Spanish and Related Naming Conventions

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So I've been doing some research into Mexican lines, and there appear to be some differences in the ways LNAB are represented with the different Spanish-related profiles on WikiTree. This may be fine, but it makes it very challenging for someone like myself who would like to get these as accurate as possible, but feel like there are many double-standards out there. For example:

1) Father LNAB <space> Mother LNAB

2) Father LNAB y Mother LNAB

3) Father LNAB <space> Mother LNAB (followed by additional names)

Do all Spanish-related countries follow the same standard, or should we be adjusting based on country of origin? For example, does Mexico use #1, and Puerto Rico use #2? Or are there #4 and so on as well that differ from others?

I'm looking for a guide that can help definitively let us do the LNAB's accurately. If we have to lean towards a particular guideline, I'd prefer we did it the way the government tends to manage things as opposed to more personal "this is the way my family always did it" as those standards would be all over the board. Source documentation always seems to lean towards #1 as the proper standard, but I'll wait for comments as this is definitely not my area of expertise. Thanks!
in The Tree House by Scott Fulkerson G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Looks like this helped me find this guide:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Spanish_Naming_conventions

And it appears I was correct - #1 seems to be the standard. Hopefully this is the same across all Spanish-related countries.
The Find/Search function does not collect the (name space name) and (name y name) variants, so it means that to find duplicates, you would either have to search both ways (and then some) for potential duplicates, or use something like WikiTree+ to manually work through the list of potential candidates to determine if you might have a duplicate. A bit frustrating, but forewarned is forearmed.
Rubén helped me with that problem:  search the father's surname with an asterisk, like García* which catches a lot of variations.

Edit for clarity.

Yes, without a doubt. Non-standardized spellings and surnames conventions are challenges that can be overcome in part by incorporating wildcards (*) in the LNAB when searching for individuals in FamilySearch (FS). The wildcards will pull up variant spellings and compounded surnames. Examples of common LNABs that incorporate wildcards in FS:

  • Hernández = *ern*
  • González = gon*ale*
  • López = lope*
  • Álvarez = al*are*
  • Villaseñor = *illa*
  • García = gar*ia*
  • Jiménez = *imene*
  • Juárez/Suárez = *uare*
Sadly, I'm not sure that works in a standard WikiTree search, but I'll definitely start using that within FS. I tried some wildcards in the WT search and I think it doesn't interpret them properly. I'll play around with it a bit more to be certain. I'll also look it over in Ancestry to see what happens there.
Scott, did you put * in the WikiTree Search First Name field? That plus *ern*z in Last Name (for example) seems to work quite well.

I don't know Scott, I use them all the time and it catches a lot of variations.  It doesn't work as well if I use 2 * in one search but if I put it in the front or the back, it catches most of the multiple surname variations.  Using ? to look for spelling variations works too.  However, the searches seem to be doing a lot better at picking up spelling variations.

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I don't know about Mexico, but in Puerto Rico names were written as #2 for centuries, but in modern times they are written as #1. You might see records that refer to the same people using both naming conventions at a certain point in time, most likely at the turn of the 20th century.
by Robert Ocasio G2G1 (2.0k points)
Sounds like this is a complicated situation, made even more so by the potential that as we grow more profiles in these areas that we'll have to be very careful about duplicates that could be named just slightly differently enough to not show up in a standard search.
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Unfortunately, as Robert Ocasio pointed out, it depends on the country and timeframe, even after civil records where established in most of them and also of the type of doumentation you have available - church, civil or legal records.

For instance in my country, Argentina, in the 1800' to mid-1900', in both church and civil records only the fathers' last name would be used but in other documents both the father and mother's last names would be used. This was mostly done by the upper/middle classes (as a mark of their social status). Lower classes had only one last name - if any. Many descendants of african slaves and native laborers did not have a last name recorded until mid-1800'.  

Other countries of Latin America were more consistent with the 1) form.

The 2) form is still used today in legal jargon, like inheritance documents.

Also since the Catholic Church (main religious influence in Latin America, up to the 1900') follows its own rules that not always match each country's laws, you may find that the names in church and civil records don't match exactly at times. EG:my mom was not baptized as a child because their parents were freethinkers, so when she wanted to marry my italian dad in church, she had to be baptized first, and the priest decided her first name was not "catholic enough" and used the saint of the day instead, so for the catholic church I'm the daughter of Victorio and Cecilia instead of Victorio and Roswitha.

PS: I'm sorry I can only add to the confusion...
by Cristina Corbellani G2G6 Mach 7 (77.5k points)
Sounds like this is a complicated situation, made even more so by the potential that as we grow more profiles in these areas that we'll have to be very careful about duplicates that could be named just slightly differently enough to not show up in a standard search.
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In colonial New Mexico, there is no rule other than they rarely used both parents' names combined.  Their LNAB would usually be the father's surname (there are exceptions, of course) but once adults, they used whatever they wanted:  father's surname, mother's surname, grandparents' surname, an honored grandmother from 3 generations back (see the Baca women who used the surname Ortiz for at least 3 generations).  Duplicate profiles are the worst problem we have - sometimes I feel like all I do is request merges and then process them.
by Marcie Ruiz G2G6 Mach 6 (61.3k points)

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