Question of the Week: Have you found any feuds in your family tree?

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Have you found any family feuds in your family history or genealogical research?

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in The Tree House by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (2.5m points)
I wouldn't call them feuds exactly but disagreements over actual names, origins, etc.  One of my great grandfathers was names Thomas James Wormuth but he went by James.  We still haven't agreed on the order of his first and middle names but I generally ignore those who think it was James Thomas.  The disagreement helped me learn that, beginning about his generation, most of my ancestors didn't read or write so they didn't write their own name, so how they thought of and called themselves is, more or less, lost in time.  

Disagreements about Native ancestry which my and my father's tests negate.

Disagreements about spellings of surnames which, again, are almost irrelevant because most ancestors couldn't write their own names
My maternal 3rd Great Grandfather Samuel Maxwell from Putnam County TN had 4 sons. Two sons fought for the South while another fought for the North. Alexander Jackson Maxwell was a spy for the South, his spying resulted in the death of some of his Northern sympathizers relatives and they got word to him that he’d better not come home after the war or he’d be killed.. He came home anyway and 6 of his relatives bushwhacked and.killed him.  This incident was the beginning of a long Feud between relatives.
Hi, iam A Mercer, Thomas was my Grandfather,and MC Coy" s from Ireland are my family, Other wise only thing els would been resin I have Nobles and allied families of the browns Maxwell Campbell ECT, way to interesting clan seeing how each set of grandparents has own stories thank you Kim

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Yes and it was The Hatfield and McCoy Feud of the 1880's and 1890's.

My 3x Great-Grandparents were Preston Head and Malinda (Hatfield) Head. Malinda's parents were my. 4x Great-Grandparents John Wiley Hatfield and Matilda (Helm) Hatfield.

https://hatfieldmccoyfoundation.org/the-hatfields-mccoys/
by Chuck Sinclair G2G6 (9.5k points)
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This is a 1934 photo of my great grandfather, Alvin Porter Long, taken with his twelve children. He left a will in 1940 that left his farmland to be divided amongst his six boys, and nothing was left to his six girls. One of the brothers had remained on the farm, Ray Alvin Long.

The feud began with the five of the six sisters wanting half of each brother's share of the land. Only my grandmother Nellie did not want to change the will. I often heard her say, "Pa wanted only the boys to have the farm." 

This feud continued throughout my childhood, and it was only after several years that each of the five girls paired with a brother. My grandmother paired with Ray and did not take any money when the farm finally sold. Ray's children loved my grandmother, and his two daughters spent a great deal of time visiting her.

by Alexis Nelson G2G6 Pilot (857k points)
Why yes. Of course. The most memorial one took place was over money. The family is just now start to each other. A few members aren't.   I won't name any names but it happened at a funeral home. When my one Uncle told the Uncle "The only good thing about mom dying is that don't have to see your face again." He didn't just ay it he yelled it for everyone to hear.

Later on I went up to him and told him Thank you for that because I felt the same way to, I think he felt bad, because the next day he apologized to him.  To this day they don't speak to each other. Only when they have to.

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On the other side of the family is the other fued. When Aunt Wilsie got sick her she needed to go to a nursing home. Her son wanted my dad to help pay for the cost. My dad said he couldn't do it because he didn't have that kind of money. Her son got mad at him and refused to talk to him.

When my dad drove to North Carolina to visit his sister he stopped to visit her son. he would not answer the door or return any phone calls. Even though they knew he was home.

 A few years later my dad went to visit his other sister who was living near us at the time. She started to yell at him asking him why did you tell me Wilsie was died.  He said to her "What do you mean Wilsie is dead?"  She showed him the card and sure enough she was dead.  

That year when we went to put flower on the graves there she was buried in grave. She always did say She never did want anyone to know when she died because it wasn't anyone damn business.  She was one crazy aunt.
Your great grandfather look amazing wow Alexis 12 children, you certainly has a big family after him

What a wonderful photo spectacular he was able to collect so many children on the photo I about love the photo thank you for sharing

