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WikiTree profile: Pip Sheppard
closed with the note: See y'all next weekend! Stay safe.
in The Tree House by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)
closed by Pip Sheppard

Welcome to another edition of the Weekend Chat! And greetings from Cathey’s Creek where upon stepping out on my back deck early this morning I scared up four deer whose plunging back into the woods scared me. Deer have been hitting our acorn stash on the regular and they sound like they are eating Cap’t Crunch or something equally hard. Squirrels have been at it, too. Love our wildlife (when they are not scaring the dickens out of me.

On the Home Front: Speaking of wildlife, our screened-in back deck is on an upper level. Where the stairs start leading down to the back, there is this one piece of level banister. I put sunflower seeds there for our chickadees and titmice. A chipmunk has figured out where to find mouthfuls of seed. S/he often clears off the banister before the birds can get much of any. We named him/her “Vacuum” as s/he leaves nary a seed.  I’ve had to buy extra bags of seed.

We were expecting as much as eight folks at our table for Thanksgiving dinner yesterday, and elder daughter and her son, our widowed pastor, our assistant pastor and his wife, and a cousin of mine (the one who drove me around when I couldn’t because of my operation), plus the two of us. Our pastor came down with a stomach bug, so he was out.

Our daughter’s whiney men (son, husband, and father-in-law) complained about not having a Thanksgiving meal, so she stayed home to fix that. She sent a ream of texts asking how to make this, how to make that. My wife: “WE GAVE YOU ALL THE RECIPES TWO YEARS AGO!!” Daughter sent pics of all the cooking, and also of a couple of the lazy men sitting in the den either watching football or sleeping while she cooked. Grrr… With all that going on, we were down to five at our meal… possibly.

Our assistant pastor and wife weren’t sure they were going to make it to the meal, so we three (wife, cousin, and me) started making everything early yesterday, too much food for just us. At noon I received a text that they were on their way. Good thing we prepped a full buffet. (We made more than for just us, as our daughter was supposed to come today and wanted my wife’s leftovers.)

It’s a tick!” This is what Southerners say when their stomachs are so full, they can barely move. It refers to those big fat ticks one finds in an outside dog’s ears. We were all that full.

Last night, a text from our daughter stated that she was exhausted (remember those lazy men) and wasn’t coming up. I guess we’ll see her at Christmas. I’ll work on finishing up all those leftovers.

On the Genealogy Front: There’s this English professor, who does videos on medieval churches and customs. I really love his channel. I was watching his video on a small church (St. Mary’s, Barton Bendish, Norfolk, England). As he was going through the church and videoing near the altar, he showed a flat gravestone for three people, a husband, wife, and daughter.

I could help myself! I went on the hunt and found the Tiffins on FS in a parish book whose only transcribed page had these folks. I created profiles for this family and got some help on G2G for handwriting on the document. I’ll keep on working with this family for a while. It gives me a break from my own.

Be blessed, every one of you!

Enjoy the Chat!

Hi Pip! It sounds like you had a quasi-great Thanksgiving. It would have been nicer, I think, if your daughter had left those lazy men to their own devices and joined all y'all for Thanksgiving. It is kind of you, as ever, to include your chauffeur (I just had to ask Alexa how to spell 'chauffeur') cousin, and the pastor and his wife. We don't use 'it's a tick' although that is a good one for the overeating trivia book. We say 'I'm stuffed' (as in the turkey no longer is).

WOW! Your work on the Tiffin family is awesome and a wonderful addition to the WikiTree Clan! I will complete my sister's paternal line (as far as I can go) this weekend. This had been a major divergence given that all of the surnames, and German and Swedish place names are so 'foreign' to myEnglish speaking/reading/writing focus. I am thinking of finding notables from various places that I traveled while teaching for the military in East Asia and adding them to the Tree just to keep me culturally adept in a small way.

I am counting the weeks!

"Chauffeur" Every time I use this work in a doc of some kind I have to look up the spelling! laugh I just don't use it enough to get it in my head.

It looks like it'll be February instead of January for my trip. I'll definitely keep you posted. Meeting up with you is one of the highlights of the trip! 

Pip, your chipmunk is female. She was gathering Thanksgiving meal for all of the lazy Man-Gophers in her family.  On the geni- Is it common knowledge that F Scott Fitzgerald was cousin to Francis Scott Key? If so, I missed it before. Thanks be to Wiki, a new light comes on daily. I now feel enlightened.

Funny you should mention "chipmunk" because next week's parody is:   (CENSORED)

I guess you will just have to wait and see!surprise

Sounds like you had an interesting day, perhaps along the line of the apocryphal Chinese comment, may you live in interesting times.

While seemingly a blessing, the expression is normally used ironically; life is better in "uninteresting times" of peace and tranquility than in "interesting" ones, which are usually times of trouble.

Glad you were able to gather food and love even if it was a small gathering. I recommend soup and freezing to use up leftovers. Thankful for you and the chatters!
@ David: If it isn't Alvin and the Chipmunks, I am going to be dissapointed. I still want that hula hoop!!

PIP!!!

Glad you had a great Thanksgiving, man. I will just cut this short here because I want to get to my main post. Scroll down for awesomeness. =D

Glad the meal was somewhat of a success, Cuz! Too bad your daughter couldn't send the slackers out to a restaurant...or at least leave them the dirty dishes...

Haha, scared by deer. I was too, the first night my car broke down on our (unlit) country road and I was walking home. A loud whuff! in the cemetery! Think we scared each other!

Chris you beat me. "Alvin! Now cut that out"

(170) The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late) - Alvin and The Chipmunks | Fox Family Entertainment - YouTub

I think that is a great idea hummm.  Help me out here. humm.

"I have been searching for many years."

"It has brought me joy and tears"  

Ohhh PIP are you going to be singing the gong tomorrow?"

"Scroll down for awesomeness" could be a line in every weekend chat. Lol!
LOL about your daughter and her men.  And needing all the recipes again.  I am never making traditional Thanksgiving dinner again.  This year we went to what is normally a great restaurant with a wonderful buffet.  Not so much this time.  Maybe next year I'll have potroast like my daughter did!

You know what?  This time your post did not have any doctors, physical therapy, pains or problems mentioned!  You must have had a very thankful holiday.  Not that you can't talk about those things, but they weren't top of mind this time.  I'm glad for you.

Hahaha!!! I would never noticed that I didn't include anything medical this time around. Things must be looking up, Cindy! laugh

Cousin D, I cannot wait to tell my daughter at Christmas that her "men" were slackers (and they were!).

You know, M, "While seemingly a blessing," is so true! I'll take the peace and tranquility of an uninteresting day. Thanks!

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This Week We Give Thanks For WikiTree with this new paroday!laugh

Mr. Whitten

Sung to the tune of Mr. Sandman

  • 1954 First recored by Vaughn Monroe on the B side of "They Were Doing the Mambo"
  • The Chordettes' version was a single that reached No. 1 on all three of Billboard's popular music charts, and was ranked No. 9 in Cash Box's ranking of "1955's Top Pop Records as Voted in the Cash Box Poll".
  • In 2002, the 1954 recording of the song by The Chordettes on Cadence Records was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame
  • https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bleyer-57 Archie Bleyer
  • https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Buschmann-230 Jeanette Bleyer
  • Written by Pat Ballard
    • Parody by Dave Draper  (Mr. Whitten is my 9th cousin once removed)heart

Here is the music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX45pYvxDiA

  • Click on the link and the music should play, then come back here and try to sing along
    • or open the link in a new window
  • Mr. Whitten
  • Mr. Whitten, you made WikiTree
  • Made it the best site that I’ve ever seen
  • You gave it style and worked it over
  • On Weekend Chat my lonesome nights are over
  • Whitten, I’m not alone
  • Wikipeeps are a singing along
  • Thank you for the WikiTree
  • Mr. Whitten, you brought us a dream
  • Music
  • Mr. Whitten, you made WikiTree
  • Made it the best site that I’ve ever seen
  • I give you my word, I’m not a rover
  • On Weekend Chat my lonely nights are over
  • Whitten, I’m not alone
  • Wikipeeps are singing along
  • Thank you for the WikiTree
  • Mr. Whitten, you brought us a dream
  • Music
  • Mr. Whitten (yes) you brought us a dream
  • We’ve been able to document our families
  • We made a profile of Pagliacci
  • And Notables like Liberace
  • Mr. Whitten, may I be bold?
  • I’m your cousin, that’s what I’m told
  • So thank you for your WikiTree
  • Mr. Whitten, thank you, thank thank you
  • Mr. Whitten, you brought us a dream!

devilMore WeekEnd Chat Parodies >>>CLICK HERE<<<

Archie Bleyer and the Chordettes

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.8m points)
edited by David Draper
This is GREAT! Well done, David!
Fantastic David!! I love this - the tune is perfect.
Another wonderful parody. This one will be swirling around in my brain for some time today.
I wonder if you've seen the "Mr. Biden" parody of this song by Randy Rainbow. =D
Love it. Thank you, David!! :-)
I don't know how you do it, David.  This is great!  Now I'll be singing Mr Whitten all day.
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¡Buenos días a todos from the Old Pueblo! It is 7:00 am and 55F (12.8C) with an expected high of 72F (22.2C) with sunny skies in Tucson. It is a perfect day to go shopping for ‘Black Friday’ specials IF you want to be trampled by people who can purchase the same item at the same price on Saturday!

