Have you seen the new WikiTree button on Find A Grave?

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EDITED:
The WikiTree BEE extension (not Find A Grave) recently added a new feature to the Find A Grave website. When a WikiTree profile includes a link to that memorial, the Find A Grave memorial includes a new button that links to the WikiTree profile. The new WikiTree button is located to the right of the Edit button on the Find A Grave memorial. You will see it only if you are using the BEE extension and have it enabled in your browser.

I'm excited about this new button because it:

1. Will alert WikiTree members who visit Find A Grave when that citation needs to be added to a profile, or a new profile needs to be created.
2. Should encourage clean-up of incorrect Find A Grave links in WikiTree, though it does not appear that buttons link to incorrect profiles.

Check out this new feature on my Dad's Find A Grave memorial (Glen Kline) or next time you visit Find A Grave. Be sure to add the WikiTree BEE if you have not yet done that.

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I'm not seeing this new feature, Star, either on profiles where I have linked to Find A Grave or on your dad's memorial.  It appears that you may be a logged in member, so I'm wondering if this is currently only visible to Find a Grave members and if you had to do anything to activate it?  It would be great if they went public with it.   Does it mean that Ancestry is actually crawling WikiTree profiles looking for these links?

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Flo made a change to BEE extension that is adding the Wikitree button on Find a Grave pages.  The Source Extension also has the Find a Grave template formatted.

BUT, I think, these are only seen by Wikitree members that have the BEE extension in use.

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Hmm, I have BEE installed.  Is there something that must be enabled to make it work that I am possibly missing?  I don't see any setting for a link on Find A Grave.

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Dennis, an icon of a little gold bee should display to the right of your search bar in your browser (if you use Windows - I don't know what it looks like on a Mac). If this icon is grayed out, you need to enable it on your browser. Lester McClain Barton has the new button.

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Here's what I'm seeing.  I'm using Firefox 123.0 on current Windows 11.  I have BEE installed and enabled (and a bunch of tabs open).  BEE is active for the WikiTree, Find A Grave, and Family Search tabs, but it's grayed out for other tabs (that are not genealogy related).  If I go to my father's or Star's father's Find A Grave memorial, I don't see any link on the memorial page, but if I then click on the BEE icon, I get a new popup window that shows the Find A Grave source citation, birth, death, and burial data, a couple of other things, and a line labeled "MergeEdit (WikiTreeID)," followed by a box showing the person's WikiTree ID and a link labeled "Go."  That link then takes me to the WikiTree profile.

If there's something more straightforward, I'm not finding it.  If what I'm seeing tracks with everybody else's experience, I think it might be beneficial to fill in a few more details in the instructions.

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Dennis. I just checked at Barton-1129 and it works. Maybe the update of BEE didn't go through. I experienced that at some installations before. Try uninstalling the addon and reinstalling it from the store. You can also check the date. It should show 3 March 2024 or later.

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OK, done.  My version of BEE was dated 20 Dec 2023, even though automatic updating is enabled.  Now I have reinstalled, and have Version 32.14.14, and I'm still seeing exactly the same thing I described before.  If that's not the expected response, can you please explain what I should be seeing instead?  I'm not saying it doesn't work, but no link automatically appears on the Find A Grave memorial, I do have to click on the BEE icon in the search bar in order to get the popup window with the link displayed.

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At the memorial page there are brown buttons "Share", "Save to" and "Suggested Edits". If it works, there should be another button stating "WikiTree".

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Ah yes, OK, success!!  The button is there, and the popup window still appears if I click BEE.  Thanks!

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The button also appears on Cemetery pages

Answer 1

Yes, that was me. Sorry for the confusion. In case you didn't notice: the cemetery pages also have a link to the cemetery category at WikiTree. For a few months it also shows links to a map and a query at Open Street Map, where you can see and read in which borders the cemetery is located as well as a link to WikiTree Maps.

Also Wikipedia's tools menu will show links to profiles, free space pages and categories, if they are added at Wikidata. Check out this video of Gelbi and Lola demonstrating it.

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I see the button on the cemetery page, but it is popping up a message that says:

• www.findagrave.com says https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Greenwood%20Cemetery,%20Jennings,%20Louisiana

with an OK button to dismiss the popup message. Is there a way to make that popup message not be seen?

Also, some of the data that is displayed on the page is now on top of the popup ad at the bottom of the viewable window when the page is scrolled down/up depending on how you interpret what down/up is.

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I see the same popup message on the Find a Grave cemetery page, and when I dismiss it the WikiTree button appears, which links to the WikiTree cemetery, which is great. Can we get rid of the popup?

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I'm sorry for the popup it's a relic from development. It is removed in v.32.14.15, which is available for a few hours already.

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Thanks, it's fine now. Great work, Florian!

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Thank you, Florian! I was so excited when I saw the new button in Find A Grave, and inadvertently caused confusion when I gave that website credit for creating the new button. I really appreciate the work that you do in WikiTree BEE.

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Could someone please post a screenshot of what we are supposed to be seeing? I have BEE installed and it says it has access to Find A Grave but I am not seeing a wikitree button.

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You need to be on a memorial that is linked from a WikiTree profile or on a cemetery, that has a category on WikiTree with the ID from Find a Grave

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i am aware of that. I went to the memorial (which has a profile) linked above. Could someone please, please share a screengrab so that we know what we are supposed to see?

Answer 2

Hi Star,

I don't see a button on either the edit page or the memorial page when signed in or not.

I looked at your dad's page and several other memorials that I have linked to WT profiles.

Any suggestions for finding the button?

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I edited my post - the button is created by the WikiTree BEE extension, not Find A Grave. You will need to enable that extension in your browser to see the buttons.

