Where can I find early Philadelphia, Pennsylvania settlers that weren't on Penn's boats?

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I know there's a group for Early settlers in colonial Philadelphia, Penn. but I haven't been able to trace my ancestors past their cutoff date, therefore I can't join that group.

My Collins ancestors were probably Irish, some seemed to be indentured servants. The Collins family is related to the Coffees in Philadelphia, but I suspect they were owned by the Coffees who had a boarding house.

Can anyone help me find a group or person to help me break the wall? Or other early Philadelphiaites to compare my dna/tree to.

The last ancestor I can find was Charles Collins Sr. born in 1788  in Kent, England (but was probably Irish) - died 1852 in Pennsylvania. I have Irish ancestry not British ancestry.

I'm researching this ancestor because there are conflicting records regarding his parentage.
WikiTree profile: Charles Collins
in Genealogy Help by Melissa Taveras G2G6 (6.4k points)
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It looks like Charles had a grandson Passmore? Just throwing this out there: a Joanna Passmore married Joseph Hayes in Chester County, PA (it’s near Philly) and had a daughter Jane Hayes who married James Collins.
by Barry Smith G2G6 Pilot (296k points)
Thank you, I'll definitely look into that.
They lived too early maybe. Just a coincidence then.

I found some wonderful naturalization documents for some relatives who came to Pennsylvania from Ireland around 1800. Have you looked in the Family Search catalog to see if your Collins’s might have made such records?
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Charles Collins Sr was born about 1788 in Kent, England, and immigrated to the USA in 1929 at the age of 41.

I think the century is incorrect on that immigration date. Also, I am not sure that 1820s constitutes "early Pennsylvania", since Wiliam Penn came in 1682, and the colony was well established by the 1770s (as evidenced by Philadelphia playing such a prominent role in the early US government). 

War veterans of the revolutionary war were receiving land in Ohio in the early 1800s, so the frontier was no longer really in Pennsylvania at that time. I think you might have luck just looking at census records, they list individuals starting in 1850, but have heads of house before that. Charles should have been in the 1830/40/50 federal census.

by Jonathan Crawford G2G6 Pilot (281k points)
The immigration date is correct, it was pulled right from immigration records and boat manifest at Ellis Island and other records match it.

I understood that the it doesn't qualify as Early Pennsylvania *as far as I've been able to trace this. There are other ancestors that might have been from the "early" period, I'm trying to trace farther back than I have. Which is why I asked to match to other profiles. And hear productive ideas. I might have ancestors from the "early" period that I haven't found yet, thank you very much. Your response seemed so snobby and dismissive of the fact that I've been researching this for over two years.

I've checked a bunch of census records already, thank you.

I am not attempting to be snobby or dismissive, simply to help find the truth. It says he was born in 1788 and was 41 in 1929 (141 years later). It also says he died in 1852, so if you have Ellis Island records that cant be him. Ellis Island did not start operating until 1892. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island

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