 

I know the start of my week is going to sound creepy. I made plans with my sister, Bonny, to chat via zoom this past Monday with the funeral home person who organized our mum’s memorial. I am a hospice nurse and would ask family/patients if final arrangements were made. All this time it has been ‘do as I say, don’t do as I do’. I finally listened to myself and my brother-in-law, who was left in two difficult situations with his Dad’s and then a year later with our Mum’s arrangements. It was quite a nice experience zooming with Bonny and Oliver…a bit of self-exploration, knowing the family will not have to worry about where the money will come from, or if they are doing what I would have liked. I am not sure about other countries, but in the USA, funeral costs are overseen by federal guidelines so bereaved family members cannot be taken advantage of during the grieving process. Even the way the pre-arranged costs are handled fall under federal guidelines (the $ goes into a specific account that cannot be wiped out if I must go into extended care, or if the funeral director dies before I do…the account is listed in a trust so that the $ can be accessed when I die). If I had a tombstone, which I won’t, it would read, “I was a descendant. Now I am an ancestor”. I think this was a question on g2g a year or so ago.

 

I hope everyone who celebrates the holiday had a wonderful Thanksgiving yesterday! I started my morning re-watching Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World starring Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany during which I enjoyed an English muffin with port wine jam and a “cuppa”. Following the movie, I chatted with my daughter, Jennifer, her family, my sister, Bonny, and her brood. They were all together for Thanksgiving and each one brought a “dish.” My brother-in-law brought his ever-popular cheesecake. He learned how to make it from our Mum. Good news for all Packer fans, the Green Bay Packers beat the Detroit Lions 29 to 22! I then spoke with my brother, Lev, and his family. Lev does ALL the cooking and baking on Thanksgiving. He is a retired Sheriff and I swear that if he had never gone into law enforcement, he would have been an Iron Chef or whatever a top-notch chef is called. His wife, Sue, won the Mayflower jackpot: she is a direct descendant of Stephen Hopkins, William Brewster, John Alden, Priscilla Mullins, and Thomas Rogers. There could be more. I need to do more work on her Tree.

 

I spent Thanksgiving with my friends Stuart and Diana at their home. Their son, Jeremy, drove down from Colorado. I brought sweet potatoes (the way my grandmother made them), and two pies, pumpkin, and lemon meringue. They provided turkey with all the fixings. Stuart and Diana just returned on the 21st from a two-week trip to Egypt exploring Abu Simbel, the Great Pyramid at Giza, Valley of the Kings, boating along the Nile and much more. Stuart is a very good photographer and between dinner and dessert, he hooked his phone up to their large screen telly and did a slide show via Fire Stick. It was (almost) like having my own private tour. I have wanted to go to Egypt since forever, but I do not think I will make it in this lifetime. Their photos were the closest I would likely get, and I learned a great deal just seeing these images and hearing of their experiences. I did see the Tut Exhibit when it was on display at the museum in Chicago YEARS ago and Egyptian items that had been ‘acquired’ by the British Museum. I first met Stuart in 1995 when he was chair of the Department of Medicine at the U of Arizona. We became colleagues and friends. He agreed (well, I badgered him) to review the policy paper the nurses are working on. He has written several policy papers, and I am grateful for his help.

 

I am near completing my sister’s paternal line. Maria Lundholm has been an immense help with Bonny’s Swedish ancestors. It looked like one of Bonny’s lines would be connected to Germans who settled Germanna, Virginia in the early 1600’s; however, I found no substantive records, and birth years are off. I think some of the PMs for the Merten/Martin line need to re-review these ancestors because dates and names do not seem quite right. I will be looking forward to returning to my Bucks Baldwins at the end of next week!

 

Pip, as ever, thank you for leading the Weekend Chat. I am another week closer to seeing you and Mike! I also want to wish all my WikiTree friends and family a great fourth and last full weekend of November 2023. Saludos a todos!

by Carol Baldwin G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Carol, one thing my wife and I will not do is shop on Black Friday! Trampling is right. There'll be later deals we can show for all December.

Glad you were able to spend Thanksgiving with someone, anyone, since your family lives so far away. Did you have to be careful for what you ate, or did you just throw reason to the wind and enjoy?
Hi Pip, thank you for your kind question about diet. I took 3 lipase pills instead of two and at a bit of everything except for the cranberries, which where whole (I can eat the cranberry sauce). The whole cranberries wreck my guts. After the tour of Egypt, I took another two capsules and had a small slice of each pie with a dab of whipped cream on the pumpkin. I'll know by the end of today if I will suffer for this.

I think people who enjoy shopping on 'black Friday' due it out of sheer masochism!

I have to go along with no Black Friday shopping.  I use to work at The Home Depot and it was nightmare!  I am so glad I have a different "great retirement" job now!laugh

Many years ago when I worked for Hallmark Cards, all Christmas related product was 50% off on Boxing Day, 26 Dec, plus a few other old items we needed to clear out.

After many conversations with people who wanted to buy the store fixtures at 50% off, who said they would call the police because all product in all stores was required to be 50% off on Boxing Day. Their list included b-day cards, wedding invitations, photo albums etc, etc.

I suggested they go into a food store and discuss it with the manager. I volunteered to call the police for them.

I came to the conclusion that people who shopped on Boxing Day were there because no one wanted their company.
Hi M, thank you for this very interesting Boxing Day story and its UK parallel to our 'black Friday' insanity!
I only shop online, so much less trample to it! I'm glad you were able to get down a little food, hope it doesn't come back to haunt. Thankful for you and your adventures every weekend.
Hi Erin, I think of all of you, even by name on Thanksgiving and other holidays. You make my life so much better and richer on these chats and I very much appreciate all of you. I am actually buying a Kliban Cat calendar for my daughter online today. She had these cat sheets on her bed when she was little and adored that cat in red tennies!

Have a great black Friday letting your fingers to the walking and buying without the crowds!
I was often on the retail side of things on Black Friday. Thankfully, I am now retired and will no longer 'enjoy' that made-up day of the year. Would you believe the most fun I ever had on Black Friday was working the Lay-Away counter? I viewed it as a challenge - one that I successfully met each year. My thought process was simple. I had to keep an accurate account of it all because the hopes and dreams of loving families were all wrapped up in those Lay-Away packages.
Cousin Carol, I'm happy you were able to spend Thanksgiving with friends. Hopefully the meal didn't cause your gut any stress.

I was cautious, took very small portions, as last T-giving my gallbladder rebelled and I had to put it in the refrigerator for a day or two (the meal, not the gallbladder). Yesterday, no problem at all and I just finished my leftovers, another Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat (as Arlo would say).

Great job getting together the conversation with family about final arrangements. I ask T what he wants to do and he says, "I dunno."

Shopping on Black Friday? Bah. Worked retail for too many years.  Most folks don't realize that the term originated with police in Philadelphia (?) who dreaded having to manage the downtown traffic kerfuffle. It was merchants who turned it around to mean getting out of the red!
Hi D, I am so glad that digestion went well for you yesterday. These gut issues are a real pain (in the gut AND the backside). I worked in retail as well for a number of years and this is the first time I head an interpretation other than merchants getting out of the red! Thanks for this tidbit!
CNBC has a story about it, which I couldn't copy/paste. There'a also a reference to Jay Gould and Jim Fisk's 1869 attempt to corner the gold market...discovered on "Black Friday." The Grant administration shut it down.
@D Armistead...I was up at 5:30 am to beat the crowds at the local lab for blood draw. It's first come first serve. I just saw this post and will Google this info when I get home. I had to stop at Starcrack for a decaf. One of my favorite things about WikiTree is all the history (separate from all the lovely kin).
@Carol, hope the blood draw went well.  Interesting story about the robber barons!

Like you, I never come on the Chat without learning new things! And a trip to K's museum is certainly in the offing.  Maybe I'll stop there en route to tracking down the cemeteries in Arkansas where some of my dad's kinfolk are buried.
It's been a while since I have hosted a party. Maybe we can have a convergence of WikiTreer's, Quantrill's Society and the GAR Reunion on Aug 16th to commemorate the 161st Anniversary of the battle Lone Jack. Maybe even a prize for the best Rooster Cogburn costume.
Sounds like fun, K! Sadly, I'm working out of town most of the summer, till Labor Day...
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                                                                                               Top of the Morning to everyone from that ‘Little Scrap Outside of Kansas City’. Hope everyone got their fill of turkey and fixin’s yesterday. Old Man Winter is on his way to town IF the weather pundits have conspired correctly. I guess we might as well get started and Git ‘er done and be over it.

