Catholic Baptism, Protestant Godparent? Am I understanding this latin baptism entry correctly?

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Francis Dearlove, the son of Francis Dearlove and his wife Anastasia Hunt  were  from known Catholic families (according to the published work of a local historian) . The manor of East Hendred where they lived  and occupied copyhold land was  owned by the Eyston family . The Eystons had been there since  the middle ages and remained Catholic after the reformation.  (this is also said to be  true of the Hunts.)   Though there was a C of E parish church, but the  Catholic chapel at East Hendred  is one of only three pre reformation chapels in England that have never had a protestant service.  

Francis Dearlove's baptism was actually recorded in the  C of E parish register. It may have been an emergency baptism as it was conducted on the day he was born.s 

Francis married Jane Bans in London inn 1829 (in a C of E church but this was before a Catholic service was possible)  She was the  daughter of Peter Joseph Bans and his wife Antoinette Bigay. Peter was a weaver, he lived in Spitalfields and other nearby parishes in the East End of London. He had  at least 9 children all baptised in the local parish churches. (at my guess he was the descendant of a Huguenot weaver)

After Catholic emancipation, several of Francis and Jane's children were baptised at the Catholic chapel in Stonor, Oxfordshire.

I'm reading the entry for son Alban to indicate that Peter Joseph Bans and Antoinette Bans were Godparents but

1) am I reading it correctly

2) could they be Godparents, if they were Anglican?

Baptism of Alban Dearlove, Stonor, 1836 sharing link

in Genealogy Help by Helen Ford G2G6 Pilot (474k points)
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You are reading it correctly, they were godparents, represented by proxies. I don't know what the qualifications would have been.

A Roman Catholic baptism within days of birth, and sometimes on the day itself, was common. For example, on the image for Albanus most of the baptisms are within 1 or 2 days of birth.
by Andrew Millard G2G6 Pilot (120k points)
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Thank you,

I'm glad I got the latin right. (O level 1968 +  failed teach yourself how to read manorial records leaves uncertainty)

Today it appears that one godparent needs to be RC, other sponsors just need to be baptised maybe the newly emancipated church was even less rigid.
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I have researched and put on wikitree information about a number of Catholic ancestors and relations of this period. One thing I have found is that information about Catholics sometimes appears in Anglican registers. For example, the profile of a brother of one of my ancestors: Samuel Caley-347 includes the following text written on a page at the end of the local Anglican register: 

"Memorandum inserted this Fourth Day of Seper. in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred, by the particular Desire of Mr. Saml. Caley Gentleman & Margaret his Wife, of Upp Hall in this Parish, who being of the Persuasion of the Romish Church, the children of S. Saml. & Margaret were not Baptized according to the Form of the Established Church of this Kingdom, but in Order to ascertain the Ages of their Children, they are hereunder written agreable to their Births. By me,Alexr. James Smith Rector:" This is followed by a list of the names and dates of birth of Samuel's 7 children and 4 grand-children. I got this information from the scan or microfilm of the original register, accessible on findmypast. However, familysearch, which does not include a scan or microfilm, simply presents these records as ordinary Anglican baptism records. I have found several similar situations from Anglican registers of this period. 

I have looked up your Francis Dearlove-351 on findmypast, and found 2 versions of the record, one giving the date of birth, the other the same date as the date of baptism. Unfortunately, neither version has a scan or microfilm attached, so it remains uncertain what the original actually says. You should try to find out. 

Martin C Styan-40
by Martin Styan G2G1 (1.5k points)
Thank you.  No doubt this branch of the Dearloves were Catholic. I think my biggest question is about the Bans from Spitalfields. We always associate French weavers in this part of the East End with the Huguenot diaspora, baptisms  for this group in the Anglican church wouldn't be unusual; but as I asked, could they then have been RC god parents?.

Maybe the Bans were later emigrants and though Catholic baptised their children on the parish church.

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