US Civil War 2023 March/April Challenge [closed]

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Union_and_Confederate_service_badges-3.gifThe Civil War Challenge began (from March 1st to April 27th )  It will be to create profiles for the Soldiers who died while they were Prisoners of War in Camp Sumter Military Prison also known as Andersonville Prison.  

The prison operated for 14 months, during which over 45,000 Union Soldiers were imprisoned.  Almost 13,000 died, mostly from scurvy, diarrhea and dysentery.  

The Find-A-Grave for Andersonville National Cemetery lists 12,681 Union soldiers who died during those 14 months.  At the beginning of March there were 137 profiles created on WikiTree.  UPDATE: 4/24/2023 we now have 1,629 profiles created.laugh

The Challenge was to create profiles from March 1st to the April 27th, of those POW's who died in Andersonville Prison.  The Sign-up Chart and Instructions are on the  US Civil War Project Monthly Challenges Page  The Challenge is Done, but see below.

New: Space Page for POW's Who Died in Andersonville Prison:  laugh

For members who would like to continue contributing to those POW's Who Died in Andersonville Prison  a new space page has been created.  There won't be a time limit as a Challenge has, but rather a steady creation of profiles. The purpose of the POW's Who Died in Andersonville Prison  is to create a profile for all 12,681 soldiers buried in Andersonville Prison. 

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closed with the note: Challenge Completed
in The Tree House by Pam Kreutzer G2G6 Mach 6 (63.6k points)
closed by Pam Kreutzer

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IF you have an interest in the Union soldiers who died in Andersonville Prison a new space page as been created.  The object of this space page is to create profiles for the 12,672 POW's who died in Andersonville Prison and are buried in the Andersonville National Cemetery. There isn't a time limit for the creation of profiles.  Link: POW's Who Died in Andersonville Prison  Sign-up and Instructions are on the Space Page.

by Pam Kreutzer G2G6 Mach 6 (63.6k points)
edited by Pam Kreutzer
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Starts March 1!  I had better get moving along. I'm still cleaning up the Indiana soldiers from the Shiloh challenge. I have not got them all connected.
by Norman Jones G2G6 Pilot (113k points)
You know in April is another Connect-a-Thon, you can always  connect them on that weekend.  That's what I'm planning to do, I'll keep track of the ones I want to connect, then finish them in April.
I did not know there was another in April.  What I don't get finished now, I may come back to then. I have connected quick a few of the Indiana soldiers buried at Shiloh.

I recently saw that we were supposed to put a * by existing profiles that we did not build.  In that last challenge, I had several that I connected that others had built. I did not put the * by those; I was not aware at that time. I'll do that this month.
Hi, Connie Graham who chose this month's topic thought of the * to show that a previous profile had been created.   

There is a Connect-a-Thon in April and July.
Small world. I just finished connecting some of the profiles she created for Indiana soldiers. I did not want to see a connect-a-thon to connect all the Shiloh soldiers that were created during the challenge. So I have been connecting those that I can from Indiana. After I finish Indiana, I thought about doing the same for Illinois and Iowa soldiers. Perhaps I'll leave those until the connect-a-thon.

I don't like to leave profiles unconnected.
Oh my, a major rabbit hole on my first one! Been all day straightening Yacht out. I have his profile done, FamilySearch records updated and edits in at Find a Grave.

I need to pick up the pace. One a day won't cut it.
Oh no! The second one is an unconfirmed ID. The fates are against me making any speed.
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I'll try. I might need a little patience help with the format stuff. Im not very good with that.
by M Hilliard G2G6 Mach 2 (22.7k points)
Hi, each page has 20 soldiers, I saw you've chosen the surnames with H.    Do you want more then 1 page?  If you do how many?  Also, I'm more then willing to help you.
1 page is good. Thank you for helping me get started!