I will be at the museum today from 10-4. Free admission for anyone who comes in at 2:00 to keep me company and keep me awake. Must use the password “turkey sammich with mayo” preferably on toast. I meant must bring, not use. If no leftover turkey, stop by Alice’s Restaurant and pick up a PB&J. In the Holiday Spirit I had to check, Arlo is my 7c2r as we share a grandpa Beasley William Beasley (abt.1650-1719). FFTKAT. Doug, if you are out there, thanks for the connection cuz.

Pip, once again, many thanks for the Chat. Like so many before me have said, ‘I shall return’.

by K Smith G2G6 Pilot (377k points)
I didn't wait to come of age to begin my research on how they could make something so good so cheap. Now, my dr has put the kabosh and squawheabus to my final analysis.
Wow, K! Sound advice...if I ever attempt to visit St. Louis #1 or #2 in NOLA, it will be with a tour group.

We just didn't want to get in the middle of any potential drug-related shootout in Philly.  Betsy Ross used to be buried there, but they moved her remains when the neighborhood got dodgy.

It was 10-ish years ago and I had an early morning meeting to get to.  And I love the blues...used to go dancing at the Schuper House in Buffalo (now closed) when I lived there.
My retirement party, I had Nick Schneblin, Albert Collins IBC Guitarist of the year winner, and Brody Buster who appeared on the Tonight Show and played with BB King as a child prodigy, blues harp player years ago, play a three-hour gig. The party started early on a Wed afternoon. The house was packed. I think I have been there once since then in seven years.
Albert Collins, no way! :) I can't really drop too many names, but I used to wait tables out in MA when James Cotton played (packed the house)...and I ran with the Fat City band out of Boston area...ah, my misspent youth...

Back Fence.......9 minute walk from my uncle Jack's NYC address back in the day.

The Albert Collins Award is given each year at the International Blues Contest, held in Memphis each year, for up-and-coming blues players. Nick won the year his band, Trampled Under Foot won band of the year. I'm sure there is some YouTube videos of 'TUF' and Brody Buster. His sister Danielle aka Danielle Nicole is probably better known. They are both featured on the Blues Cruise and the Weekend or Big Blues Bender out in Vegas.

All this chit chat about days of old, reminds me of an engagement that has been planned for a while. I think I will drive by the 'Six Man Cemetery', drive through the Battlefield, go by and honk at Cole Younger and meet some old friends for cocktails and some more chit chat. Give Nick and Danielle a listen and let me know what you think. Most of my friends listen to the same played out songs they liked in High School, the same ones I have typically avoided since, therefore we agree to disagree on music.
The Back Fence. I had enough for as Tee Shirt at the end of the night. (I was taught to never carry more $$ than you could afford to lose) So, I bought me a tee. Probably should have bought the hat, it would have fit longer!
i live in a sw suburb of St Louis.  If you come this wah let me know  I can tell you things to do and things to avoid.  Happy to meet up too!  Lots of free things to do here.  Zoo is one of top5 in the world and is free.  Grants Farm is also free but not open year round.  check their website for hours and info.
Hi Laura! If your comment is meant for me, I attended grad school at WashU! The zoo is wonderful, as is the art museum in Forest Park. Never made it to Grant's Farm, though it sounds like it's become very commercial since the brewery bought it.

I was referring to the St. Louis cemeteries in New Orleans, where you can apparently get mugged and they tell you to visit in a group.

yes I was reacting to the mention of St Louis  My grand kiddos love Grant's Farm  Home - The Grant’s Farm Experience | St. Louis, MO (grantsfarm.com)  I keep having to remind myself there are several St Louis locations in the USA

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Hi from southern Ontario, well not actually southern Ontario, today I’m saying Hi from Stittsville, Ontario, just a few miles from Ottawa, Ontario, just about 5 hours drive from home, we are in Stittsville looking after my youngest granddaughter Evie the magnificent! 

Chez moi/at home: what's been happening here? Weather has been alternatively miserable and slightly less miserable. Temps between 0 and 5C, rain, clouds and dark. There’s a reason why November weather is called drismal, it’s a combination of drizzle and dismal.  

In Stittsville it is -8C this morning!

WikiTree and family history: I have continued working on my short biography suggestions now down to 81 from 105 last week. It’s interesting because many of them are profiles that have been untouched for 2+ years, some of them make me cringe as they are so basic. I’m really hoping that the profile managers for 3 conflated profiles will approve merges I have proposed, if not they will be approved by default a week from now. 

What else: Today we are going to various local used book stores looking for a copy of The Flight of the old Dog by Dale Brown, the first in series of books about the group of people involved in this continuing series, I have all of the following books but as I think Robbie will enjoy them he needs to read the first book before the rest.

I’m also going to look for a new winter coat hoping that the selection will be better in a colder place than home. I have two winter coats; one has lost most of its down stuffing and another has been cursed with a non-functional zipper as have many garments with zippers over the past few years. It costs over $100 to have a 2 way zipper replaced.  

by M Ross G2G6 Pilot (749k points)
Hi M! I will shut up about my 70F givn your -8C! I am so hoping that Tucson doesn't go to an extreme cold this winter to complement the extreme heat this past summer! That would just do me in! I mentioned last Friday that I had been to the ER thinking I had a kidney stone. I now think it is advancing arthritis either in the lower right ribs or (Buddha forfend) the right hip! The pain is staggering as is my gait. My friend Stuart, an MD, said one can get arthritis in any bone in the body. I know for sure that the 'muscle relaxant' that the ER doc gave me does nothing to help this pain. I see my PCP in 2 weeks and she can figure it out.

Meanwhile, my brother suggested I go to a 'Dispensary' which is the term used for a store that sells pot products legally here in Arizona. He swears by the 'gummy bears' that he takes. I will be looking up a local dispensary and will go on Monday given that I want to avoid crowds, including traffic these few days after Thanksgiving.

I hope you can find a nice warm coat at a reasonable price!
Good luck on your book hunt, and the coat search as well! We recently took a trip to the Caribbean and my husband needed sandals, in November. Even though we live at the "beach" (Virginia Beach) they are not out this time of year.
You’re in Stittsville? I lived in Stittsville for many years but I am now just over the way in Kanata. Enjoy your visit!
We were in Kanata this afternoon!

We made the mistake of trying to go to the Tanger outlet to look for my new winter coat, and I had forgotten it was Black Friday and that it would be crowded. They had people directing traffic and no parking spaces to be found. So we gave up and went for lunch at the Baton Rouge across the 417.

Then went to Sport Chek where I found a new coat, though it was a good thing we went in person, instead of shopping on line. Sizes keep changing or perhaps more accurately the size of clothes listed as size small, medium etc are not the same.

The last winter coat I bought several years ago was a size medium, since then I have lost 15 pounds and today's coat is a size extra large and was on sale $100 off.

M, some years ago I was looking for a warm coat. I had coats, but none warm enough for the mountain winters. I went online to this place I like to order from. They had what I was looking for, but reading the comments/questions like "Did you fix the zipper?" (Answer was yes.") So, I ordered the coat. It was very warm, but I struggle with the zipper at times. Guess they really didn't fix it.

The zipper issue is a common complaint for almost all items of clothing that have zippers.

Personally I think it is something to do with there being only 1 company that manufactures almost all zippers. YKK is a huge company, if you look at the zipper tabs on a zipper they are all made by YKK,  at some time I think they messed up the quality control
A better mouse trap is hard enuff, a better zipper? Better get Velcro!
And the plastic coil is no match to the metal teeth model, to me.
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Happy Black Friday and Thanksgiving Recovery Day!!

My husband, son and I gathered the cornbread dressing and the two pies, pumpkin and pecan, that I had made and we drove north to our younger daughter's house for our Thanksgiving meal. They had quite a spread as her husband is a great cook and our daughter is no slouch in the kitchen! When we finished that feast we traveled south a few miles to our other daughter's for birthday cake. Her husband was celebrating his 60th birthday so his family was there also. We got to see and visit with our grandson who is home from his first semester of college. We were exhausted by the end of the evening. But it was a good exhaustion!

This morning my husband left to meet up with the younger daughter and her older son. He will hook up their camper and she will follow to take the camper to their hunting camp. Her husband and the younger son will leave about mid-day to trail behind them and be available in case of any issues with the trailer. My husband, being retired, will be there all week. I plan a lot of genealogy and some Christmas decorating. I am physically so slow that it will take me all week to get everything up - especially the tree. Our son will be able to help when a ladder is necessary.

As always, thank you Pip for hosting the chat and it is great to take the time to read through the posts each week. Have a great time eating all those leftovers!!
by Virginia Fields G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

Wow!  What a day!  What and adventure!  Have fun decorating!wink

That is the very best kind of exhaustion! Glad you got to spend some time with loved ones and good food. Take your time decorating, it's part of the enjoyment and you have plenty of time.

