Incorrect name in merged tree

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I'm a member of the Huguenot Society of South Carolina.  Several professional genealogists have worked with my family tree.  According to our research, the father of Marcus Huling (Hulings-1) is Marcus Lawrence Huling (Huling-109) and his mother is  Brigitta Gustafsdotter Danielsson formerly Danielson (Danielson-317).  I'm not sure how to correct this.

I merged Danielson-317, but now it looks like she had two husbands, which is not correct.

Please help if you can.  Thank you so much!!

-Alice

Here is my documentation from the SC Huguenot Society starting at Generation Eight (NOTE: I am Generation 1):

Generation Eight               
Brigitta (Britta) Huling                
    born c.  1716 at  Morlattan, Amity Township., Berks Co., Pa.
    died after 1792 at buried St. Gabriel’s Graveyard, Douglasville, PA                                    and_1st __ spouse  William Bird             
    born 1703/1707           at   England               
    died  16 Nov 1761         at  Birdsboro, Berks Co., Pa.; buried St. Gabriel’s                                                         
married    22 Oct 1735  at  Douglassville, Amity Twp., Berks Co., Pa.    
References: Baptism and marriage record from St. Gabriel’s Church, Morlattan, PA; Walker, J.E. Hopewell Village 366; rubbing from gravestone of William Bird; Notes from HSSC # 7498 (Williams EB 1944LF); She married 2nd in 1762 John Patton, who died 1804.Ancestral Records and Portraits Vol. II: 650-660                    
Proof of parentage for this generation:Marcus Huling’s will. Written 3/31/1757 Proved 4/25/1757 Wit: Peter Yocum, John Kerlin and Jos. Millard – Berks County area wills probated in PA before Berks Co. was formed

Generation Nine              
Marcus Hulings                                   
    born      1687         at Putshack, Waterford Township, Gloucester Co. NJ        
    died  2 Apr 1757           at Morlattan, Amity Township, Berks County, PA
    and_1st __ spouse      Margaretta Jones             
    born  c.1691             at  New Sweden, Tinicum Island, PA        
    died    c.1757            at Morlattan, Amity Township, PA                                           
    married      . 1709     at    probably PA            
References Tombstone of Marcus Huling – St. Gabriel’s Episcopal Church, Douglassville, PA; Ancestral Records an Portraits Vol. II (not documented) 652-660; Stapleton – Memorials of the Huguenots in America 44 footnote 4 (not documented)    
Proof of parentage for this generation:    Ancestral Records and Portraits
 By Colonial Dames of America. Chapter I, Baltimore, Grafton Press p. 652    

Generation Ten      Marcus Hulings                                  
    born   c. 1640/45     at   probably Sweden or DE/NJ                
    died  4 May 1689           at    Gloucester Co, NJ                            
    and_2nd _ spouse       Brigitta Danielsson            
    born  1660              at                      
    died    1685                  at   Gloucester County, NJ                     
    married                        at     possibly NJ            
References:1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613; Stapleton – Memorials of the Huguenots in America 44 footnote 4 (not documented); The names of his 1st and 3rd wives are not known. http://www.colonialswedes.org/Forefathers/Lom.html                    
Proof of parentage for this generation: 1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613    

Generation Eleven      Lars (Laurence) Hulings                                  
    born    c. 1600+       at   probably Sweden                
    died                              at     possibly NJ                            
    and_1st__ spouse    Elizabeth Portallis            
    born                     at                      
    died                              at                                                 
    married                        at                    
References:  He came with Swedish immigrants to Delaware sometime prior to 1640.  1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613; Notes from HSSC # 7498 (Williams EB 1944LF); Stapleton – Memorials of the Huguenots in America 44 footnote 4 (not documented)                    
Proof of parentage for this generation: 1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613;

Generation Twelve          [-------] Hulings                    
    born    [c. 1580]        at  probably Sweden            
    died                              at                                                                
    and___ spouse                                                
    born                     at                      
    died                              at                                                 
    married       [c. 1600]    at probably Sweden         
References: 1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613; Notes from HSSC # 7498 (Williams EB 1944LF); Stapleton – Memorials of the Huguenots in America 44 footnote 4 (not documented)                    
Proof of parentage for this generation: 1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613;)

 
Generation Thirteen    Marquis Jean Paul Frederick de Hulingues                                      
    born [c. 1550]    at      Bearn, France                
    died                       at     probably Sweden                                 
    and_1st__ spouse    Isabella de Portal             
    born                 at     France        
    died                       at     probably Sweden                       
    married  c.1572     at     Dieppe, France            
References: 1996 UPDATE of Corrections & Additions to the Register of Qualified Huguenot Ancestors of the National Huguenot Society (1995): 613; Notes from HSSC # 7498 (Williams EB 1944LF); Stapleton – Memorials of the Huguenots in America 44 footnote 4 (not documented); Proceedings of the Huguenot Society of PA, Vol. 27 (1955): 137-8;    
Proof of parentage for this generation:    n/a
WikiTree profile: Marcus Huling
in Genealogy Help by Alice Hambright G2G Rookie (280 points)
edited by Ellen Smith

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It looks like you are concerned about the name on the WikiTree profile for your Generation Ten, Marcus Hulings. His profile here is http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Laurenson-165 and the name on the profile is Marcus Laurenson.

