Please help this one is driving me nuts

Question

When I started out I had reasearch that was given to me by my mother's cousin who had spent a lot of time reasearching this line of family I used that as a guide and found other sources but there was a problem with the name she had given me Yanicken and sources I found had Janikee (both wife of Lourentz and daughter of Cornelius with death after her husband in 1753) I thought it was either a mix up in the name because I could find no information on a second wife for Lorentz and everything I could find at the time on Cornelius had either dauther Janikee or Yanicken but not both. I went ahead and added her thinking I'd sort out the right name later and now going back and trying to find more information I'm more confused than ever. The find a grave has them listed as sisters (I have found Many mistakes on find a grave and most by the one manager who's account is closed , who did one of these memorials , there is no stone for either no source and when I wrote to the one managers with an open account no response ,so cannot get information there) have found Cornelius will that mentions daughter Fannersie and anouther Williaminse ( after that comma and wife of Lorentz Hendriks so ??) but No Janikee. I believe it is possible he had two wives but still don't know for sure and again no sources for him mention two . any help would be greatly appreciated

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Not much hel but SAR has Jenneke (Jane) TYson 

Name:	Jenneke Tyson
SAR Membership:	66163
Role:	Ancestor
Application Date:	11 Oct 1945
Spouse:	Lawrence Hendricks
Children:	Cornelius Hendricks

 

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Thank you

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What is SAR? I'm new. Is it Social Security? SSA

Thanks,

Karen

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Welcome to WikiTree Karen! SAR stands for Sons of the American Revolution, similar to the DAR, Daughters of the American Revolution.

Answer 1

Well, I'd like to say that this is helpful, but unfortunately I think the source is your Find-A-Grave writer. I'll put it here regardless...

https://familysearch.org/tree/#view=ancestor&person=KVJV-NT5

I started with her son, as I thought that might help lead to her name. I'll also offer:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:37KT-KNW

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:M49B-SGK

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:STWQ-BKL

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:9QJK-ZL8

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:STWQ-7L8

These are all the Family Search IGI and Ancestral DB entries - sometimes helpful - sometimes not. I usually check for the existence of sources and see if I can find the original sources in these like panning for nuggets of gold. Sometimes it pays off.

And last - I saw all kinds of children besides Cornelius Tyson - I'd recommend doing a similar exercise with all children - you're likely to come across other birth records, other death records, and possibly the gold mine of a will of a child who died before Mom where they name her somewhere.

Best recommendation I can come up with at the moment.

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Thanks, I guess I'll have to do that going with the children and check each one and cross my fingers that something will come up. I have Cornelius Tyson on at least two lines in my family and his information is hard to come by most of what I find on Tysons are for Ryner Tyson which is a differnt branch.

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I also saw below where her siblings were mentioned. I've also seen wills that reference Aunt-Uncles either as witnesses or as named for inheritence so that might be worth checking too.

Or Christening records. Those too. :)

Answer 2

I found this information. Hope it helps.

Cornelius Tyson

Birth:	Jan. 1, 1652, Germany
Death:	May 9, 1716 Pennsylvania, USA
Family links:   Spouse:   Margaret Theissen Tyson (1655 - 1716)*    Children:   Matthias Tyson (1682 - 1766)*   Alitie Tyson Conrad (1682 - 1758)*   Peter Tyson (1684 - 1739)*   Fanny Tyson (1688 - ____)*   Williaminse Tyson Engle (1690 - 1769)*   Janneke Tyson Hendricks (1691 - ____)*   *Calculated relationship   Inscription: Obijt Meiy 9. 1716.  Cornelius Tiesen. Salie sin de doon Die in den Here sterve  Theibric is haer Kron.  Tgloriric haer evve.   Note: Died May 9th, 1716. Cornelius Tyson. Blessed are the dead Who die in the Lord, Numerous is their Crown,Glorious is their reward. Translation of inscription from Dutch.

 

This is from find a grave.

 

 

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Have to put this in parts.

 

The J. Mark DeNicola's of Knoxville, TN:Information about Cornelius Tyson

Cornelius Tyson (b. Abt. 1652, d. May 9, 1716)

