Please remove blackface cameo stamp which states my ancestor belongs 2 black history.

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RE:  Amedee Ceite Frilot --Please confirm via  his death certificate. It's  posted on his Wiki page-   that Amedee Ceite Frilot; B. 1858 died 1922 in Los Angeles CA.  The certificate states he is Caucasion.  As a  member of  his family, I know he is  French-Caucasion, specifically.    Please remove the blackface cameo,  Please correct by removing the stamp he is a member of  black history, he isn't.  Please let it be known he is French-Caucasian.  I'd appreciate your help immensely as this is the second time I have made this request.  Thanks.
WikiTree profile: Amedee Frilot
in WikiTree Tech by Anonymous Marshall G2G Rookie (280 points)
He was Mulatto in 1870 and 1880, Black in 1900, Mulatto in 1910, and white in 1920.
I'd say the sticker was correctly placed no matter what the death certificate says as such information is only as correct as the knowledge of the informant.
DNA testing would be interesting?
One point of clarification: the silhouette that displays with the African-American Sticker is not blackface.

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The 1880, 1900 and 1910 census records for Amedee Frilot and his family identify them all as mixed race. The 1870 and 1880 census records for his father Prospère Frilot and family also identify them as mixed race. 

Prospère's father François and paternal grandmother, Rosette Boutte, are identified as mixed race in 1850. There are no obvious census records for Prospère's paternal grandfather, Claude, but it appears that both his parents were born in France, so I would guess that neither was mixed race. Prospère's mother and maternal grandmother are identified as white in 1850. You can dig back through the records for Amedee's mother Adeline in a similar way, but in 1850 both her parents are mixed race.

It is not until 1920, when Amedee moved his family to Los Angeles, that we start seeing them identify as white. Although he died in 1922, his family are identified as white on the 1930 and 1940 censuses, as well.

I've seen this same pattern in my own family history, where a family changes how they identify when they move. How mixed race people were identified in historic records has a lot to do with how others perceived them, maybe who they marry and how that effects both cultural identity and labeling, and so on. Of course, racism is also a huge factor and many mixed race families would "pass" for white if they could to avoid segregation, discrimination, etc.

The bottom line of all that is that it isn't wrong to say that Amedee is part of U.S. Black heritage—and it's not completely correct to say he was just white or caucasian either. And the family was also Creole, Cajun, Free People of Color and possibly other things!

by Regan Conley G2G6 Mach 4 (48.0k points)
selected by Cindy Van Dam
+30 votes

Did you read from the comment posted in response to your request on the profile. Victoria Fachner posted "I added sources from free sites so you can look at all the sources together. Every source that lists race, shows him as black or mulatto. Then in the 1920 census he's listed as white, as he is on his death certificate. Both of his parents are listed as mulatto on both the 1870 and 1880 Census. I hope this is helpful to you."

Additionally his mother was listed as "free quadroon" when baptized.

by Nancy Thomas G2G6 Pilot (210k points)

As mentioned abover, here is the baptism extract for his mother, indicating that she was 1/4 Black:

  • FRILOT, Adele - quarteronne libre (Antoine & Adele OLIVIER - gens de couleur libres) b. 15 April 1831, bt. 12 Nov. 1832 Pats: Claude FRILOT & Rosette BOUTTE; Mats: Magdelaine LACOSTE; Spons: Cazimire OLIVIER & Josette OLIVIER - gens de couleur libre. Fr. Marcel BORELLA (SM Ch.: v.8, #367)
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All of this categorization that is being applied to profiles just to get a 1000 contributions badge needs to stop.  People are rushing to add categories without any sources or thought of what they are doing.
by Kevin Conroy G2G6 Pilot (253k points)

I would encourage you to learn about the work the US Black Heritage Project is doing. The categories and sources added are most certainly not because project members are trying to get any kind of contribution badge. 

Hi Kevin, which profiles have categories added without sources? As far as I can see, all these profiles in question are sourced.
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Hi Anonymous, I am a project leader for the US Black Heritage Project. Please see our goals on our home page. One of our goals is to honor the Black (African) heritage of all people who lived in the USA since the beginning of the country, no matter what "percent" of heritage that might be. The sticker we use is a visual way to honor that heritage. Much of America's Black heritage has been lost in family trees due to racism.

First off, your use of the term blackface is extremely offensive. That term is used when a white person colors their face to look Black and mock the Black community. 

Please look at all the sources on all the profiles in relation to Amedee (See Regan's more thorough reply). It was very common for race to be subjectively written down on records based on whatever the person writing it down felt like writing (we often see the same people of color marked as Black, white, and mulatto on a variety of records). It was also common for people to pass as white, especially when they were mixed race, because everything was very complicated for them. 

Please see Amedee's mother's sources, her grandparent's sources and so on where the Black heritage is clearly documented. WikiTree will not be erasing anyone's Black heritage to make anyone feel more comfortable.

by Emma MacBeath G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
edited by Emma MacBeath
+33 votes
As a descendant of Amedée's father Prospere (through his second wife, Anna Jane Clarke) and also the person who created the profile and did the original research on this family on Wikitree, I can confirm that all members of the Frilot family (as opposed to Friloux) are of mixed ethnicity that includes Sub-Saharan African DNA. Others have cited the pertinent records, but I can also substantiate that a grandchild of Prospere had 12% Sub-Saharan African DNA, a great-grandchild had 6%, and a 2G grandchild has 3%. I can confirm that I've identified the source of that DNA contribution as the Frilot line through other testing. Descendants of Amedée may likely have a higher proportion of Sub-Saharan African DNA, as Prospere's first wife (Amedee's mother) was also a Frilot.
by Sevy Kueber G2G6 (7.4k points)
Thank you so much for commenting, Sevy, and sharing your DNA information. I saw that you originally added these family profiles to WikiTree.

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