According to notes on that profile, the WikiTree New Sweden project determined that patronymic names were in use in the time and place of his birth, and this man appears in records with names such as Markus Lourens and Marcus Laurenson. Apparently, the family adopted the surname Hulings later --  possibly in his lifetime or possibly in the life of his son. Situations like this are very common with New Netherland settlers, and I believe also in New Sweden. Many genealogies trace  families back in time using the surname the family adopted in America circa 1700 (in this instance, that would be Hulings). However, WikiTree doesn't follow that practice -- we give people the names they actually were known by. WikiTree tries to assign the LNAB based on the name the child was baptized with (or if there is no record for the baptism or birth, the name the child is inferred to have had). Based on that policy, this man's LNAB was determined to be the patronymic form Laurenson.

If there is evidence that he was known by the surname Hulings later in life, that name should be placed in the Current Last Name field. Since the Hulings name has been applied to him in genealogies, I think it needs to appear on his profile. If he didn't use the Hulings name in his lifetime, it could be added in the "Other Last Names" field.
by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Thank you.  That sounds reasonable.
According to this at: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=marcwheat&id=I00479

It is not the same Marcus Huling.  Please see below and please read above.  The wife's name is different.

Peter Stebbins Craig, F.A.S.G., The Swedish Hulings: The Colonial Descendants of Marcus Laurensen of Holstein and the Delaware River, (3406 Macomb St., N.W., Washington, DC 20016, 1996), 30, "Marcus Hulings, born c. 1739 in Amity Township, married his cousin Mary Boone, born 11 Nov. 1739, daughter of Benjamin Boone and Susannah Lykins (Laican) and widow of Samuel Patterson, and became stepfather of her two small sons, Benjamin Patterson (born 10 September 1759) and Robert Patterson (born 22 Feb. 1761). Marcus Hulings, a blacksmith, ws shown on the tax record of Greenwood Township, Cumberland County, Pa., in 1769. On 25 Sept. 1781, he purchased an island in the west branch of the Susquehanna River in White Deer Township, Northumberland County, Pa. Later the family moved to Lycoming County, Pa. Marcus and Mary (Boone) Hulings are reported to have had five children: William (twin), born c. 1775, who married Mary Chatham; Charlotte (twin), born c. 1775, died in infancy; John; Andrew Jackson, who married Betsy Morris; and Nancy, who married Philip Sipps. Marcus Hulings' widow Mary died in 1822 in Painted Post, Steuben County NY."

1790 CENSUS: "The 1790 census lists the Marcus Huling household of Northumberland County as containing two males over 16, one malue under 16 and three females. " Peter Stebbins Craig, F.A.S.G., The Swedish Hulings: The Colonial Descendants of Marcus Laurensen of Holstein and the Delaware River, (3406 Macomb St., N.W., Washington, DC 20016, 1996), 30, citing Zimmerman, Hulings of Pennsylvania, 17-20.
http://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/marcus-hulings_24419872

This is not documented from the above link, but you can see the names and dates.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25215913&ref=acom

Birth: 

  1687
Camden County
New Jersey, USA
Death:  Apr. 2, 1757
Molltown
Berks County
Pennsylvania, USA
image
Birth 1687 in Waterford, Gloucester, New Jersey, United States
Death 2 Apr 1757 in Molatton, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States 
 
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  Margaretta Jones Hulings (1691 - 1757)*
 
Inscription:
Indian Interpreter and A Man of Colonial Affairs Died Apr 2, 1757
 
Burial:
Saint Gabriels Episcopal Church Cemetery
Douglassville
Berks County
Pennsylvania, USA
It looks to me like we're talking about several different generations of the same family here. Check the birthdates!