Cornelius Tyson (son of Theiss "Matthias" Doors and Neessgen "Agnes") was born Abt. 1652 in Krefeld, Germany, and died May 9, 1716 in Pennsylvania.He married Margaret.
 Notes for Cornelius Tyson:
Also named Cornelius (Theisen) Tyson Nessgen Doors
Cornelius Tyson, to whom has been assigned the number (1), is the founder of the Tyson ancestry in the United States.He is believed to have been born in Krefeld (Crefeld), Germany, in 1652.The emigrants, although they left Krefeld for the New World, were not necessarily born there.Some of the contingent that were among the founders of Germantown were from Kaldenkirchen (some twenty miles from Krefeld).Source: THE ANCESTRY OF THE THIRTEEN KREFELD EMIGRANTS OF 1683 by Wilhelm Niepoth.
Cornelius died 9 May 1716 and lies buried In Axe's Graveyard, Concord School, Upper Cemetery, among the early brethren of the Menno Simon faith, of which he was a consistent disciple.
The Hon.Samuel Whitaker Pennypacker, LL.D., in THE SETTLEMENT OF GERMANTOWN, writes, "Pastorius (Francis Daniel) erected in Axe's Graveyard at Germantown what is, so far as I know, the oldest existing tombstone to the memory of a Dutchman or German in Pennsylvania." Pastorius was a friend of Cornelius, wrote his will, and erected the stone to his memory.He died three years after the death of Cornelius.
The stone bears an inscription, probably composed
by Pastorius, as follows:
Obijt meiy 9, 1716
Cornelius Tiesen
Salic sin de doon
Die in den Here sterve
Theilric is haer Kroon
Tgloriric haer erve.
Translated:
Died May 9,1716 
Cornelius Tyson 
Blessed are the dead 
(Rev. 14:13)
Who died in the Lord
Hallowed is their crown
Glorious their inheritance
 

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The stone is still erect and legible in 1987.What a thrill to find it when I first visited Germantown early in my research for this work.On my visits to the cemetery it was necessary to obtain the key to the cemetery from the adjoining mortuary, as the iron gates are kept locked to protect it from vandalism.I found the cemetery well kept. (I could not find a marker for Margaret who no doubt is also buried there.)
The exact date of the arrival of Cornelius to Germantown has never been established by recorded data.However, I found that a number of researchers of past years concur on the date of his arrival as 1684.Among those, Alexander Dubin, in TYSON FAMILIES & COLLATERAL LINES, 1948, writes, "The exact date of his arrival is 1684 ... " In the 250th Anniversary of Germantown, 1683-1933 program, he is named as one of the settlers who came to Germantown in 1684.
Cornelius and Reynier Tyson are believed to have been brothers.Reynier, on whom much recorded data is available, arrived in Germantown in 1683 aboard the ship Concord.He was a Quaker and is buried in the Abington Meeting graveyard there.I could not locate his grave.Stones are small and records scarce or nonexistent. (Although I collected a great deal of data on Reynier and his descendants during my research for this work, I was not able to include it.)
Cornelius married Margaret - -. They named their eldest son Matthias, as did Reynier, which may indicate that THEISS and AGNES DOORS were his parents. (Read, The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants.) Two of their daughters are said to have married the sons of Thonis Kunders (see #2, BARBARA TYSON, dau. of #1, Cornelius) and Helene Thissen.
On May 9,1708, the first baptismal service was held at the Germantown Mennonite Church with Bishop Gottschalk baptizing eleven.Margaret, Cornelius' wife partook of the first communion held for Mennonites in America.
According to the DAR records of Mrs. K. Tyson Wharry of Norristown PA, #12417, " Cornelius Tiesen/ Tyson, 1651-1716, was a lawyer and a surveyor, who made the road from Plymouth to Germantown PA. Documents of verification of this statement can be found in the Library of the Univ. of MA. (This data submitted to me. I did not authenticate it.)

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According to his will, he was a weaver (as were numerous of his descendants, even into the fifth and sixth generations).This was no doubt a trade that he learned at a very young age.The raising of flax and the spinning and weaving of ft was most important to the prosperity of the new world settlers, as attested to by the following from Pastorius' ADDRESS TO POSTERITY AND ALL W'HO SHALL CONTINUE TO KEEP UP THIS LAND OR RECORD, "In conclusion, / may properly add with an appended N.B., for the information of those that are to follow, that Germantown's most prominent external prosperity, so far as it Is befitting to speak of such at this stage is due to flax raising, spinning and weaving, and doubtless by means of this little plant also in the future the poverty and want of many can yet be remedied, and for this reason it should be sown and cared for with becoming industry."
Watson, in ANNALS OF PHILADELPHIA, 1877, writes, "The women were always industrious, clothing their families in general by their own hands, - spinning and weaving for all their inmates, all the necessary linen and woolen clothing.For common diet, milk and bread, and pie, formed the breakfast meal; and good pork or bacon, and a wheat-flour pudding or dumplings, with buffer and molasses, were given for dinner.Mush or hominy, with milk, butter and honey, formed the supper."
Among those named by Pennypacker as having sent children to Pastorius in his Germantown school, were Cornelius Tyson, Tunes Kunders, Jacob Gottschalk, Arnold Fan Fossen, and Paul Engle.He also stated that few schools have ever had a more learned schoolmaster.
Watson says of him, "Francis Daniel Pastorius was a chief among the first settlers; he was a scholar, and wrote Latin with a good hand, and left a curious manuscript work called, 'The Bee" ('The Alvearium of Bee Hive' is the correct title) containing a beautiful collection of writing and various selections." He made Doctor of Laws at Muremberg in 1770, and combined within himself the various attainments of statesman, linguist, scholar, prose writer, poet and humorist.And yet he sleeps in an unknown grave. (This man who placed the beautiful, long lasting memorial marker over the grave of CORNELIUS TYSON, and did so much for the first settlers of Germantowni)
WILL OF CORNELIUS TYSON
Made 6 Apr 1716Proved 23 Jul 1716
In the name of God, Amen. I, Cornelius Tyson, of Germantown in ye County of Philadelphia, weaver, being sick and weak of body but of sound and disposing mind and memory.Thanks be to God therefore.Do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament.First of all I recommend my Soul unto ye Hands of God my Merciful Creator and Saviour, and my body to be buried at the discretion of myne executors.And concerning my worldly estate wherewith ye Lord hath blessed my endeavors in this province; Imprimis, to my wife Margaret all and singular the plantation, housing, cattle, and moveables, during her natural life.
To my youngest son, Peter Tyson, ye value of twenty pounds.
To all and everyone of my children, to wit: Matthias Tyson, Barbara, ye wife of John Cunrads, Alitie, ye wife of John Cunrads, Williaminse, ye wife of Lawrents Henritk, and the above Peter Tyson, after my said wife's decease, all and singular, mine estate.Nothing excepted, share and share alike.
Finally, in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this sixth day of April Anno Domini One Thousand and Sixteen.
(Signed) Cornelius Tyson