I always love your photos
Susan, thank you for your great comment. Two of the boys had big families, but the girls didn’t seem to like the idea of having a large family. I spent a large part of my younger life around this family.
Susan, I forgot to tell you that the reason they are all together is because this was taken the day of their mother’s funeral.
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by E. Stagner G2G3 (3.1k points)
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My husband’s Van Winkle/VanWinkle family, in the area south of Berea, KY, were in the newspapers numerous times because of “Another Bloody Battle”.  Most of the articles were in the 1890’s through 1910, when Martha (VanWinkle) Pigg was shot to death.  One relative claimed that the VanWinkles taught the Hatfields and the McCoys how to fight.  I have found a connection with the Hatfields, so there may possibly be some truth to that statement.
by Shirley Van Winkle G2G1 (1.3k points)
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There is and will always be a feud in my family and its still going on today since 1930+. My grandfather Attilio Fiordalisi-15 and Alfredo Giovanni Battista Fiordalisi-24 were brother really thicker than brothers. They came over lived in the same apartment until they both married two sisters a few blocks away. Next they all moved across the street from each other. This is NOT the feud. They even named their children almost the same. One of Alfredo children Vincent Fiordalis-1 changed his name. Also Alfredo changed his name to John. My grandfather never changed his name. Anyway as you see with Vincent Fiordalis he didn't want to be Italian so he changed the last letter of our last name so the story is told. This started the feud until they both died. Both Attilio and 'John' loved each other. On Sunday's both families would get together and enjoy each others company. BUT when the Fiordalis changed our name it changed both of their lives and all the Fiordalis(i)'s families. It's strange now, to this day nobody really knows the reason why the change in our last name. Also another feud happened, I think before this happened was their first born brother, Francesco Saverio Antonio Ettore Fiordalisi-25 changed his name to Francis Fleurdelis. To this day, nobody in our family knows why he changed his name completely. I myself think it he changed it after he married a socialite name Blown Evan-47888. Her father Edward Evans-47923,  immigrated from Wales. He was one of the first immigrated to travel to the WEST to seek his fortune. He settle in Spokane Washington. He was part of the Homestead Act. He is in the History of Spokane and Spokane County. So I think she had an influence on him changing his full name.
by Anne Fiordalisi G2G6 Mach 6 (62.6k points)
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It may be the case that in a feud between the De Wrothesleys and the De Pertons of Staffordshire in the 1300s, my possible biological family ancestor, Hugh De Wrothesley murdered my possible adopted family ancestor, John De Perton.

Good thing this was not a factor in my parents adoption decision.
by Ann Weiner G2G4 (4.2k points)
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My father stayed on the family farm with the understanding he would inherit it.  It financed new farms for two brothers, a college education for a brother and sister, and payments towards another brother who didn't attend, but financed a lively life style, until it was discovered.  Also a financial gift to his sister for her new home.  My father was married, at the age of 45, and died at 50, leaving my mother with 4 small children and little income, living with her father-in-law.
Her letters indicate he tried to poison me with pills when I was 15 months old, but the woman attending her when my youngest brother was born found me sitting in the middle of the table, grabbed me and took me to Mom's room and warned her not to leave me alone with him.  She said his remark when I was born was that it was too bad I wasn't a dog so he could take me out and shoot me like he had done to my father's dog so no one had to spend 25 cents for a license,   By the way, it is almost certain he smothered his first grandchild, people who knew the truth were dead when the story resurfaced.  My mother moved us away six months after my father died and struggled to raise us.  My
grandfather's older sister begged him to leave the farm to Mom but he refused and finally willed it to our generation when he died.  I was 10 at the time.  It could not be settled until my youngest brother turned 21 and cost my mother a lot of money that she couldn't afford through court costs through those years.  She finally realized her dream of us living on the farm, as she and my father had visualized before he died, and she and my brother lived there until she died.  She never could be really happy though because she never had enough money to do what she felt they would have been doing if he had lived.  The truth be told, she and my father were realizing he was not going to get the farm and they were looking for some where else to move to when he died.  I can remember, at about age 4, of my Aunt Mary sitting on the floor of our living room and wailing at the top of her voice when she found out how my grandfather was treating us and not doing as she was bidding him to do and she felt she had been lied to.
by Beulah Cramer G2G6 Pilot (571k points)
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I've been working with Karen Osborne on the Osborne-Gose family feud in the Kentucky hills, which lasted from about 1864 to about 1900.  "Bad Bill" Osborne is suspected of killing at least 20 people himself.  The story starts with Stephen Osborne (Osborne-10339)
by Lorri Byrne G2G6 (6.9k points)
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My Dad had 2 aunts that lived across the street from each other. They had once been close (as I found through a couple of censuses where they lived together or next door to each other). They had purposely moved to the 2 houses across the street. But, all my memories were of them not talking to each other. We would go visit one aunt, stay a good portion of the day, leave, drive around the block and go visit the other aunt for a few hours. It was funny, but it wasn't.
by Debra Akin G2G6 Mach 2 (21.4k points)
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There are two spellings of the name "Garrigues" and "Garrigus". This dates back to the time of the revolution. As the story goes, Jacob dropped the 'e' from his name to differentiate himself as a patriot from his siblings who were Quaker pacifists.

As I've done research, it's pretty clear that brothers and cousins with both spellings served in the revolution, so this may have a grain of truth, but it's not 100% true.