Hi, Here is the link to H Surnames, page 1, 20 soldiers, Memorials in Andersonville National Cemetery - Find a Grave

If you'd like me to list them on the chart when you've created them, just message me.  Pam

Thank you!
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How long does this challenge last, there is only a start date?  Is this where I sign up?
by Mike Conley G2G3 (3.2k points)
Hi Mike, the Challenge is for the whole month of March, you sign up on the Challenge Page, where you'll find the instructions.  See the G2G question for the link to the Challenge Page.
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Hello is this where I join the Civil War Project Monthly challenge?  I’d like to join.

Linda
by Linda Johnson G2G6 (8.9k points)

Hi Linda, here is the link to the Challenge Page where you will find the instructions and chart to sign-up.  US Civil War Project Monthly Challenges Page (wikitree.com)

Hello - I followed that link  - US Civil War Project Monthly Challenges page (wikitree) - And I see the chart but how do I sign up for the rows I want in FAG?

Linda
Hi Linda, if you want I can sign you up on the Chart.  I just need to know what letter you want, and the page number or numbers your going to do.  Each page has 20 soldiers.
Yes please:  My ID is    Boblett-43  and I would like to start with   C pg 8-9.   

Once I have started adding the profiles how do I put there ID# in there?  Do I need to hit the edit button below the chart?  

Thank you Linda
Hi Linda, I'll add you to the chart.   You edit just like all profile pages, hit the Edit button on top of the page, then you'll stroll down to your name, Example follows:

|[[Boblett-43|Linda Johnson]]

|'''C 8-9'''

| (This line is where you'll add your soldiers)

Then click save
+17 votes
I would be happy to work on this challenge.
by Karen Stewart G2G6 Pilot (127k points)
Glad to have you in the Challenge.
+17 votes
Hello - I'd like to sign up for the March Challenge.  

Thank you Linda
by Linda Johnson G2G6 (8.9k points)
+16 votes
What a great idea!  I would love to help with this!!
by Tammie Cochran G2G6 Pilot (410k points)

Hi Tammie, here's the link to the Challenge Page: US Civil War Project Monthly Challenges Page (wikitree.com)

You'll find the instructions, and sign-up chart.  Thank you for your help.

Pam, not sure if I am seeing the list of deceased on the correct pages.  The ones that I am seeing are listed by State first, then by name.  So, if I want to work on them by state, how would I note that on the project?

Here's the link to the Find-A-Grave site, you would put the first letter of the surname you want to work on in the last name box.   Memorials in Andersonville National Cemetery - Find a Grave   Example if you worked on the letter G, you'd get this: Memorials in Andersonville National Cemetery - Find a Grave  it has 1-54 pages.  Each page has 20 soldiers, so you'd pick what pages you wanted to work on, then on the chart you'd put (example: G 1-2.)

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Sign Me Up.
by Nathan Johnson G2G3 (3.3k points)

Hi Nathan, here is the link to the Challenge Page: US Civil War Project Monthly Challenges Page (wikitree.com)

You'll find the instructions and sign-up chart.  Thank you for joining the Challenge.

+17 votes

Here is a great source for those who died at Andersonville. This was written in 1866.

The Atwater Report - A list of the Union soldiers buried at Andersonville : copied from the official record in the surgeon's office at Andersonville

https://archive.org/details/UnionSoldiersBuriedAtAndersonville/page/n5/mode/2up

by LJ Russell G2G6 Pilot (219k points)
Thank you LJ, I did post a link to another one of these records, but the link you added, is a bit more readable.

My 2nd Great Granduncle William Leezer died there.  When I went to check his Profile for possible updates, I discovered I had been remiss in adding him to WikiTree.  This omission now corrected. Your Challenge made me check and so thanks for initiating it,

William Leezer

Also connected by marriage to James Baker

Kevin Frye, Andersonville Historian  is great to get in touch with and will give permission to use his images on Find A Grave if you just ask him.

Yesterday I got in touch with Kevin Frye, and he has given permission for us to use his images.

yes

P.S. Pam, here is a Resource Page I put together and this is my Civil War section

You have some nice resources listed, I'll have to double check the Project's resource page to see if we have them available on there.   Don't know if your interested in the Illinois adjutant general records, but I've listed a link on the Illinois Resource Page.