Ginny, what with retirement and the kids grown up (even our grandson who is 19), we do minimal decorating for Christmas. We must have a tree up for one of our daughters. We'll ribbon the fireplace mantle and hang wreaths on the porch post. and that's about. Decorating is still fun for me, but I have always hated the packing things up.

Yes, I also hate the taking everything down and packing it away; however, after many years, I have the containers all organized and labeled so I know where everything goes. That takes some of the pain out of the process!!
+25 votes

Virtual Vacation!

In 2017 when we were in England for my Sil’ s wedding the first place we visited was Canterbury in Kent and it’s famous cathedral.  The cathedral has been the centre of the Anglican church in England since the days of Henry VIII. Before that it was a Catholic church.

It was founded by St Augustine in 597 AD, Canterbury Cathedral is a unique place of worship, a major pilgrimage destination, a masterpiece of art and architecture, and one of the UK's most-visited historic sites. This is part of the cloisters at the cathedral, if you look carefully at the stone walls you can see many examples of graffiti.

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Of course, since 597 it has been remodeled and parts of it rebuilt several times, in 1070, 1098, in 1170 Thomas Beckett was murdered at the cathedral, parts were rebuilt after a fire in 1175, between 1377 and 1405 the original nave was rebuilt and replaced with current day version. In 1498 a bell tower was replaced with the current central tower.  In 1538 Henry VIII destroyed Beckett’s tomb and then dissolved the monastery-that is told them they were out of business- as the cathedral was a Roman Catholic church. Between 1670 and 1704 the damage caused by the Puritans was repaired. Another tower was rebuilt in 1834, and then in 1954 the library was rebuilt after being damaged during WW2. And the maintenance continues. 

I know as a homeowner I should keep records of any renovations and major changes made to my house, I’m sure I have records of anything significant, but I only have 30 years of records. The cathedral has the original records!

One of the most surprising discoveries for me was the amount of really old graffiti. Some are medieval and are found in the various crypts, they are mostly shapes and scenes of biblical or other religious icons. Some were made by the many workers on the site.

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In the cloisters you can see more familiar graffiti, names or initials and dates. Many of the later ones were made by students at the Canterbury King’s School. King’s School has existed on this site for hundreds of years and for most of that time, the students played and worked on the cathedral grounds. 

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The next 2 photos were originally posted to the Weekend Chat in October 2020.

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What is amazing is that some of the authors of the graffiti have been identified from student lists at Canterbury King’s School, others from lists of masons and other trades at the cathedral. 

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This is me, sitting in the bishop’s chair in the chapter house. I'm sure that a long dead person is very disapproving of a Roman Catholic woman sitting in the Bishop's chair. 

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by M Ross G2G6 Pilot (749k points)

Love those pictures!   Thank You for sharing!yesyes

Hi M! You selected one of my favorite places in England AND I was there with my sister and niece around 2017. I will have to dig out all my old photos and determine the year specificallyt. I passed on photos of graffiti (BTW there is ancient graffiti on some of the Egyptian temples - it's everywhere...like Chickenman).

I have Kent ancestry Big Time! And there are statues in Canterbury of at least two of my Boys kin! One is an 11th cousin, Sir John Boys, who was Dean of Canterbury Cathedral from 1619-1625. I found a URL with his information, but I have an exact photo. This figure is 'behind bars' and the security guard unlocked the gate and let me in to do the photo op because I was kin! This effigy is right next to where Thomas Becket was stabbed to death by four of Henry II's henchmen:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Monument_to_Dean_John_Boys,_Canterbury_Cathedral_(12619686614).jpg

The other effigy is of another John Boys, this one a 10th great granduncle. He was a Royalist Governor of Donnington Castle during the Inter-Regnum. What irked me about this effigy was his full length lounging pose and the little figures of his two wives praying beneath him. Classic! Again, I took a photo just like this and will need to find it and add it to his Biography on WT, which is sadly lacking!

http://blog.appletonstudios.com/2019/12/boy-oh-boys.html

I am a direct descendant of John Boys (~1477-1533) of Bonnington and his first wife Elizabeth Alday. They were of the English aristocracy and many of the Boys family are tied with Canterbury and/or Kent.

While in Kent, we also toured Leeds Castle, which was full of fun history!

Thank you so much for this blast from the past. It is so great to see 'other' views of this cathedral.
I just love your photos they are amazing.
Thanks Chris!  Glad you like them
The fun fact of your post, M: that some of the graffiti artists were able to be identified. That's cool.

Canterbury is on my bucket list.
@M Ross, When we were at the cathedral, we were told that there was a crypt for Steven Langton. The deal is that there was some foo foo couple who wanted their crypts and it was near Steven Langton's. So what did they do to rectify the problem? They pushed the wall out and so Steven langton's feet are hanging out of Canterbury cathedral. In the casket of course. And there's Stone built around it. Honest to God my kids sister went outside and spotted that change in the wall and she got a picture of it. Did you happen to see that when you were there? Did you happen to see where that casket well not the casket there's bricks that kind of match the cathedral that's around that casket but it's actually sticking out of the wall not too far from the middle entrance. Did you hear that story when you were there? Clever problem solving.
+23 votes
I ate too much!
by Luther Brown G2G6 Pilot (564k points)
" I can't believe I ate the whole thing", better get Pepto!

bahahahahahaah!yesyes

A little inside boomer-humor.
plop plop, fizz fizz
Me too.
If you cooked, Luther, I'll believe it!
+22 votes
I thought of you briefly when you described the deer in the yard and figured you were aware of the possibility they are leaving deer ticks in your yard that may be carrying the Lyme disease bacteria.  Of course we have a lot of it, having spread from Connecticut over the years.  The reason I mention this is because two years ago when I went to Florida on the train I assume I picked up a tick on the train.  Since it was late November I only was on the sidewalk and driveway, not in grass or bush.  About three days after I got there I noticed a gray pouch hanging from my chest, opposite my armpit.  I didn't know what it was and pulled it off.  After seeing the way it acted I knew it was an engorged tick and went and got antibiotics.  I had only seen pictures of plain ticks  on the computer and this was just a sack.   I was not familiar with dog ticks because we did not have pets, just barely enough food for us, say nothing of feeding many animals.  I was relieved to read you had seen them on your dogs.  I also used to call the Blue Jays vacuum cleaners when they overran my bird feeder after chasing the small chickadees and wrens away.

I enjoyed Thanksgiving at my daughter's with her three girls, her friend, my son and wife, and one of two grandsons.  After sixty years of being the hostess I have passed the torch to the next generation and only took a dish of squash.    I did remark at the dinner table that we disagreed with a survey listing the most despised Thanksgiving dinner items .  1st-canned jellied cranberry sauce; 2nd-sweet potatoes; 3rd-green bean casserole.
We were enjoying 1 and 3 and 2 would have been very welcome if someone had served them.  I hope every one had a delightful Thanksgiving experience and may the ensuing holiday season remind us all of the real meaning
of it.  Today is black Friday and my car is firmly parked in the garage, I could never handle the crowds and I don't  buy much extra any more.
by Beulah Cramer G2G6 Pilot (571k points)
I have a funny story about cranberry sauce to share with you, Beulah. When our children were young, we always served the canned jellied kind as that is what the children liked. Fast forward many years: son got married and she is a fantastic cook. First Thanksgiving she served homemade cranberry sauce - you know, the kind that has the actual berries. They sat down to dinner and my son was aghast that there was no canned jellied sauce. After that, they had both kinds!
I agree, those dishes are all lovely and welcome at my table. I do enjoy making my own cranberry sauce but the canned kind reminds me of childhood thanksgivings when we always had a fancy dish with that can shaped delicacy sliced into perfect delicious rings ready to fix up that dry white turkey meat.
The same reason we always had jellied cranberry sauce.  The kids and Dad liked it best.
@Erin & Beulah, my grandmother always served the jellied. And nowadays, given problems with the exopancreas, I cannot eat the homemade sauce because the berries cannot be digested. Nevertheless, there was so much food, I did not miss the cranberries.
Carol, I'm glad you could enjoy enough to eat without cranberry misery.  I think whole cranberry is hard to digest
when it is raw, just like corn is to me.  Live and learn as my mother would say.

yes Had some jellied berries for lunch

Beulah, because of the deer, I don't go anywhere near the woods that surround the house. Where I grew up, ticks abounded, but these up here aren't the same. I'll just sit and watch the deer share them.

 1st-canned jellied cranberry sauce: Yes, also 1st on my survey!

I use dried cranberries in a lot of recipes, breads, muffins, granola,  desserts  etc.

Cranberries at Thanksgiving and Christmas have been made from scratch at times and canned at other times.