It was I who posted the "malarkey" comment on the old GenForum, that is quoted here.  My then-colleague Peter Craig was in complete agreement.  He isn't around to argue it, but I still am, if anyone actually cares.  I don't; but I did examine the source for the Rev. Ammon Stapleton's statement about the entirely fictional "Marquis de Hulingues."  It was a professional genealogist in Baltimore, who wrote up the best genealogy money could buy for a Hulings lady who lived there.  [This was tracked down in the mid-20th century by Ray Green Huling, of an unrelated Massachusetts family.  I believe his personal papers, or those of a close relative, are in the Salisbury, NC public library's genealogical collections.]  That hired genealogist cited an 1860 book in French, Les descendants des Albigeois et des Huguenots, ou mémoires de la famille de Portal.  The Enoch Pratt Library in downtown Baltimore has the book, so I went there (in the 1980s) to check his reference.  It is bogus.  Some of the French text about the Livre d'Or, quoted in translation by that genealogist (for his client), is found in it.  But the bit about a Marquis de Hulingues (or anybody else) marrying a Portal lady and fleeing to Sweden (after the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre of French Protestants) is not.  A digital text of that book is now available online, if someone wants to check.

At least three men, from widely divergent lines of descent from Marcus Larsson, have tested YDNA, and found their 37-marker match (at FTDNA) in March, 2017.  These men (now named Hullings and Huling) are from a subclade of haplogroup I-M223, probably >CTS6433>S2364>S2361>Z78, that appears entirely at home in a Scandinavian population.  This is evident in the large I-M223 haplogroup project.  They are now represented in the FTDNA surname project for "Huling and various spellings," of which I am a co-administrator.  Further testing (with the M223 SNP pack, or NextGen sequencing) may refine their YDNA results.  But such refinement will not revive the long since discredited tale of noble French ancestry, asserted on the basis of spurious source material over a century ago by the Rev. Stapleton.

Marcus Larsson is a different person from my ancestor. It makes total sense that his descendants match him.

My genealogy is very well documented. Please contact the Huguenot Society of South Carolina and argue with their professional genealogists if you wish.

Denying truth does not make it untrue.

Now I am wondering why my family matters to you.

You obviously do care a great deal about this.
"anonymous," if you are a WikiTree member, please log in and claim your comment as yours.

I have no dog in this fight, having discovered in about 1990 that my gr-grandfather Jonathan Huling was not, in fact, from the Swedish American family.  But that was after having spent some 15 years on New Sweden research, to include study of the language (while getting my PhD in Anthropology at the U of Texas); transcription and translation of a lot of the records of the Delaware Valley Swedish community; publication of articles and book chapters, reading papers at conferences, assisting or directing museum exhibitions, etc. in connection with the 350th anniversaries of Maryland (in 1984) and of New Sweden (in 1988).

With respect to the Marcus Larsson (Hulings) descendants, Peter Craig and I were the invited speakers at a conference of such descendants in 1990; we drove to western PA and back in my car.  I have the list of attendees, presumably "your family," but not mine.  That was almost the last thing we did together without getting angry, so Peter and I went our separate ways, and others did most of the Wicaco church record translations for him.  However, my name and my academic credentials (which he did not have, he was an attorney with a law degree from Yale) were on the successful grant application that initiated that long project.

One other thing that we actually got out the door without coming to blows was an article in the Delaware Valley issue of Lutheran Quarterly (Winter, 1996).  https://timeline.press.jhu.edu/lut/1988-1996/1996/delaware-table-contents  I mention that one specifically because Pastor Wrangel visited the Birds and Hulings who are your ancestors, and Peter supplied thorough genealogical footnotes for the article.

This was several years after the same journal had published its New Sweden issue/book, in which I had authored two chapters and the accompanying map.  https://timeline.press.jhu.edu/lut/1988-1996/1988/church-new-sweden-1638-1988

I was also well acquainted with Vivian Bird Fryar, of one branch of your family that moved to the Carolinas.  We corresponded for years, and I visited her in Ft. Davis, TX in about 1979, anyway while we lived in Austin.  She had some artifacts from Mark Bird's last iron foundry.

So, kindly cut me some slack.  What interests me is getting this "merged" WikiTree entry right; and neither the late Rev. Stapleton nor the Huguenot Society of South Carolina are helpful toward that goal.

During the winter holiday sale one member of the New Sweden Hulings lineage ordered the BigY test.  Those results have now posted.  In our surname project, the New Sweden group's caption has been updated to reflect much more specific branching below YDNA haplogroup I-M223.  The "terminal" SNP at the moment is I-Z165.  Subsequent matching in the FTDNA database (or at YFull, FGC, or elsewhere) may refine that terminal SNP considerably.  This is the new caption:  New Sweden Hulings, I-Z165+ (I-M223>CTS616>CTS10057>Z189/Z161>L801>Z165)

And this is the surname project:  https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hul_n_

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