Where are the NZ Forces at Gallipoli?

Question

I am looking for a Category for NZ ANZACs who served at Gallipoli. The Category "Gallipoli Campaign" has lots of sub-tags for Australian forces and battles but I don't see any for New Zealanders.

Am I missing something or is this something that needs to be added.

Thanks

Phil Norton

Answer 1

Australians and New Zealanders are linked in the Anzacs project - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Gallipoli_Campaign -- there are separate stickers for each nationality. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Anzacs_Project

The New Zealand war categories are here - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:New_Zealand_Army%2C_World_War_I

The WW1 categories are in this sub-category - 

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:New_Zealand_Division%2C_New_Zealand_Army%2C_World_War_I - 

HOWEVER this may be what you are looking for - 1st New Zealand Expeditionary Force (1NZEF) 1914-1921 - Formed at the outbreak of the First World War under the command of General Alexander Godley. It was initially made up of two brigades: the New Zealand Infantry Brigade and the New Zealand Mounted Rifles Brigade. The NZEF was closely tied with the AIF (Australian Imperial Force) and during the infamous Gallipoli campaign joined with them to form the famous ANZAC Corp.https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:1st_New_Zealand_Expeditionary_Force --- add  : Category:1st New Zealand Expeditionary Force

It was the 1st NZ Infantry Brigade that went to Gallipoli - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:1st_Infantry_Brigade%2C_New_Zealand_Army%2C_World_War_I

So far as I know, there is no independent sticker that indicates service in Gallipoli; it may be appropriate to ask for one. Those who survived Gallipoli went on to see further service in the Middle East and France. 

The Anzac Sticker is used by both Australia and New Zealand Projects outside its historical context; now commemorating all from Australia and New Zealand in active service overseas. 

Comments

Thank you, Valerie, for providing all that information!

With the category for the Gallipoli campaign - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Gallipoli_Campaign , it doesn't seem to be country-specific. It would be great to add the New Zealand battalions that are relevant and battles that aren't there already as sub-categories, also any pages that are relevant. It looks to me like the profiles categorised to the Gallipoli Campaign category already include those who served for New Zealand. The main thing would be to liaise with the Great War project.

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Thanks Valerie, for your detailed answer. I have looked at the NZ Army WW One category and it is pretty general and does not recognise Gallipoli at all. It seems to me that if it's good enough for a lot (if not all) of the Australian forces present to have sub-categories then we should have some for the NZ Expeditionary Forces that were there. I was thinking quite specific as my grandfather was with the Wellington Rifles, 9th Hawkes Bay Regiment, in the 4th reinforcements but it doesn't need to be that specific. It occurs to me to look at medal categories as all those that served at Gallipoli got the Gallipoli Star. That might be quite general too though.

Off to look ...

So it is of course the 1914-15 Star & is a Category. It was awarded to all British Empire troops at Gallipoli. It's something but not what I was looking for

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The NZ Forces that went to Gallipoli were gathered from the existing Regional Forces in NZ; as you describe here.

I wrote a space page some time ago, to collect all those pre-WWl regiments & describe their history & name changes post 1914, but cannot locate it at the moment. It looks to me as if all the regimental categories are post 1914.

It would be good to have a collection of pre-WWl NZ Armed Forces categories.

The Anzac Sticker plus a link to individual Army Records is all I do at the moment for Gallipoli, found the lack of a specific Gallipoli cat. too bothersome to deal with.

I think a NZ Gallipoli Space Page would be the best place start, this would enable to get all info gathered in one place & organized before working on a category system. This, knowing that Regional Regimental IDs were amalgamated early in 1914 as the NZ Expeditionary Force was organized.

On a similar theme -  A good place to start might be a parallel category for the Expeditionary Force that went to Samoa in 1914

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoa_Expeditionary_Force

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The reason that there are no New Zealand associated categories in the Gallipoli Campaign category is quite simple. No one has added the Gallipoli Campaign as a "Parent Category" yet. 

I have added the Category: Wellington Infantry Regiment, New Zealand Army, World War I to the Gallipoli Campaign category as an example (Mostly because I know LTC William George Malone died during the campaign). I don't know the full "Order of Battle" of those New Zealand Regiments that did fight there so haven't added more but it is easy to add them once confirmed. 

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Thank you Darren; added a link to the Gallipoli Campaign Category to my answer above so others can find it in relation to this question.

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That's great, thanks Valerie/Darren

I have a copy of Pugsley's "Gallipoli - The New Zealand Story" that would fill in the details on a Space page if I ever got the time.

It is interesting visiting the Lone Pine Cemetery at Gallipoli. I have always thought of that as an Australian memorial but a good half of the monument is covered in Wellington Regiment names.

Edit: Great to see there are already 19 profiles in the Wellington Regt category!

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Lone Pine was - IS - an ANZAC memorial, not an Australian one.