Allow me to introduce you to the Threedot family ...

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First, I would like to introduce Peter ... Those 3 dots are not an ellipsis - they are Peter's LNAB!!!  If Peter had parents or siblings, we don't know anything about them.  Neither do we know the dates or places of Peter's birth, marriage, or death, but he and his wife had four children - Castor, Emma, Mathilda, and Peter.  None of the children have any dates or places associated with their lives, nor do we know anything about whether they married and/or carried on the ... family line.

I find the "..." a rather novel variant of what should be "Unknown", but it may surprise you to know that there are 194 WikiTree profiles with that surname.  Three of them even have the same first name!

OK - enough tongue-in-cheek commentary - what should we do about all the members of the 3-dot family line?  Peter and his children were entered in 2011 by a profile manager whose last contribution was the same year.  There are several profile managers of the 3-dot profiles and most of these profiles have red or green privacy and were entered between 2009 and 2013 and not touched since they were created.

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Ah but Peter (...)'s wife Grith Henricks has a family, her parents were married 1867 in Lütz (Mosel).

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Yes, I can easily understand why she didn't assume her husband's last name when she married.

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oh my goodness, that one is like popcorn shooting off in my head !

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Maggie, after you catch and eat all that popcorn, you should be well enough fortified to take a chance on looking at the list of all the 3-dot surnames.  I was thinking of you as a possible paramedic for some of these profiles when I saw that list because several of them look like they might be Hungarian.  Please forgive me if I'm wrong about those names - I'm not too knowledgeable about the language even though my mother's family was Hungarian.  I suppose it could be some other Slavic language.

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But are there any .... four dot families that could be distant cousins?  And any .. 's that might fit in.

Wow, I wonder if there is a way to help with these.  Should we just jump in or will someone suggest ways to help out.

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I've always been fond of the Dot Variants, my personal favorite being Dot to Dot which was first employed as a means of communication between Aunt Dorothy and the young moi. Later, my Mother-in-law Dorothy and I found it to be effective shorthand. However…

Seriously folks, Gaile is correct. There are far too many Dots in this-here Wikitree. Shall we take a shotgun approach and eliminate the …s when we find them or would a global change be more effective? With the latter, we could wake up one morning to find the Tree newly populated with the Unknown family, but at least the Dots would have been removed permanently. (Rather like vaccinating for measles, I suppose.)

I anxiously await your direction before I proceed...

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After looking at Peter's wife Girth's profile it would seem that at least she was German and born in the 1700's but I find no conclusive sources on familysearch.org, but a couple were close enough to be possibilities, so I would try to find something on them and establish dates so that you can file an open profile request.  With the privacy settings the way they are without getting the profiles opened we can't do anything anyway.

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If we could get access to the profiles, my inclination would be to edit the wife's and mention the first names of her husband and 4 children.  After that, we could just disconnect those 5 profiles and recycle them.  What's the point of having them when they're not holding any information?

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That is assuming that we do not uncover information about them when we find out about the wife.  They will have to be merged into something even then but I think if we can find a LNAB for them it would be better.

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Did anyone notice the three  "... ..." profiles on the "...'' surname list? They are set to Private. Should anything be done regarding those? Perhaps a note to the profile manager?

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Just a little help to find sources http://www.tholeisterhof.de/loescher1.html Just parents of Grith. Grith is an uncomen first name in Germany I think.

Quellen:

• Abschrift aus den Pfarrbüchern des Kathol. Pfarramt Lütz (Mosel)
• Pies, Eike: Die ältesten Kirchenbücher der Pfarrei Lütz mit Dommershausen, Eveshausen, Lahr, Lieg, Zilshausen und dem Petershäuserhof
• Theisen, Richard; Hansen, Helmut: Familienbuch der Pfarrei St. Lucia Mastershausen

http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/database/1411 and http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/141147

 

 

Ahahaha and this must be family ;) Even a ... Heinrich on FamilySearch http://prntscr.com/8jocyj

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Peter Pies? http://www.gedbas.de/person/show/1160779624

Margaretha- shortened to Grete, Gretchen oder Grit.

Hmm born too early...... or?

Search on Luetz:

http://www.gedbas.de/search/simple?placename=L%C3%BCtz%2C+Cochem-Zell%2C+Rheinland-Pfalz%2C+Deutschland