Answer 3

Dear Star,

    I don't see a WikiTree button on your father's memorial.  First, I went to his page and saw nothing about WikiTree.  Then, I signed in to Find-a-Grave so I could see the 'transcribe photos', 'photo requests', and 'suggested edits' icons on the top right side.  

   Still do not see anything about WikiTree.  Is it possible you have some advanced access?  I do not create memorials there, but have a membership.  What do you think?  -NGP

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Nanette, I edited my post - the button is created by the WikiTree BEE extension, not Find A Grave. You will need to enable that extension in your browser to see the buttons in Find A Grave.

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I see the WIKITREE button using the Chrome browser on macOS.  The button is to the right of the SUGGEST EDITS button.

You must have the WikiTree BEE extension (version 32.14.14) installed and on in order to see it.

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I don't have the WikiTree BEE extension installed but it will be soon.  I am encouraged to see the progress to begin to acknowledge that Find A Grave can also be a good site that can be used here.

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Kevin, you should definitely install WikiTree BEE and enable it in your browser. I see the button on your Dad's memorial: Robert Harlow Conroy.

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Kevin, FG is only good when it has sources, and should normally not be used as the sole source on a profile in my opinion.  And it is considered as NOT reliable pre-1700.

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I said CAN ALSO, I didn't say anything about being an only source.  Some people here are quick to criticize anything to do with Find A Grave and I find this offensive.

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I see the button for WikiTree and it is a live link back to the profile on WT. I will try it on one of my profiles and see if it works for me. This is really cool!!

Edit to add: The link is appearing on all of my ancestors that have the FindAGrave source/link posted on them.

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I see it on the memorial page for Dallas Floyd Butter.

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Yes, and on many of my other ancestors! Not sure why others are not seeing it  but maybe it will eventually populate all the profiles here the FindAGrave link already is posted.

Answer 6

I think the button is only visible if the WikITree profile uses the source provided by Find A Grave. I can view it on profiles that use the Find A Grave citation, but not those sporting a citation created with the WikiTree Sourcer.

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Maybe that's not it. I just added the citation from WikiBee and the button still didn't show up on a memorial, although it shows up on the parents. I'm going to wait an hour or so and recheck.

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Still no button. Maybe tomorrow.

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Hi cousin! The button relies on WikiTree+ data, which is usually based on the status of a moment on Saturday and updated around Wednesday. Try a profile that already had the link for a longer time.

Also make sure your BEE is dated at least 3 March 2024. If it isn't. Remove and reinstall.

Answer 7

Update - Issue Resolved, thanks everyone!

This looks like a cool thing, if only I could find it?? I installed the WBE some time ago, and understood it would auto update changes as they came along. I used to be able to go to the features page to customize things, but I don't seem to have any way of getting in there now. At least I couldn't find it, have scoured the WBE info page but no link that I could find.  I don't have an icon in my toolbar anymore for some reason. Im using Edge and Windows 11. Help?

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Hi Lorraine.  I think you'll need to install BEE in addition to WBE, and you should find it there.  I have never tried this with Edge. so I'm not sure what that'll look like or how it will behave.  Good luck!.

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Dennis, I went to the BEE app and on that page is clear instructions Not to Install BEE as features of that app are being migrated to WBE and disabled on BEE as that happens.

Im also wondering why my WBE Icon has disappeared from my toolbar, and why I can't seem to find any way either to reinstall WBE, somehow reinstall the missing icon... or find a link to the WBE Features list to enable BEE.

Signed -Frustrated and Confused

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Hmm, sorry Lorraine, but you're above my pay grade with all that.  Perhaps try sending a note to Ian asking for advice?

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Dennis, I have probably misread some stuff, reread everything. I guess I need both the WBE and BEE. It does say to install WBE on the BEE page, and then talks about some BEE features being moved to WBE. Had me thinking BEE was not going to be used in the future. I will try to install BEE and see if that gets me anywhere

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Sorry for my befuddled state - Ian Who??

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I wont need to talk to Ian, I got it working. For anyone using Edge the Chrome edition of BEE will work. I can't believe I just spent two hours fighting with my computer bleh! 

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Ian Beacall, President of BEE Republic and Guardian of the WBE realm.

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Thanks Florian, no need...I got it working.

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Congratulations Lorraine!

Answer 8

Okay.  I installed WikiBee and enabled it in Chrome, which is my web browser.  I see the button when I go to an ancestor's memorial on FindAGrave, but I don't see what the big deal it.  Nothing different.  What exactly am I looking for?  I understand that I can create a link to this memorial using the WikiBee extension.  Check,Done.  That is nice.  I like WikiBee and think it will be useful, especially for my research.  But what's the big deal at FindAGrave?  I do not see either of these things happening: 

1. Will alert WikiTree members who visit Find A Grave when that citation needs to be added to a profile, or a new profile needs to be created.
2. Should encourage clean-up of incorrect Find A Grave links in WikiTree, though it does not appear that buttons link to incorrect profiles.

I am probably being dense.  Could you please be more explicit?  Am I looking for a button in FindAGrave, or simply the little Bee in my extensions (that is, yes, showing up yellow--but so what?  What am I looking do to?  What is so special about this? How does it alert me to anything?

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As to no. 1, if you visit a Find A Grave memorial and don't see this new WT button there, it tells you that either there's no WT profile for this person, or there's an existing profile that's missing a link to this memorial. In either case, there's an opportunity to do some good in WikiTree.

Answer 9

I purposely elected to put my family tree on WikiTree to somewhat isolate it from Ancestry and its growing monopoly of genealogy web site ownerships, and from its members that sometimes "borrow" my hard earned research to increase Ancestry's game of who has posted more entries.  Thus my concern about an enhanced WikiTree connection to Ancestry's Find-a-Grave site.  Sounds like there's already been one, but why enhance it ?