Need help with my 20+ years Phillips brickwall.

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For over 20 years my 3rd great grandfather has been a massive brick wall, Aaron Phillips 1801-1889, Phillips-19955. I have twice hired professionals from NEHGS with not much luck on anything concrete. (See Research Notes on his profileI

I see soooooo many Phillips on my Wiki feed and yet none seem to connect to my line. My dad had his DNA tested through Family Tree in 2007 and he was placed in Family Group 19 which showed a common ancestor named William Phillips back in the 1700's I think. I can't even find that info anymore, Family Tree has changed since dad took the test. I am updating his tree info on FT in the meantime.

NEHGS found one "probable" father for Aaron, but I don't like "probable"...I much prefer positive. I checked the probable father's history and can't seem to find any Aaron in it that matches mine.

Aaron married Tryphena Chapin Chapin-522, daughter of Gordon Chapin Chapin-513. (See the Research Notes on her profile). No primary marriage record has ever been located. Nor has a primary birth record been found for Aaron. Nothing that gives his parents names. His birth place varies between New Hampshire and Vermont.

One interesting note: Lewis Latham 1584-1655, my 12th great grandfather looks eerily just like Aaron and my dad. Google him.

So if NEGHS couldn't find any solid info, what should I do now?

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Whoops, yes Gordon. Just updated Tryphena's sister's profile. Now shows her married name and info. So Bates was Alexanders Aunt, mixup of name solved I think

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Ok, it's Gordon. I followed the Bates line from his FAG and it was pretty much a dead end. I will have to search Tryphena Bates...I have a small hunch she was another of many in the time period to be given that name. And Aaron Phillips was another fairly common name. Thank for all these links too, quite helpful!

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Gordon Chapin in the FAG is Tryphena's dad. Sarah Chapin Bates is Tryphena Chapin Phillips sister.

Sorry, didn't mean to overwhelm! Your welcome on the links!!

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There is a hint on the FAG entry for Charles W. Chapin (Tryphena's brother). He was born in London District, Ontario in 1821 and baptized in the Freewill Baptist Church. To find a record for Tryphena and Aaron I would start with the London District area and you could ask the Church to do a lookup for the record. 

Ran a google search - found this https://webresources.oxfordcounty.ca/umbraco/documents/history/pioneer_baptist_work_Oxford_County_OCR.pdf

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AHA! Good work Lorraine and TYVM for solving that problem! Now it makes more sense.

I have been updating Alex's Wiki profile and came across something odd. His 2nd wife, Hattie (Wright) Howard. Her FAG page shows a newspaper clipping of an obit for Hattie Jewel Howard. The obit doesn't mention any husbands but her profile lists her first husband, Ara Chester Howard, and her second husband as Alexander Phillips. Her first husband died in 1895, she married Alex in 1899. Wouldn't/shouldn't her last name at death have been Phillips? Now I'm all confused again.....more research on the way.

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A quick glance says that the ducks are not lining up. But newspapers and Find A Grave are very suspect sources. Hattie had kids with Asa Howard, don't believe she had any with Alexander. Family submit Obits (and Death registrations) so assuming that the kids did it they likely used the Howard name for her.  Its not wrong just missing the details of her second marriage. It did say she had 4 step children which of course must be Alexanders kids with Eve. The middle name of Jewel is most likely a newspaper mistake.

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I see the middle name of "Jewel" is on her death registration. It was her daughter who submitted the info for the death, she prolly did the Obit as well. Have to put this one as odd, right up there with Tryphena "Bates". Sometimes family give incorrect info.

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Hi Lorraine, I have finished updating Alexander's profile, Phillips-41044. That was a chore! At least now there is a start for his wives and children. Thank you so much for all your help!!

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Yes, I don't often trust FAG unless I personally knew the person and I have found many errors on Newspapers.com. This one was a toughie but I think, with a lot of your help, we have it pretty well straightened out. Thanks again!

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Your Welcome! I don't feel like I did much, rattled a few boxes maybe lol! Aaron remains a bit of a mystery, hope you break that wall some day!

Answer 1

Here is something to go through. This genealogical study on the Phillips familes in Ontario was done by H.C. Burleigh. The Accrual (first and second) are held at Queens University and the images are hosted by Internet Archive (https://archives.queensu.ca/collections/genealogy/dr-hc-burleigh-fonds#P )

 H.C. Burleigh Fonds -First Accrual-Phillips https://archive.org/details/hcbphillips/mode/1up

Answer 2

Julie Im not able to view your ancestry sources. Here is a wikitree help page on using Ancestry Sharing Links. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Links_to_Ancestry#Sharing_Link

And here is how to put it into a citation ;

*"Marriage Registration," Ancestry.com,<br>Ancestry [https://www.ancestry.ca/sharing/13068286?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a2270304c4d436648427335536376414b55376c316a45634d2b70686e4246573438726b715049316c4851706f3d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d Sharing Link], accessed 22 Apr 2024,<br> London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1931, Middlesex, Tower Hamlets, 1862, p. [not provided], no. [not provided[, entry for Stephen Barker and Emma Bartholomew, image no. 23 of 45

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Also see this https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Sharing-an-Ancestry-Record?language=en_US