Thanks Pam, but I already had created a Free Space Page for this one with all of the volumes listed. wink

Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana

+16 votes
Hi, I have a couple of vets in my tree who were imprisoned there. I will help.
by Steve Lake G2G6 Mach 2 (25.5k points)
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One of my ancestors died in Andersonville. The interesting thing is he was from KY. He may have been sent there for deserting.
by Gail Ivey G2G6 Mach 1 (10.6k points)
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One of my great-grandfather's cousins, John Rivir (AKA River) was taken prisoner and died during the civil war. I have not been able to find out where. A newspaper article from that time said Andersonville prison, but another source said Libby prison. I have not found him on the list of deaths at Andersonville. If anyone else can find anything about him, I could use help. His profile is Rivir-4
by Alison Gardner G2G6 Mach 8 (84.7k points)
Do you know what regiment he served with?
30th Indiana infantry, company F.
I found John Rivir in the Indiana Civil War records. He was listed as John Riser. 100% certain that is he. Fold3 records have both names, John Riser and John Rivir on their records.

I added a link to his record at Indiana Archives. You can decide how much of it you wish to add to the profile.

The Fold3 record does not include a lot not shown on the Indiana Archives record. Here is the additional information at Fold3.

 Birth 1836

Residence 24 Sep 1861, Noble County, Indiana

Muster In. 24 Sep 1861. Private.

Does not give the discharge date. Just the rank of Private.
Thank you very much. He would not have been discharged, as he was taken prisoner by the confederates, and did not survive the incarceration.
The records normally show date of death for the discharge date.
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Pam, A quick note of thanks for designing such a well organized challenge!  This is the best challenge I've done so far.
by Anonymous Paulien G2G6 Mach 3 (31.7k points)
Thank you, it was a combined  effort between Connie Graham and me.
Kudos to Connie Graham too!
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Hello I would like to be in on this challenge, I don’t know how to add the sticker's.

Thank you
by M. Gary G2G2 (2.9k points)
Hi M, glad to have you in the challenge, you'll need to add your name to the Challenge page chart, and pick what soldiers you'll be working on.  On the Challenge Page you will find the stickers, you just need to copy and then paste them under the Bio heading on profile.  I can always do the first one for you, just to show you how.
Pam,

I would be glad to help Gary get started. I'm not interested in the total I create, so I can spend the time helping.

Norman
I have tried to add my name to the list I must be doing something wrong . I don’t know how to add there name on the list after I’m done  total new y to a challenge like this

Thank you

Mary
Hi Mary, I saw you figured out how to add your name and what your working on.    

Quick tutorial:  At the top of page you would click the Edit Button, then you would stroll down to where your name is, there are three lines:

|your ID

|what your working on

|the third line is where you add the profiles you've created:  [[soldier-123|A Soldier]]

After you're done, you stroll down to the bottom where you would click the Save button.
Thank you I have only done 2 todayi have 2  Abbott names

Afraid I might be more trouble than I am worth o this as I don’t know how to add the stickers, or put there name in the list  I’ll stick with the Abbott and do them if you don’t mind helping me

Thank you
Thanks I’ll keep trying to get it right
Hi, if you give me their ID numbers I'll add the stickers and add the names  to the chart.. I don't mind helping you.
Abbott-14943 ,  Abbott-14954 , Abbott 14955  Achor-2

Abel-3715 ,Abel-3716, Abercrombie-1585

Acher-285 , Ackerman-3625 , Ackerman -3626

Achert-129 , Achler-26 , Ackley-1884, Acksler-1

Albinson-31 , Aiken-2203 , Aiken-2204 Aiken-348

I came across 1 profile that was already created  but it needed the stickers and there wasn’t a picture, can I add the picture to someone profile if they died in Andersonville

Thank you so much
Hi Mary, thank you for creating all these profiles, I'll post them to the chart this afternoon.  Yes, you can add the picture to a created profile, WikiTree is a community, so we help each other out.  Pam
Thank you I’m working on Bailey on page 3 today  

Again thank you
I added all the profiles to the chart and marked you doing B page 3
Thank you did. the profiles look ok  to you
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Signed up…sounds like a great challenge! My 2nd great-uncle is one of the profiles already listed in the Andersonville category. I look forward to creating adding a few more soldiers to WikiTree.
by Jody Rodgers G2G6 Mach 5 (53.4k points)
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I just found the ultimate rabbit hole. Fortunately, someone had created a profile for him. Just put categorized it and added to the bio. I left the mess for some other day.