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Witnesses:
William Streepers
Herman Grothanson 
ff. Daniel Pastorius
(Source: THE PERKIOMEN REGION, p. 138)
The inventory was addressed to Pastorius, but made by Herman Groshausen and Hendrick Sellen.Plantation $45; Oxe Breeding Mare and Colt $4; Three Cows $7; one Shot 7s, one half Acres Rye, three fourths acre of wheat $5, 4s; six Acres Oats $3, 18s; Half Acre of Flax 1 Os; Seventeen Pounds Linnen Yarn $l 5s; old Loom and Weaving tools $2, 10s; two spinning wheels 12s: one Great Wheel 4s, 6p; Earthern ware 10s; one round table and two chairs 5s; ten Bu.Rye 15s; one Plough, one Harrow, one Swingletree 19S.
One little red wagon, and sled 1 1 s; one ax, maul, two wedges, two hows, one grubbing how and pick-ax 12s; onechisel, augur, and drawing knife 5s: onecutting box, and knife 15s; Three beds Bs; Collars and Treases 3s; one old saddle and two Bridles 16s; one grindstone 4s; one spade, choping iron, pitchfork, dunk fork and hook Bs; one wheelbarroe 5s; one sith and ring 3s.
(Margaret Tyson, widow, bought 50 A. in Krisheim, along the Plymouth Road, the one and thirtieth day of the 3d year of King George, 1716.From: THE PERKIOMEN REGION, p. 139.)
More About Cornelius Tyson:
Burial: Unknown, Axe's Graveyard.
Comment 1: Buried in Axe's Graveyard, Concord School.
Comment 2: Upper Cemetary.The oldest existing.
Comment 3: tombstone to the memory of a German in PA..
Ethnicity/Relig.: Menno Simon faith.
Immigration: 1684, Arrived in USA.
Occupation: Lawyer, Surveyor, Weaver.
Residence: Germantown, PA.
Children of Cornelius Tyson and Margaret are:

1. +Matthias Tyson, b. 1682, Krefeld, Germany, d. April 8, 1766, Perkiomen Twp., Montgomery Co., PA.
2. Williamente Tyson, b. Abt. 1687, d. date unknown.
3. Barbara Tyson, b. 1687, d. date unknown.
4. Fannerse Tyson, b. Abt. 1688, d. date unknown.
5. Peter Tyson, b. 1690, d. date unknown.

From genealogy.com

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Also from geneology.com.

Laurentz Hendricks (b. 1693, d. 1753)

Laurentz Hendricks was born 1693, and died 1753.He married Fannerse Tyson, daughter of Cornelius Tysonand Margaret.

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Thank you so much for taking time to look.  I did actually find those I wrote to the lady who did the memorial for find a grave to try to sort out the daughters she did send one responce that from her reasearch Hendricks only had one wife and that her name Had many different variations including Janikee and Yaniken but did not explain why both those listed as daughter or why both their links had Hendricks as husband.Why I don't usually like find a grave for references. the second one was somewhat of a help up to the will which confused me I made note of it on profile.

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When I clicked on both Fanny and Janikee on the findagrave site their husbands share the same last name but the first name and date of birth are different.

I also did some more digging and have found information that is confusing. Some show only Fanny, others show only Janikee and veriant spellings, others show both, and still others show neither of them.

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yes that's what I got too when I wrote to find a grave manager got back a responce that said that Hendricks only had one wife but had many differnt variations of name, but no information on why  two of those variations of the name are listed as different daughters whos links both say they were married to Hendricks. I wouldn't mention find a grave at all but know other people who come across profile and reasearch on their own will go there and would like to have information on my profile that clears things up