I think it may have been tied to Jacob's brother Samuel (my ancestor) and Samuel Jr both being accused (and acquitted) of spying for the British during the occupation of Philadelphia.

Samuel and his son were acquitted, but who knows if Jacob ever believed they were innocent.
by Chris Garrigues G2G6 (9.4k points)
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Yes, my grandmother and her sister had a huge row over a pillow. Aunt Nora took back a pillow she had given Goldie years before. Couldn’t even mention the other’s name for the rest of their lives.
by Brenda Berry G2G Crew (500 points)
How terribly sad.
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Maybe a better question to ask is "Has there ever been a time in your family when feuds were not going on?"

Perhaps the most intriguing one was between my grandfather, Edward Burton Ceruti, Sr. and my great grandmother, Rebecca Angelina Abascal Wark, Edward's mother-in-law, as described below in Mystery no. 6 on the following web page regarding Ceruti Family Mysteries:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Ceruti_Family_Mysteries#comment_8022408

We have some idea of approximately when the feud started. We know that the feud lasted for many years and Rebecca hated even the mention of Edward's name. We know it was so bad that Edward and Rebecca's daughter, Lillian, had to elope on a sailboat from the Bahamas to Florida to get married. We know almost everything about this long-standing family feud except why Rebecca hated Edward.

We don't know what Edward, or a member of his family, did that made Rebecca hate him. I don't think he hated her but he did feel like "persona non grata" on his only visit back to the Bahamas when his daughter, Evelyn, was born.

Maybe Rebeca thought that he had done something he did not do. We really don't know. If anyone has any insight about this long-standing family mystery, please tell all you know. You can post a comment to the web page described above. If anyone can solve this mystery, a small reward is available.

Other feuds more recent between family members include the descendants of my uncle Edward Burton Ceruti III. He died and his wife remarried. The children did not get along with their step father so they went to live with uncles. This unfortunate incident had caused Edward III's children to become estranged from the family but now this has been resolved, thanks to WikiTree. Cousins are back in touch.

Then there were feuds more recently involving living people, so I won't describe them here.

by Marion Ceruti G2G6 Pilot (361k points)
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Yes, distant relations of mine were involved in what is now known as the Rowan County War. They even got a historical marker, which I visited a few years ago during a Toliver family reunion held at Morehead, Kentucky. You can read more about the feud here.
You can read my genealogy blog post about that visit and see pictures here.




 

by Robert Burnett G2G1 (1.2k points)
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An Aunt of my wife's 2nd great grandfather died without children. A house purchased by a nephew without title being transferred to his Aunt was claimed by the Aunt's deceased husbands family. Check this page with a full description from the London Times.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hohler-51

by Stephen McLeod G2G2 (2.4k points)
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In the early 1900's my great grandfather and his brother had a falling out. To distinguish between the two families one changed the surname from Fitzsimmons to Simmons. I have to look at both surnames when researching.
by Cheryl Buzila G2G Crew (540 points)
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The Campbell / MacDonald feud is an old feud people still like to bring up especially if your surname is Campbell. I am descended from both names (multiple lines). I like to tell people that as far as I am concerned the feud ended with my G. Grandparents, he was a Campbell and she was a MacDonald. Here is the story: https://www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/glencoe/the-glencoe-massacre
by Lori Campbell G2G Crew (860 points)
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Nope, not a one. Come from Quakers and other peace-loving people. Did have ancestors in the "war to free the slaves".
by Alison Gardner G2G6 Mach 8 (84.7k points)
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Many long feuds in Scottish Borders. Elliot, Kerr all before 1600
by William Scott G2G2 (2.7k points)
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Our family was involved in a feud that began in 1863, during the civil war.  In 1864, my 3rd great uncle, John Osborn (eldest son) and my 3rd great grandfather, Steve Osborne, were killed by members of the Gose family.  Steve Osborn's second son, Bill Osborn, also know as "Bad Bill" Osborn, took it upon himself to avenge his father and brother.  He apparently went on a revenge killing spree all over Eastern Kentucky.  In the end, several of the Gose posse would uproot and move, nine out of the original 15 of the posse would end up dead or in insane asylums.  

My uncle Bad Bill was eventually killed in 1898, in Anniston, Alabama, when he tried to rob his friend.  Nice guy.

We are also loosely related to the Eversoles form the French-Eversole feud, also in Eastern Kentucky.
by Karen Osborn G2G Crew (960 points)
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Yes, Hatfield McCoy feud... My 3rd Great Grandfather, James G (Slater) Hatfield and Devil Anse's father were brothers. Devil Anse and I share his grandfather, Valentine Wall Hatfield. He is my 4th Great Grandfather.
by Timothy Hatfield G2G Crew (630 points)

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