I like cranberries but not with dinner!
+24 votes
I am in Seattle visiting my son and daughter in law.  It is sunny and in the Pacific Northwest, that is a blessing.  How beautiful when the sun shines!  We got into a long discussion about genealogy and I got permission to do my daughter in law's family which has a high southern Colorado Hispanic component. So now I am going down that rabbit hole starting with the creation of a couple cemeteries that have never been profiled before.  What fun.
by Gurney Thompson G2G6 Pilot (468k points)
Hi, I was in Seattle twice when I went on a cruise to Seattle so most of what I saw was on a bus.  We did stop at the Space Needle and the Fish Market but it was too cold to enjoy and it was raining.

Hi, We are going into are cloudy season here in Ohio especially being so close to Lake Erie. We are close enough to get the clouds but far enough to avoid all the heavy snow they get. For instance, they might get 2 feet of snow and we will get 2 inches and we are only 45 minutes away.

It is nice you have family around my dad's side is long gone with the exception of a few people who live too far away. On my mother's they live about 4 hours away and that is just too far as well given the price of gas.
I miss Seattle and the Pacific NW, yes it truly is beautiful there WHEN the sun shines. I was always grateful my mother made it up there on one of the few clear days when I was stationed there and I could show her the beautiful panoramic mountain views.
Funny how rabbit holes just appear out of nowhere, Gurney. I'm pretty sure that most of us who've been on WikiTree for a while have fallen down a few (or hundreds).

Enjoy your trip!
I grew up in Seattle and waws used to the dark glowery afternoons with continual mist.  So when the sun shines there it really is a treat.  I could never bear that weather now, being used to Arizona blue skies almost every day.  Even clouds are notable.
Ah, my hometown!

I'll be back in Seattle in a few weeks- unlike a lot of people, the drizzle & grey skies are perfect weather in my book. It's mostly been grey & cold here in Chicago (clearer, blue skies earlier in the week), with only a little rain, but tomorrow morn it's expected to snow while I'm on my way back to Indiana.
+20 votes

On this day: 

1572: The Scottish minister John Knox dies

1642: Abel Tasman reaches the west coast of Van Diemen's Land

1848: Pope Pius IX flees from Papal State

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Hi Jelena, I think I will go with John Knox today. Thank you for these history lessons!
Cousin John 4c17r- who knew?
Ah yes. Blessed Pope Pius IX. He was awesome.
Interestingly, there was a second theologian named John Knox. The two would have never agreed on anything. So, this morning, I'll read up on Pius IX's vacation from the Vatican. Thanks, Professor!
My first thought is some rich guy that owns the retirement village (John Knox Village) in Lee's Summit. Way overpriced (IMO) but people I know that live there love it.
+15 votes

أهلا بالجميع. محطة هذا الأسبوع في الدول التي زرتها في الجولة العالمية المكونة من 15 دولة هي مصر. اللغة الرسمية هي اللغة العربية والتي تشترك فيها مع دولة أخرى في الجولة وهي سوريا. الحقيقة الممتعة هي أن مصر وسوريا شكلتا اتحادًا سياديًا يعرف باسم الجمهورية العربية المتحدة بين عامي 1958 و1961.

على واجهة Wikitree تستمر قائمة المراقبة الخاصة بي في الانخفاض الآن حيث وصلت إلى 5331 أو انخفاض بمقدار 57 عن الأسبوع الماضي. لقد تم الحصول على الكثير من هذه الملفات الشخصية من قبل وتم تحسينها بشكل كبير.

قد لا تكون هذه الترجمة دقيقة لأن اللغة العربية تقرأ من اليمين إلى اليسار بينما تقرأ اللغة الإنجليزية من اليسار إلى اليمين. لذلك قد يكون هناك بعض التناقضات

by Darren Kellett G2G6 Pilot (446k points)
Good job Darren, it translated well.  Egypt has such a rich history.
@Carol Baldwin: Have you ever checked out The University of Arizona's Science Library which has East Asian Texts and Documents? I used to shelve items there for extra funds in college.

Darren, amazing job on reducing your watchlist!
مرحبًا دارين، إنه لأمر رائع أن ترى كيف تصل للجميع لمشاركتك في الجولة العالمية عبر العالم

أتمنى أن تكون أنت وعائلتك قد قضيتم عطلة رائعة.
@Eileen: I have definitely checked these texts. After spending three years in East Asia, going through these sources brought comfort because I missed the lifestyle a great deal! It is so cool that you worked at the Science Library at the U of A. Such as amall world.
Google Translate to the rescue, and it worked perfectly. Darren, my watchlist is still hanging right at 5000. About the only way I am going to get rid of a lot of it is bulk-wise.
+23 votes

Hello from Germany,

where the weather is getting cold. In the mountains there will be snow the latest tomorrow, here I hope not yet to see snow tomorrow. According to my favourite meteorologist, the temps will fall during the night below the freezing point, but there doesn't seem to be much pouring here.

At home, it was a week of grief. My Serbian cousin who lived near the Hungarian and Croatian border, died on Wednesday. When we saw him this summer, we knew deep down (and not only deep down) that the alcohol will kill him eventually. When mum chatted with his sister last weekend and she said, she can't get him on the phone, mum called the friend of him where we had slept this summer. She told us that he is in hospital. So we kept in touch with her and on Wednesday she called and told us he died in the morning. 

When I heard of his death I dove deep into WikiTree to distract myself. I didn't do too much stuff where I really had to think about what to do, I mainly corrected German locations. That also can be challenging, but it wasn't this time. Aleš has a table that shows which location namings are approved by the database and which aren't, and how many of the different location namings (both approved and not) are in the database. Currently I often go into that table and work on not approved locations to get them approved.

Beside that I asked the Notables Project to get on the Trusted List for the profile of Angela Merkel's husband. This weekend I will write a biography for him to make him eligible for the "First Ladies Week" because of Rosalyn Carter's death.

I think that's it for today. Stay safe! Mum and I got our Covid shots this week, mum also her flu-shot.

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)

Thank you for sharing your cousin's story.  Talking about it has healing powers.   I know this pain.broken heart

I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of your cousin. I also find WT can be therapeutic when you need to immerse yourself in work. Always something to improve.
Hello Jelena, first I want to express my sincere regrets on reading of the death of your cousin. The losses of beloved family members are difficult to bear. Please know that I will keep you, your mum and your cousin's family in my daily meditations. There really are no words, though, that can salve a hurt heart. It takes time, tears, and knowing that others do care. I agree that WikiTree can be a source of therapy. Please take care and take time for yourself.
Sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, you are not alone, as he has joined countless others that I have known. Some family, some friends and many I worked with (counseled, supervised) for nearly 30 years. May time be kind and bring solace to you.
Jelena, I am so sorry to hear of the death of your cousin. Like you, I have turned to WikITree to get my mind off stuff, including deaths int he family.

As for the snow, 50% of our household is in favor of snow (that would be me).
Jalena, I am sorry for the loss of your cousin.  No death is easy even when you know it is coming.  It's not the same, but I was grieving the loss of my kitty this last week and cleaned up hundreds of Acadian locations!
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin, Jelena- my uncle passed this last week too, cancer, & it's been a week of some grief too. Glad you have projects to keep your mind on- I've been doing the same w/ my work on indexing Czech records this week.
Heartfelt sympathy on your loss of your cousin.  Just remember love transcends time and space.  Hugs to you and prayers for you and your family.
+21 votes
Hello Weekend Chatters!

Belated Happy Thanksgiving to all those who gathered together yesterday. Being a Canadian, we celebrated in October.

It’s fairly quiet as usual around here. Willow, one of my cats, is still recovering from surgery on his ear last Saturday. I believe that I mentioned it last week. He has to keep the cone on to protect his stitches for another week still.

I’m still busy with my own doctor’s appointments this month. Last week I saw my neurologist for my yearly visit. This week is my ophthalmologist. I have prednisone-induced glaucoma but so far it has been stable with drops since it was first discovered 8 or 9 years ago.

I did find out a couple days ago that my daughter (27) and her boyfriend (30) want to spend their first Christmas together at their place about a 2 hr drive from me. So, unless my son (24) comes over I will be alone on Christmas Day for the first time in decades if ever. We are getting together for supper Dec 26th but it won’t be the same as them waking up with me on Dec 25th. Life goes on I suppose

Today I have been busy trying to connect a Canadian Notable William George Beers to the main tree. (Have you ever tried doing a Google search for anyone with the last name Beers? It’s not easy to find anything not associated with the drink.) This has led me to dentists, doctors, politicians, and to date at least 2 Revolutionary War soldiers who became United Empire Loyalists (Hickey & Casselman). I have asked for help on G2G with these two as I am not very familiar with searching pre-USA records.

