“TWO INJURED WHEN PLASTER FALLS IN P. 0”

Question

Hi Wikitreers,

I have a Miss Mabel L. Hawley granddaughter of Civil War Veteran of the 106th New York Vols  Prescott J Hawley (1824 - 1901) and daughter of Harry H. Hawley and Frances Kilburn. She has some interesting deep roots in Franklin County New York as her maternal grandfather Henry Gardiner Kilburn (1824 - 1899) was the district attorney and there seems to be notables in the lineage (more research is needed). The mother Frances (Kilburn) Hawley (1856 - 1913)  was very active it’s said she would of made an excellent attorney. The mothers obit is wonderful and you can get a sense she was just like her father in so many ways a real “daddy’s girl”?

There is a very interesting article as Miss Mabel L. Hawley worked as a Money Order Postal Clerk about an accident on her job. The article is titled “TWO INJURED WHEN PLASTER FALLS IN P. 0”. It appears she survived but I need collaboration in finding her obit and date of death especially her memorial.

I’m assuming she never married the title of “Miss” being attached to her in both of her parents obits.

There is another Mabel in the same area so don’t want to create conflation

Thank you

Answer 1

Andrew, can you find anything on the other Mabel in that same area?  I'm not finding another in that area just conflicting records on transposed death dates of either Jan or Feb 1967. Census records line up for her (father listed as Harvey on one but is same family) and around her parents times of death.  Appears to never have married and death records as Hawley.  Birthdate of 15 Dec 1877, New York appears correct and a ship's log for a trip a Mabel Hawley took with same birthdate states NY, NY as birth place. I cannot locate that birth/date from what is on the NYC index from that time period or otherwise in NYS (which is as you know very limited for time).  Doesn't appear to have a Find a Grave would most likely be in Morningside in Malone with her parents there is a large family stone/small individual markers.

Adding: Her obit was in the Watertown NY Times, 1967, but I am getting 404's on Fulton Search for all postings of it there.  She was 89, died at home on Washington St. in Malone is the most I can read - the headline "Miss Mabel Hawley Dies" . (The family census records were for Washington St.)

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Thank you will follow up soon

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I found this on family search not sure if same person bio reads as follows:

When Mabel L Hawley was born in 1878, in Malone, Franklin, New York, United States, her father, Henry G Hawley, was 22 and her mother, Frances Vilette Ives, was 14. She lived in Franklin, New York, United States in 1920 and Malone, Malone, Franklin, New York, United States for about 10 years. She died on 11 February 1967, in Malone, Franklin, New York, United States, at the age of 89.

Name: Mabel L. Hawley
Sex: Female
Age: 2
Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Birthplace: New York, United States
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Relationship Code: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: New York, United States
Mother's Birthplace: New York, United States
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Malone, Franklin, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Malone, ED 92, Franklin, NY, United States
Household Identifier: 10640686
Person Number: 2
Sheet Letter: D
Sheet Number: 683
Sheet Number and Letter: 683D
Volume: 1
Affiliate Film Number: 0834
Affiliate Line Number: 00079
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

Household     Role     Sex     Age     Birthplace
H. H. Hawley     Father     M     25     New York, United States
F. W. Hawley     Mother     F     23     New York, United States

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ87-3J9 : 14 January 2022), Mabel L. Hawley in household of H. H. Hawley, Malone, Franklin, New York, United States; citing enumeration district , sheet , NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm .

Mothers name seems not to be a match? No FindAGrave memorial? The obit can’t find link to

This is possibly another Mabel ?

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I just got one of the 3 copies of the Obit on Fulton to come up - hopefully will work now.  She was cremated no funeral. There is the Fulton stamp in front of part of this very tiny article (bottom of page) which looks to say only relative cousin former congressman Clarence ? of Malone.

Link to Obituary 

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I think it is she but they have the bio wrong.  Her mother was Frances Kilburn not Ives per the Find A Grave listing with her father.  

Frances Vilette Ives was the mother of about 5 children, including one named Mary (closest name) born 1883 in either Yonkers or Orleans, NY she seems to be the mix-up with Mabel's info.  This Mary was married to a Walter Farrell. France's husband, Mary's father, was also a Harry H. Hawley.  They lived in Rochester.

Edited: 1930 Census for Mabel's family on Washington St. (post mother's death) has her father listed as Harvey or transcribed as such (sorry not Henry/Harry).  Need to find on FS.

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The father and brother were twins causing some challenging genealogy I’ve noticed on familysearch

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Definitely challenging.  Whoever made that tree added Mabel as the first child of a family she didn't belong to. 

Mother of Frances was Sophronia Kilburn, I corrected her surname on the 1900 Census in Malone where Harry, Frances and Mabel were living with her.  

Frances had a brother Frederick Douglass Kilburn , per Find A Grave, states he was the father of Senator Clarence Kilburn (who I am guessing may be same as a former Congressman Clarence in the Obit... without more research on him.)

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A definite case of conflation oh boy!

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Adding in the pieces connecting slowly but feel free to improve upon the group. I added Frederick etc

edit: evidently he was already on wiki so I adopted his profile Clarence Evans Kilburn (1893 - 1975) and his wife Elizabeth Anne Crooks (1893)

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That's great! Conflation and confusion, so glad you questioned Mabel.

I added Mabel and Harry to Frances Kilburn on Frederick Kilburn's tree on FS as well as some of their sources so at least some of it is together there.

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Thank you and Frederick is a notable and has a Wikipedia page; their might be more in this tree.

Edit: it appears Miss Mabel is the end of the line. No siblings and only child and she never married or had children

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Yes, Mabel is the end of that line.  I think we were both editing her at the same time, sorry about that, I went back in and added her sources and a link to her obituary and fixed the dates.  NYS Death Index and obituary date reference have her dying on Saturday (11 Feb 1967),  the SS says Jan 1967, Feb appears to the be correct death date.

Interesting family, great to find a notable along the way.  

Adding: the Wikipedia article lists Frederick's daughter Alice R. Kilburn only as Mrs. Ward B. Castle, her husbands name was Ward C. (Church) Castle -  he was a banker listed in google book here has some of their bio/family info.

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Very good find on the obit!

The son Clarence was a congressman and his father Frederick a senator from New York per Wikipedia

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Obits can be great at pulling info together, glad that was helpful.

On that Castle husband (above) I found his grandfather on WT at Castle-3449 (Family Search tree at: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/descendancy/MW5C-ZQX)

His father, Charles Summer Castle is missing between. Adding them should connect all to the big tree.  A lot of offspurting branches from both the Hawley/Kilburn sides.

Edited to add: I added profile for Frederick's daughter Alice and have added those missing in her husband's Castle line to that point. Will connect the two. Should connect all to tree.