A soldier died at Andersonville. A woman #1 files a claim for widow pension.  Woman #2 files a claim for widow pension.  He has 2 children from a former marriage. Woman #1 says she has the younger of the 2 living with her and that the older child has died. However, she does not know his when he was born. Woman #2 says he had children from an former marriage, but she does not know anything about them.  

At this point I was hooked. I had to read both files (one was 70 pages). The story only starts there.

The guy had 4 wives.

 Wife #1 was mother of 2 children. Supposedly dead, possible she abandoned them. No record of death or divorce.

Wife #2 was someone he married sometime after Wife #1. No one knows where she went. No divorce.

Now comes Woman #1. She became wife #3. He was 25 and she was 14 at the time of the marriage. Supposedly, she was still living with the guy when he went into the army. No divorce from wife #3.

Woman #2 becomes wife #4 about a year after he married wife #3. She was 16 at the time they were married and he told her he was 28. (he told wife #3 he as 25 about a year earlier at that marriage). Wife #4 is supposedly living with him when he went into the army, but she does not know where his kids are.

But wait. . . there's more. A lady who said she is his mother gets guardianship for both of his children in probate court. Yep. That other child was not dead after all. Looks like Mom has the children. Mom has a different last name from son. He carries his father's last name, and not hers. Mom thinks the wife #1 is dead, but does not know and details. Mom says no divorce from wife #1. Mom says son married wife #2, but she thinks that wife abandoned her son, but no divorce. Moms says son then married wife #3, but thinks that wife abandoned son also. But son did not get a divorce. Mom says son then married wife #4, but does not say anything about that wife.  Government pays Mom as guardian for the 2 minors all the deceased soldier's back pay and his signing bonus.

The government is paying pensions to both Woman #1  (wife #3) and Woman #2 (wife #4). Mom tells them wife #3 had remarried. Government stopped the monthly pension payments to her.

Never hear of wife #4. Government stopped the monthly pension payments. Not clear why.

There are petitions for increase in the monthly pensions for the children, filed by Mom.

Government stops monthly pension payments to the children stating the claim had been abandoned.

A Congressman writes to inquire about the status of the pension claim saying he has been asked for assistance from Woman #3 who is allegedly the mother of the younger son (but now he has a different first name and middle initial). Woman #3 is a new name in the case. Congressman and pension office exchange letters. Finally the pension office tells the Congressman that the claim had been abandoned. If the child wishes to pursue the claim to submit is address and they will provide him details of what he has to proof to get the claim reinstated. Oh, by the way, the tell the Congressman, the mother of that child is dead. Someone writes back to pension office (I think an investigator) that this child the Congressman had mentioned is a grandchild of the deceased soldier. No details of how the minor children of the deceased soldier have a child.

But the story does not end there. Remember dear old Mom who was appointed guardian and collected their money.  Over 20 years later, an attorney representing son #2 contacts the pension office. Son #2 never got any money. He is now seeking all those back payments up to when he would have turned 16!

I had to spend a few hours reading and digesting all the documents. I even tracked down almost every one of the parties. Yep, I even found wife #3 with her new husband (married in 1866). The story had too many twists and turns, I compelled to follow it to the end.

But all I did was slap a couple stickers on the profile and leave that mess alone.
by Norman Jones G2G6 Pilot (113k points)
edited by Norman Jones
Norman you truly find the most interesting soldiers.
A strange one I had not come across before.

The Find a Grave Memorial had the soldier in the wrong cemetery.