Hope that everyone has a peaceful, relaxing weekend! (((Hugs))) to all!
by Liza Gervais G2G6 Pilot (397k points)
I hope Willow recovers soon. Those cones are no fun for anyone. I do find that Christmas is different as an adult and sad in a way, there is no magic to the logistics of trying to spend enough time with all the parents and grandparents. I hope you don't end up lonely for the holidays but know we'll always be here for you. Sending hugs.
Hi Liza, I am sending healing intention for your kitty! I hope all of your medical exams come back negative. As to holiday and family, I can truly relate. All of my family is in Wisconsin and there have been a number of years where I have spent Christmas and/or New Years on my own. Naturally, I chat with family on these holidays, but phones aren't the same as 'presence.' I generally find something specialy to do or watch (like It's a Wonderful Life). Since I joined WikiTree a few years back, I also spend time working on the Tree. It's a different way of spending time with family, but it works for me. You take care!
Liza, we had our streak of Christmases together broken a couple of years ago. Kids get busy and have in-law families to please. We are hoping to have both of them, plus their husbands, here this time around, but nothing is set yet.
Lisa, I have people with the last name Beer, they haven't been too difficult, but they were all in the same tiny place Alton, Ontario.

It was the Early family that was difficult, try searching for Early family of a place here in Canada, or Early family history County Tyrone, adding first names or birth dates doesn't help much.
M Ross, this family of Beers was mostly in the Montreal area although a couple did end up in Ontario.
Our son and his family used to go to his wife's family doings and then come here for holiday feasts, way too much to eat in such a short time.   After we started going to Florida so Grandpa could play golf all winter we had a get together here, which is 1/4 mile from their home, in mid November.  The kids dubbed it "Cramer Holiday".  It served Grandpa's birthday, (Nov. 29), Thanksgiving, and Christmas.  All eventual grandchildren got to open their gifts and we enjoyed seeing the excitement.  And that allowed everyone to go to other places for the holidays later.  A nice compromise which could work in our particular circumstances.
+20 votes

Checking in from Bloomington, Illinois!  

I laid down to a nap after lunch today and woke up to BLACK FRIDAY FOOTBALL!   What!  SWEET! So far it's a nail biter Score: 0 to 0  I like it!

Genealogy: On my way to 1,700 contributions this month. Overall, I have to make 69 contributions more to have a total of 60,000 for my 2.5 years on WikiTree!  Most of the last 20,000 contributions were made fixing the screw-ups of the first 40,000....Sorry everyone!  I didn't know what I was doing!  I have an ongoing plan to fix every profile!  

The Book!   To make the 85,000 word count, I need to write 566.6 words every day to have the book finished in 150 days.  I have 1,500 so far after 4 weeks!surprise  I want to have it on the market by this time next year!  I was really struggling with ideas for a sub-plot!  Sitting in the recliner, underneath a nice warm blanket pulled over my head while sipping hot coffee and meditating on the story, 3 sub-plots came together in an instant.   1. The main story about my family and their adventures with the Underground Railway.  Subplots: 1 Evils of slavery and the characters involved sitting in the same church. 2. The family member(s) that betray my 2nd great grandfather and how that comes about 3. The other station master's struggles with the Knights of the Golden Circle.  And EVERYTHING collides in Des Moines, Iowa in November 1864, on my 2nd great grand father's farm.  But the story isn't exactly about that.  It is the story of my hero's struggles with PTSD, mental disease, extreme depression, the repression of guilt, and the transformation my hero has to go through to pull that guilt to the surface, understand the triggers that set my hero off and to face those demons head on which begins the healing.  My hero will go to the grave, still flawed, but wanting to live and love to the fullest!  This story first and foremost has to address mental illness and aids to cope with it.

I've got my work cut out for me! 

The above word count is a little over 320 word!   566.6 words a day for the next 150 days should be easy, right?  (it is that point 6 of a word that bothers me)sad

New Weekend Chat song coming next week.  I now have 3 song parody albums of 12 songs in each and 1 "New Release" coming next week.    

heartThank you Cousin Pip for all the love!heart

by David Draper G2G Astronaut (3.8m points)
edited by David Draper
Hi, I so understand about mistakes. Sometimes, I think I am the mistake, Queen.  Between my ADHD and my Written Expression Disorder, I am a mess.

Black Friday Football was great today my team the Dolphins won. So, I was happy. I hope you don't get mad at me but up above lost in chat I started Parody when we were talking about Alvin and the Chipmunks I couldn't help myself.  If you do not want to use you do have too my feeling won't be hurt ((hugs)))

We love the same football team!  Genealogy and ADHD go hand in hand!  So many ancestors, so many rabbit holes to get lost in. And, you are more than welcome to  write a song parody and post it here.  When I started posting funny poems and parodies, I posted them in the Tree House!  Wrong place.  Nobody understood me or my sense of humor.  Down votes and harsh emails were the result!  Weekend Chat is a much friendlier place and, while I still get a down vote or two each week, I now get emails encouraging me on!  That is like throwing gas on a fire!  I have become very fond of those posting here and I wish I had time to reply to everyone!  I don't know Pip keeps up with it all!  Share your creativity! This is the place!wink

Oh good us creative mins need to stick together. 

Ohh Now I know who to sing the Miami Dolphin Theme song to now :) Do you like Alabama?

Go Dolphins.!

Don't feel bad, David. I still come across profiles from when I joined 5 1/2 year ago that need attention.

Football? Bama v. Auburn today in the Iron Bowl. Roll Tide!

Really?  You get down votes?  I love your parodies and much admire your facility with words.  

Based on 2.5 years and 60,000 edits that's 65 per day.  I suggest that for every 566.6 WT edits, you write 566.6 words on your story.   Giving you an incentive and time to write.
@Cindy...Ahhh I get distracted easily.  I am trying to write as I type this.  I don't have writers block....its just so much fun here in Chat!  You are right!  I need to give my story ME!
David, whenever I read Bloomington, Illinois, it always makes me think of Colonel Henry Blake from M*A*S*H. (I’m sure you must have heard that before.)
I'm revising profiles that I created as far back as 2017 when I joined, I've learnt a lot about writing bio's since then, even if I'm a chronology type bio writer, a lot more record sets are online including 1950 USA and 1921 UK census, I saw what the pre-release version of Sourcer could do during a collaboration and loaded it on release then  discovered Wikitree Bee and followed transferred features to WBE.
 We now have much improved tools for profile creation, and a lot more readily accessible sources.

 I've been re-sourcing profiles created as far back as 2013 over the last couple of weeks, some adopted, some not.
Ah, I didn't know you were in Bloomington, IL! I'm based in the other Bloomington (Indiana), but have been meaning to travel over there at some point to visit my uncle & some other relatives.

I'm slowly working on fixing up all the profiles I made for my family when I first joined. I'm doing it in segments, so while my maternal grandmother's family looks pretty good now, the other sides still seem quite neglected, sadly.

As a folk music student, I love musical parody, & sometimes play around with it myself. I haven't tried writing anything for WikiTree yet, but may have to get around to it!

Your book sounds fascinating, as someone who only recently found out about my own family's involvement in the Underground Railroad in Wisconsin in the 1840s & '50s- I'd love to hear more about it.
@Thomas: Bloomington, Indiana is or was home to one of America's most talented sign crafters, Gary Anderson!  He wrote at least one book.  The very pretty hand carved or sandblasted redwood signs with gold leaf lettering you see in your city are either his or those who followed in his steps.  He was part of the Letterhead movement that broke away from apprenticeship system of teaching artists the sign craft. At one time, the art of sign making was a guarded secret.  Anderson and others held Letterhead meets to teach those secrets to anyone who showed up!  I was one of those who attended.  He broke away from using traditional oil base paints used on brick wall signs, which faded, and taught us to use latex paints.  The problem was, at the time, latex paints didn't have the color tones sign painters needed.  He went to the paint manufacturers, and worked to create those colors. Today, every paint store can mix any tone with any durability!  This was not so just a few years ago.  Those were the days I miss.

@Liza:  MASH  McLean Stevenson's ancestors are buried here not far from me! He was the great-grandson of William Stevenson (brother of US Vice President Adlai E. Stevenson

@Minecraft enthusiasts:  This was one of over 50 cities I created in my World, back in the day.  This city was so large I had to build arial towers to find my way around.  I discovered how to copy and paste an entire house which sped things up. Each house was fully finished with bathrooms!  I spared no expense!wink

David—
That’s very cool to know! While sign painting isn’t something I know very much about, I actually think I have heard of Gary before—his studio’s still in the area, but I think in the next county over. I may have to reach out to him, since I’d love to learn more about his work

My closest connection to sign making was my great-grandfather, who’s said to have been one of the better known goldleaf painters in Virginia in the earlier half of the last century. My grandmother wrote about how her father would drive all around the state doing jobs for people’s storefronts & the like. The back of his truck was hand-painted saying “H. E. GENTRY SIGNMAKER” or something like that, & had a brightly rainbow-colored peacock on it, which made the family joke that NBC had stolen it from him when they introduced the peacock logo in the ‘50s. Sadly, I never knew Eldridge, & whatever knowledge of signmaking was in my family was lost with him, but somewhere my father still has his desk & some of his tools.
Separately, re Minecraft—your city is very impressive!
I got down votes for suggesting they should be eliminated.  If someone is not adult enough to say why they disagree I really feel like down votes are an invitation to bully.  I am not a fan.   I think the only time they should be used is in voting for or against a proposal.
+23 votes
Hails and horns, Wikipeeps!

