Connection Finder - where is the blood relation option ?

Question

I have just been listening to the BBC podcast :

Who Do You Really Think You Are? by Dr Adam Ruthford

-  where he thinks he can prove that everyone in the UK today with an ancestry dating back to the 1600's in the UK

are descended from Royalty, in particular

Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312 - 1377) - Edward III "King of England"

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Plantagenet-70

- so i did the usual of trying the 'connection finder' but it finds the closest link and it took me some time by clicking on the crosses until i came to the page which shows all green - a blood descendant.

My question is - there must be a shortcut which i haven't used before - which takes me directly to the blood only relationships to the person at the other end of the 'connection finder' - where is that option ?

Answer 1

Hello Allan,

on the Connection Finder page you have two possibilities:

1. There are 5 Tabs. The fifth is Relationship Finder. Click there and enter the Profile ID.
2. Below the Find Connection button there is a Relationship Finder Link. Click there and you get the same Page pre-filled with the Profile ID from the Connection Finder.

The presentation is different from the Connection Finder. But it shows the blood relation. You can use some options to change the result.

Comments

Hello Siegfried,

Thank you for the reply.

it says :-

We could not find a blood relationship between Allan Entwistle and Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377).

and yet by using 'Connection Finder' and clicking on the crosses - i found one

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The Connection Finder is NOT blood relatives, it's connections through marriages and siblings.  The Relationship Finder is people you are actually related to.

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Hello Kathie,

Thank you for the reply.

I have uploaded an image from the 'connection finder'

https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/7/75/Find_my_Past_images-3.jpg

- i am not that bothered about the actual linkage more about the technique of arriving at it.

I thought that there must be a shortcut to arriving at a 'blood relationship' between any two profiles rather than using 'connection finder' and clicking on the crosses.

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Don't forget that not everybody in the world yet has a profile.  So your missing link may be missing because there aren't profiles - yet - for all the generations.

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Hello Allan, can you reconstruct your connection and give us the complete link from the broesers address bar?

I 've seen a partial connection of the Connection Finder as blood relation via A and her son B and his sister C. I was a bit astonished, but C was not the daughter of A, only the daughter of B's father. Maybe the Relationship Finder would have problems with siblings or half siblings.

Another question would be, how adoptive connections are handled.

Edit: Ahh, your image came in the same time … There are also sibling steps, which can have problems …

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So George Spruce is a blood relation of Joseph Spruce because they have the same mother.

And Joseph Spruce is a blood relation of Joseph Clinton Robertson because Joseph Spruce is deemed to be the son of Joseph C. Robertson,

but George Spruce and Joseph C. Robertson are not blood related...  interesting.

Answer 2

Just go to the "Find" menu at top right, scroll down to "Relationships" and that will take you directly to the Relationship Finder which shows people who are your blood relatives (at least according to the tree that has been built here).

Answer 3

Hello Allan,

I played a bit with the profiles in your image …

From 0 You to 7 Mary Spruce is up in blood relationship. No problem.

8 John Spruce is the brother. – Hmm. But 7 and 8 have the same parents. No problem.

11 Joseph Spruce is brother of 10, but not son of 9. For the connection you need the common mother of 11 and 10. But she has no blood relationship to 0 You. The chain is broken.

The connection Finder keeps the color if the next step is a blood relationship. But thats not enough for the start to end blood relationship.

For example: If you have a couple. They are not blood related. Then they get a child together. Each one is blood related to the child. But they stil are not blood related.

Edit for you: Take the Connection Finder and enter your grandparents Entwistle-630 and Warburton-1266. You get a green-yellow connection. And then find the option "Connection through a common descendant" below "Find Connection". Use it and Find the connection again. You get a complete green connection via their common son, your father.