There was no grave marker photo on the Andersonville National. The name, details, service record and grave plot number all checks out. Except that is the information from the Grafton National Cemetery.  And yes, there was a Find a Grave memorial for him at Grafton.

Had folks mis identified before. But never placed in the wrong cemetery at a National Cemetery.
Found a second grave that was the wrong National Cemetery. Someone created some memorials at Find a Grave for soldiers that are not buried there.

If there is no picture of the grave marker, that memorial is probably incorrect.
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Years ago, I gave the Director of the PW Museum a CD with records on about 99 Union soldiers who were sent to Andersonville after being captured at the Battle of Fort Pillow, TN.  I have researched all the PWs and Casualties of Fort Pillow and have their service records.  The book "River Run Red" has some stories associated with some of the prisoners.  I have some history of their military service and may have a little bit of personal info on them.  

Here are some examples:

  • Patton S. Alexander  Grave #8493 - Corporal,  Company D, 13 Tennessee Cavalry(US).  From Obion County, with 5 children. Enlisted in 1st Tennessee Mounted Regiment in 1846 and served in Mexican War.  Died Sept 11.
  • William T. Lovett  Grave #1223  Company A, 13 Tenn Cavalry(US).  One of first of Fort Pillow Prisoners to die at Andersonville on May 19, only 37 days after being captured.
  • Captain John T. Young was one of the few officers to have survived. He was first taken to Andersonville Prison but was later separated, as the Confederates tried force him to sign papers denouncing the massacre.  After the war, he was a school teacher in Missouri and died in Los Angeles in 1915.
  •  Isaac Ledbetter of Company E of 13 Tenn Cavalry survived and became a Methodist minister and postal clerk and had 6 children.  He was the oldest living survivor of the Union garrison.  He died in Morrilton AR in 1935.
  • Captain Charles J. Epeneter, Company A of 6th US Colored Heavy Artillery. While manning a cannon, a rifle ball fractured his head.  Capt. Epeneter was taken as a prisoner despite his head wound.  I think Captain Epeneter was first held at Andersonville and then moved to another camp in Charleston SC.  He escaped from captivity and returned to his unit on Nov. 4, 1864.
by Steve Cole G2G6 Mach 2 (23.5k points)
edited by Steve Cole
+9 votes
Pam,

I have found a second memorial in Andersonville that is the wrong cemetery.

Someone created memorials for soldiers at Andersonville Cemetery when they were buried elsewhere.

If the memorial at Find a Grave does not have a photo of the grave marker, most likely it is incorrect.

If we are not careful, we will create a lot of listings on Wikitree that have the wrong cemetery.
by Norman Jones G2G6 Pilot (113k points)
Is he listed in the "A List of the Union Soldiers buried at Andersonville"?    Just for a double check, I've noticed that some of the prisoners died at Andersonville, but their family created a memorial elsewhere.  Thank you for the reminder to double check the cemetery.
This is not a case of the family creating home town memorials.

These are Find a Grave Memorials listed in the Andersonville National Cemetery, but the soldiers were never buried there. In both cases they died somewhere unrelated to Andersonville. Both were buried in other National Cemeteries (with photos of their grave marker there). The memorial showing Andersonville National as the burial have no photos of grave markers.  

If you come across a Find a Grave memorial listed as an Andersonville burial, but has no photo of the grave marker, it is most likely incorrect (not buried at Andersonville).

In both cases I have had, the military service record has no mention of Andersonville. In both cases the service records matched the burial information at other National Cemeteries.  I forget the details of the first one I came across.  But the one was killed in action. That was a give away that something was wrong.
George Earle, Find a Grave Memorial ID 511542110. Listed as died 31 Oct 1864, buried at Andersonville National Cemetery and is buried in plot 692. No photo of grave marker.
 

The Find a Grave listing for George Earle at Andersonville is wrong. If others go by the Find a Grave listings without checking, they will create incorrect memorials.  

George Earle was a Private in Co. B, 9th Indiana Infantry.