What a blast the last ten days have been! For those who don't know, I was visiting my brother and his family in Virginia for the last week for the holiday. We go to their house every Thanksgiving and they visit us every summer. We do Christmas via Facetime, too. We had a blast this year.

For Thanksgiving we had our usual turkey and lasagna dinner. Was good and filling. I made sure to leave room for dessert, too. I had a pretty good time.

But, that doesn't mean I haven't done any genealogy stuff. Nope. I wrote a blog about the ancestor who stayed home: https://allroadhaverhill.blogspot.com/2023/11/52-ancestors-week-47-this-ancestor.html

I should translate this week's blog and send it to my cousins. Would take a while, though.

In other news, I helped my sister in law's father with some genealogy stuff. Like my dad, he's all Italian all the time. The only difference being his family was from Sicily. I showed him some Sicilian records and he was very impressed with the work I did. I traced his Grammatico line back to the 1700s. I'll do some sprucing up later. Check it out: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Grammatico-79

Anyway, the flight back home was uneventful. The tv wasn't working. So, I just played Nintendo Switch. No biggie. There was someone else on the plane with a Switch. But, there was no way to connect.to 'em. Ah well.

I had a great time with the nephews who of course have surpassed me in video game skills. The students have become the master. Now I can't go easy on them. Sigh....

It was bound to happen sooner or later. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Remember to be thankful the rest of the year!
by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (775k points)
Ciao Cousin Chris, so great to know you had a fabulous time with family in Virginia. I am also very glad the flight was uneventful given the travel nightmares that generally occur during the holidays. And your point about being thankful through the year (and not just on one day) is so true! Thank you for the reminder!

Chris, this week's blog has to be one of your best. Really! I love how you honored the memory of Caterina. 

And, I hope you, using your fine detective skills, can find out more about the Astorino family. What a great addition that would make to all that you have discovered already.

@Chris:  I played Minecraft in creative mode for over 2 years, BWT ( before WikiTree).  I built an entre state of cities and towns, with 2 tunnels, north south and east west starting in the very center of the map, on level 31.  The north south tunnel was 120 miles long, with stairs leading up to over 50 communities. (Each block on my scale is 3 feet by 3 feet so the tunnel was every bit of 120 miles. At the center of the map above the tunnel entrance were government offices, above that level was a complete shopping mall, above that level was  huge buffet style restaurant, a Rain Forrest Cafe, indoor petting zoo and two luxury hotels off to the north and south, complete with finished rooms, toilets, showers, bedrooms, TVs .  I spared no expense! (A line from Jurassic Park) Well, Minecraft updated, and now would not open. We tried everything. My sons and grandsons could not make it work.  Covid  started, I found WikiTree. My grandsons now continue playing Minecraft, and they are doing things that boggle my mind! Sigh!
@ Carol: Ciao, Cousin Carol! I always say that because a lot of the times people are just plain rude the rest of the year. The worst is when someone's a jerk to you and suddenly they're nice. You expect them to continue to be nice and they go back to being a jerk. Not a fan of people like that!!

@ Pip: Glad you like the blog. It's tricky typing on an Ipad. I kind of wish I did headers before I left but it's fine. I'll do my best to find the Astorinos. I have Cristina helping me out there!

@David: My nephews are Minecraft addicts. They play the game a lot and got me into it. I have since made a giant fortress which right now goes up to 98 blocks and as far down as -62. I've created tunnels which lead to marine bases I've made and a few other giant caves.

I'm not sure how to do miles in that game. But, I'd be happy to show you screenshots of my world if you hop on Discord some time.

Sorry Minecraft gave you issues. Sounds like you had an epic world. =D Would be happy to share pics of mine.

@Chris. Each block in Minecraft is 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter.  However, two blocks stacked up is the same height as your avatar.  Soooo, in my thinking, 78 inches is way to tall for an avatar.  The avatar should be 6 foot tall, so two blocks stacked up would be 2 blocks of 36" x 36" x 36" each. 1760 blocks lined up is 1 mile ( the way I calculate it ) now take 1760 x 120 and that's  is how many blocks long the north/south tunnel was!  I didn't even  tell you how long the East/West tunnel was!surprise my world was as big as the area fom Bloomington Illinois to Chicago, north to south, and half as wide as the state of Illinois.   Now its the Lost World!  All that work was a waste of time.  I wish I found WikiTree before Mincraft

My daughter loves Minecraft but loses her work all the time (like, builds something then goes exploring in the world and can't find what she initially did) I don't think I could take the emotional turmoil!
@ David. Cool. The rooms in my fortress are 43 blocks by 43 blocks give or take. Each floor is six steps high. Though, I have one chamber that's really high up. I have a portal at 0,11, 0. My fortress is based around the center of the world. I have chambers going in all four directions so the base looks like a giant "+" sign from above.  I should move the nether portal to 0, -1, 0. I have no floor at 0, 0, 0 because I go up every six steps to a chamber.

It may have been a waste of time. But, it does sound like an epic world. I'll have to show you my pics.

@ Erin: It may be a good idea to make roads and sign posts. I do that and I never get lost. =D
+21 votes

Post tryptophan Friday in Rochester, Minnesota USA

Current Temp: 25°F (-4°C)

Wind Chill: 19°F (-7°C)

Clinical Life: I recently was promoted to a trained medication aide but I must get more comfortable in the new facility as a CNA. This involves teamwork, good communication and time management. It's hard work but I love it! 

Nursing School: Returning in August 2024

Genealogy: The cousin who contacted via Heritage DNA me wants me to come to East Texas! I'll have to pick an appropriate time to do a weekend trip in the future. I may get some tips on how to cook collard greens. 

Feast Days this Weekend: The Vietnamese Martyrs (24), Catherine of Alexandria (25), John Berchmans (26)

Thoughts: I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving (in the USA) filled with tryptophan, starch, greens and sucrose. I'm at the point when most holidays are just another day. My younger nieces and nephews are in Christmas mode yet it's not December yet! I can't think about my birthday (next month) yet either but Rochester is getting decorated for next month. 

Stay warm everyone!

by Eileen Robinson G2G6 Pilot (207k points)
edited by Eileen Robinson
Hi Eileen, we had our tryptophan at 5pm so the dip would be perfect timing for bed! Congratulations on your promotion! You should be very proud. I think most work in the health care field is hard work. Computers don't talk back, strike out, and such. I think young people get into the Christmas mode in October because stores are already setting up trees and decorations even before Halloween! Have a great rest of the weekend!

"I'm at the point when most holidays are just another day." We are getting to that point, too, Eileen. There's just not enough of us left to make a big deal out of holidays. 

Christmas has always just been the day before my birthday. Like my birthday, just another day between two Holidays. I know people who take off their "birthday week." I never did that and I could wrap two holidays around it. I was always more inclined to work the day after Christmas so my co-workers w/ children could take off. Probably why I am so flawed and can't relate to the simple pleasures of life. Then again, maybe my parents just said that so they wouldn't be expected to do much for my birthday. Or was it the tax deduction for 1957?

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My husband always took his birthday Boxing Day off work, and defined Boxing Day as the day after an event.

His father started the tradition as he said he was born on Pearl Harbour Boxing Day!
May your school break be restful. My kids are definitely in Christmas mode so I am binging holiday movies trying to catch up to their spirit
Funnily enough, I was reading about the Vietnamese Martyrs this week, as I reunited with my father, who was showing me photos & telling me all about a Cathedral devoted to them that's currently being constructed somewhere south of Seattle. Most notable about the building is the fact it's bright yellow.
+19 votes
Hello, friends. Today Everett, Washington was clear, sunny and chilly. The Christmas quilt for my daughter's friend was mailed this afternoon.

We have no turkey left. Only ham. Daughter and I ate all the meat that was on the drumstick that was misidentified as beef when I bought it. I prepared slaw, chopped broccoli stems, homemade mayonnaise, baked yams and a bit of celery stewed in chicken broth.

We had two guests last night, a young man from church and his father. Our young friend is going on pilgrimage to the shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico, to be there for her feast day Dec. 12.  

Today is one of my husband's busiest days at work. When people are not shopping, they bring relatives to the Boeing tour. He did balcony service at the factory today instead of tours.

This week I connected notables Lenny Randle and Conrad Veidt. Conrad Veidt was a two-for, as Emil Jannings was connected as well. After a deep dive into the process of connection, the watchlist must be pruned. So I am doing, but not sufficiently to bring it under 5000.

