My Brickwall - Thomas Craven (Creaven)

Question

 

This is my Great-Grandpa, not many people can help me figure out anything. My Grandma (his daughter) and all the children were put in to foster care in Ontario in the 1930s when the mother Mabel just took off and the Ontario gov would not let Thomas take the kids back to his family in Ireland or raise them himself. As a result, all the siblings were put in to foster care (My Grandma was the oldest) and did not meet again until they were adults and found each other. The fact that I was able to find the military record, or even the city he was born has delighted my Dad and other family members, as I am the family genealogist on this branch. I was also able to track down the marriage location and am in the process of ordering a copy of Thomas and Mabel's marriage certificate.  Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

 

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Answer 1

There is a Mabel on a couple of ancestor.com trees

Mabel Lilian Williamson
Birth:  dd mm 1898 - Nottinghamshire
 

F:	John Williamson
M:	Mary Elizabeth Marriott

Answer 2

 

Thomas Craven

mentioned in the record of Eva Ellen Craven

Name	Thomas Craven
Gender	Male
Wife	Mabel Lillian Williamson
Daughter	Eva Ellen Craven

Other information in the record of Eva Ellen Craven

from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name	Eva Ellen Craven
Event Type	Death
Event Date	09 Oct 1928
Event Place	Sifton
Gender	Female
Age	0
Birth Date	30 Jul 1928
Birthplace	Rainy River
Father's Name	Thomas Craven
Mother's Name	Mabel Lillian Williamson

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKH8-NXJ : accessed 21 August 2015), Thomas Craven in entry for Eva Ellen Craven, 09 Oct 1928; citing Sifton, 30008, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 2,184,484.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.

Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Reference ID	30008
GS Film number	2184484
Digital Folder Number	4000412
Image Number	00110

 

Comments

Are you sure that is Sifton where she died and not Stratton? Sifton is on the other side of the province and it states that she was born in Rainy River. Stratton is/was a township located within Rainy River district that her younger sister (My Grandma) was born.

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She could have been staying with someone or visiting someone when she died.

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No, I looked at the link you provided (which was the wrong person) and went to the next page and it did say Stratton for burial. Also, I found out where my great grandma was born! Thanks so much :)

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I notice she was born in July and died in Oct of that same year. Maybe they were somewhere visiting when she died?

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Maybe they traveled to see a doctor?

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But it says she was buried in Stratton the next day. How could they travel  1,557 km in under 24 hours in 1928? I also noticed an error in the way she died. 'brononitis' means 'bronchitis' , yes?

 

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Craven-748

Answer 3

 

Thomas Gibson Craven

Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name	Thomas Gibson Craven
Event Type	Death
Event Date	04 Jan 1894
Event Place	Mcgillivray, Middlesex, Ontario
Gender	Male
Age	3
Birthplace	Mc Gillivray Tp.
Birth Year (Estimated)	1891

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6M3-S2C : accessed 21 August 2015), Thomas Gibson Craven, 04 Jan 1894; citing Mcgillivray, Middlesex, Ontario, yr 1894 cn 10628, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,853,583.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.

Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Reference ID	yr 1894 cn 10628
GS Film number	1853583
Digital Folder Number	4172066
Image Number	302

 

Comments

I am not sure about the 1st comment. The 2nd would be mine! Thank you my Dad and Grandma didn't even know about Eva! The 3rd one is not ours as ours came to Canada after 1907.

Answer 4

His birth registration: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBDC-26Y

Comments

Wow! I wish an image was available. Thank you so much Ron!!