His military service record at Indiana Archives says he died at Cheat Mountain, W. V, 10-30-61 of typhoid fever.
The records at Fold3 show George Earle of Co. B, 9th Indiana is buried at Grafton National Cemetery, Grafton W.V. in plot E-692.

At Find a Grave, there is a memorial for George Earle, Co B, 9th Indiana at Grafton National Cemetery, in plot 692.
When I found those erroneous memorials, I contacted the administrator seeking to have the erroneous memorial merged into the correct one.

So far, one of them has been so merged. That erroneous Andersonville memorial is now gone.
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Pam,

You mention that you had obtained permission to use certain grave marker photos from Find a Grave.  Was I supposed to be including such photos in the profiles I am creating?
by Norman Jones G2G6 Pilot (113k points)

Hi Norman, it's up to you if you use the photos.  If you do just remember to give credit to Kevin Frye Andersonville Historian for the use of the pictures.  On 1 March 2023, he gave permission to use the images of the memorials he took.

Sorry.  I forgot to use those photos.  I will start adding them to the profiles I create. I will give credit for the photo.
I am now including the grave marker photo in the profiles I create. That is a nice touch. Wish I had been doing that from the start, but I forgot about it.  Too many to go back and add the photo, at least for now.

By the way, I am doing as you suggested. I am not connecting the soldier's profiles I create. I am making a list of names to come back and connect later (It's a long list).  It's hard to leave these soldiers unconnected.
I've got my notebook list that I will work on for the Connect-a-Thon .  Because there will be so many pows soldiers that this challenge won't get to, I'm planning to make a space page for them.  Let it be a on going project for anyone who would like to continue working on them.
There are a lot of soldiers buried at Andersonville. It will take a while to get them all created. It will take an unimaginable amount to time to try to get as many connected as possible. Records are few for the POWs. I am amazed there is as much recorded data as there is about that place.

Hi Norman, could you look up a pension record for me, I need his wife and child's name, since I don't have a subscription I can't see the whole record.  John Jones - WikiTree Profile   https://www.fold3.com/document.php?doc=2724261&xid=215&p=ma   Thank you.smiley

I'm looking for the file now.

The link on the profile was for the index card only.

I found a 3 page file.  Only states an increase to the child's pension.  Sarah E pension until February 14, 1879. That means her birth was Feb. 14, 1863,

I will keep looking for the entire file.  John Jones is a common name. They have a lot of them to search through.

Thank you laugh

Fold3 has a terrible search function.

I search the name Jones, John.  I can select Union Civil War and then Widows Claims section. That result gave over 1000 results. I took a screen shot so you can see what the search looks like. But I don't know how to add it here.

What happens is that the search is for the name Jones and the name John. Any file that has both of those any where in the file is included in the results.

Say there is a file for William Smith widow claim. One witness is name John Brown and another witness is Edward Jones. That file gets included in the search results.

Also, I have yet to figure the logic of the order of results. The first couple files will be for a union soldier named John Jones. Then the next several may not even be a Jones. I am maybe 7 pages into the results and still finding an occasional John Jones file.

On common names it is a slow process of finding who you are looking for.
It's OK Norman I don't want you to go through all that. I've got the daughter's name to put in the bio, so that will do. Thank you
Widow is Mary Ann Jones.  Got that from the 3 page file (one page is the back side of a page).

That had a typo on the index cover. Said 72nd Regiment. But the paper inside had 76th hand written.
Thank you that will be enough.
No long file. I got the claim numbers from the index card (widow and minor child). But that is all that is there.

I tried a key word search using Jones, John, New York. That cut the number of pension claim files down to 50. Only the 3 page file in there.  

Unless the main file is mis-indexed using an incorrect name, it is not there. If it is mis-indexed, that is a needle in a haystack.

One note. Minor claim files carry the name of the oldest eligible claimant. Here, Sarah E. Jones. But there could be younger siblings and those only appear in the main file. Since Sarah had a 1863 birth, not likely to had younger siblings.

Sorry. I could not find more for you.
I added the information from his file to the research notes.
Thank you for researching this for me.

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