I was disappointed when I looked for Angelroths in Erfurt, Thuringia on Ancestry Library Edition. There were plenty of Angelroths, which in a way is a good thing, but none from the village of Ollendorf, about halfway between Erfurt and Weimar. Oh well. I guess I'll have to write there to make any headway on my brick wall, Marie Dorothea unknown, wife of Johann Michael Angelroth, born about 1790.

I must leave to prepare dinner. I am thankful for Wikitree. It helps me realize how we share all these people we love to research.
by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Pilot (324k points)
Margaret, we have no ham left, only turkey!

I find it sad that the further back I go in my family, the fewer women have surnames. I really dislike putting "Unknown" as a surname. Seems those women deserve more. If you find out anything about Marie Dorothea, be sure to let us know!
I'm wondering how the store took a turkey drumstick and called it beef??  LOL
@ Pip- What role did religion play in "Unknown" LNAB. The woman's traditional role as submissive /subservient to her church, husband and family. The whole, two becomes one with Holy matrimony. Very young women marrying much older men with the child bride's parent/parents' approval due to their inability to provide, for whatever reason. Think presentism.

Oh boy, I mean person: Do replies and comments generate down votes?
Questions and answers/replies can get downvotes but not comments
Probably why some only make comments on G2G and some (most) avoid it all together. In general, my interest in g2g is waning. I still engage as I am still learning. I also like to help those just starting out. But, as far as an exchange of ideas, it is best to fall in line and nod your head up and down.
I am so done with the Pfaff Performance Icon 5000. The last straw was this morning when the presser foot control would not work; none of the controls would. I have had it with thread shredding, bobbins winding on the spindle, skipped stitches while quilting. I feel as if I had bought a Rolls Royce because it could do all manner of cool things, but realistically I have no use for them. So with regret and chagrin at myself, I am going to trade in the thing and get a machine I can carry by myself, with mechanical controls, with fewer functions, just to make straight stitches and the occasional zigzag. I don't even care how long the arm is. I am still working on the St. Thomas Aquinas rice bag quilt, and handwork is slow but at least it looks good.
I still use my Singer Genie that I got as a 21st b-day present many, many years ago. I can carry it with one hand, the case slides into the machine at the bobbin case and at the hand wheel.

I bought my oldest daughter what I thought was going to be a relatively simple machine when she was pregnant  with her first child in 2009, she wanted to make a baby quilt and wall hangings.

The instructions, as are many for more current equipment tells you all about the machine; this is what it is used for, these are the safety guidelines but has no how to, what to do instructions.

Ah, the Boeing tour! I've done it at least a couple times.

I miss the PNW- thankfully will get to be back in Seattle in a couple weeks.

My folks don't do ham, but the last of the turkey was used up tonight, thanks to my uncle, who made turkey pot pies. The usual sweet pies (pecan, apple, pumpkin), & the pumpkin cheesecake for my uncle's birthday, were gone yesterday (including a piece of my pecan pie I'd deliberately set aside for myself... the culprit yet to be found)

+20 votes
Hello everyone. This week flew by.

Weatherwise in Canton Ohio.  It has been on the cool side this week upper 40's during the day to mid-20s at night. No snow yet, but we did have a few mornings with some heavy frost.

On the Genealogy front I didn't get too far as I wanted to finish submitting my ideas for the county fair next yes. Two of my ideas for the Junior (age 3-18) are to create a picture family tree and to display their grandparent's favorite toy, and write about it. I thought it would be a fun activity for them to do.

Since all the family is out of the state or ten feet under. My sister and I went to a local church and had dinner there. They do it every year for the community of people who don't have family to eat with.  I thought it was really nice and the food was good as well.
by Chris Wine G2G6 Mach 4 (50.0k points)
Chris, for years (until my wife and I moved up here) my mother and stepdad would go to the local Catholic church for their Thanksgiving meal. Once we arrived, things switched to their home. Mom was one of those who, like me, could talk to anyone and anything. Didn't matter whether she knew them or not.
Canton! I've got a bunch of in-laws around there, been meaning to visit for a while (& do some research).
+22 votes
Have missed everyone greatly these past few weeks! My brother and I took our mom on a Caribbean cruise so she could get in some memories with the grandkids while she is still semi coherent. The first bit was rough, since we had to do air travel to get to the port (Miami) and she was worn out by the time we got there and begging to go home. Once she was able to relax on the ship a bit and get used to where things were, she started to enjoy herself. We saw Aruba, Bonaire, and two ports in the Dominican Republic. I was even able to get in a tiny bit of genealogy related research on an Aruban cemetery and got to see some of their beautiful mausoleums.

    As for my Wikiwork, I have had to rely on my fellow greeters to cover for my shifts while I was with mom (we had no regular internet access). Looking forward to getting back into greeting and working in Appalachia. Have started in on the Appalachian challenge for this month. Better late than never, eh?

     I hope everything has been well with you chatters. Happy to be home, missed y'all.
by Erin Robertson G2G6 Pilot (159k points)
Welcome home. Sounds like you may have had more fun than most of us. The only fun I have had lately was a couple new downvotes. For the life of me, I can't figure out what I have said since the last time I was flagged.
I looked today and saw I have a total of 24 downvotes, I wish it was required to give reasons for downvotes.
I would like to know the comments that got downvoted. I'm not bothered by the vote, just curious. Mark Twain said if you catch yourself in agreement with most, you should look at why you think that way.  Something to that effect anyway. In today's society, I couldn't agree more!
Hi Erin, your vacay with your mom and brother sounds enjoyable and meaningful. It will be 4 years in January that my brother and I 'mum sat' because she was too cognitively impaired to go on my sister's family's much-needed vacay. I think you and your brother will have some extra special memories from this trip knowing that you gave your mom a great travel opportunity with who, I am sure, are two of her favorite people in the world. Given all that you contribute, you deserve a much-needed break from some of this Wiki-Work. You need to know though, that just your presence was missed by us! Welcome home!
I agree with "I'd like to know which comments (sic!) got downvoted." Yeah, the answers that got downvoted, that would be interesting. I know some of the topics where I regularily collect downvotes, but sometimes I just wonder what people didn't like.
How like a WikiTreer: find a cemetery far away and begin to research the families there. I have done the same, Erin.
New term:  Wikiwork.  I love it.  In the traditional sense of work, WikiTreework is not work at all, but usually a joy to do.

So nice you took your Mom on the cruise.  I'd love to do that with my children and grandchildren.  Everyone can find something to do yet still get good times together.
Re downvotes and disagreement- Two phrases I have overused when engaged in verbal conflicts in the past: "I would like to agree with you but, then I would think we were both WRONG" and "I know you think you are right but, you still have to go to jail today." That second one usually ended the conversation.
K, sometimes people don't mean to downvote as they have fat finger syndrome.

Many times people think it's similar to a' like' or dislike' your comment on other social media. They also get confused with picking a best answer.

IMHO, downvotes are warranted when the question or answer doesn't fit with WT policies and the honour code and the person does not wish to abide by WT rules or discussion rules.

A frequent sort of question or answer that gets downvoted are those that say something like " why are people interfering  with My Tree, these people are not my ancestors, I just want to add my people and similar complaints .

Yes there are people who don't understand how WT works and their comments or  questions show that, usually it can be explained that they have misunderstood WT, and they don't get downvoted, the people who refuse to understand are a different matter.
I downvoted once by accident.  Hit the wrong button.  That was before I realized I could just pick the other button and the bad vote would go away. . . .
I have given 31 down votes; I can only remember a couple of intentional ones given. Worse than fat fingers, I have limited dexterity and WMD which effects depth of field. Couple that with a touch screen and using my thumb to scroll, I am a downvoting machine since I often hit the down vote or up vote when scrolling down the page w/o realizing it.

Up vote, down vote or no vote- it's all good. I usually vote on questions first and vote only answers where I voted on the question, and vice versa. I consider myself a conservative liberal or liberal conservative. It seems my more conservative comments garner the most flags and down votes. I'm OK with that. Just an observation.
Yeah... I've apparently given out eight down votes, which is more than I thought... pretty sure most of those were accidental, lol.

Simultaneously, I've apparently only received three, which is less than I'd expect, as I've definitely gotten into some disagreements on here & occasionally posted some things that I'd say were more intentionally abrasive than normal, usually whenever I think something needs to get done & isn't.

Oh well, I also almost never check those stats- probably won't start making it a habit now.
People give down votes? I've never given one, except maybe by accident as Cindy mentioned. If a post doesn't impress me I just skip it, as on Facebook.

I did just give someone a "best answer" star by accident ..I know we are not doing that, but clicked it to see what it was!
+16 votes

On this day:

1918: The Great People's Assembly of Serbs, Bunjevci and other Slavs in Banat, Bačka i Baranya takes place

1936: Germany and Japan sign the Anti-Comintern Pact

1973: Elisa Leonida Zamfirescu dies, one of the first women with an engineer degree

by Jelena Eckstädt G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Think I'll read up on 1918 this afternoon, Professor. Looks interesting. Thanks!

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