look up needed: The Winthrop Fleet by Robert Charles Anderson "Robert Welden"

Question

I'm researching and writing a biography for a PGM profile, Robert Welden.

Is there anything in "The Winthrop Fleet..."  on pp 676-677 about Robert Welden, his wife Elizabeth (Bond-https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bond-1764 )or her second husband George Phillips (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Phillips-1343 )?

Wondering if any of them should have category "Winthrop Fleet"

Assistance appreciated.  Thank you.

Answer 1

GM Directory gives those pages of Winthrop Fleet for Welden and pages 528-33 for Phillips.

Anderson's Puritan Pedigrees p.110 says that Phillips migrated on the Winthrop Fleet.

Comments

Thanks Andrew.

If you have the time, will you review the biographies of both men… and tell me if there is additional information about either in Anderson’s ‘’The Winthrop Fleet’’. Please.

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I'm afraid I don't have that book.

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Ok, understood.  Thanks for your comment above.

Perhaps there is someone who has a copy of Anderson’s “Winthrop Fleet” would be willing to do a look-up for me and give me some additional information?

Answer 2

I know this isn't exactly what you are asking, but hope it's helpful nonetheless. I have a copy of The Winthrop Fleet of 1630 by Charles Edward Banks and can confirm that of the names given, only George Phillips can be found in the Index of Names. He is listed on pages 22 and 48. I've scanned of both pages, as well as the preceding pages, and will send them to you via a private message.

Answer 3

In The Winthrop Fleet, Anderson's write-up on Robert Weldon adds no new information beyond his earlier sketch in The Great Migration Begins (pp. 1964-5), repeating it almost word-for-word.  As to the issue Cheryl is focusing on, Anderson concludes that Weldon migrated and settled in Charlestown in 1630.

Does that make him part of the Winthrop Fleet?  In the75 page preliminary section and 50 page Introduction (by far the most important and useful part of the new book, in my view), Anderson deals at length with that question.  He summarizes the scope of The Winthrop Fleet as follows:  "this volume attempts to include all those immigrants who came with the Winthrop Fleet in 1630, as well as those 1629 arrivals who were associated with the 1629 planning activities of the Massachusetts Bay Company.  We have not attempted to compile a simple list, such as that prepared by Banks.  However, one could compile such a list by taking note of those sketches in this volume with a 1630 year of migration." (p. xvii)

So, if we want WT to specially label immigrants as "came with the Winthrop Fleet", the PGM team could adopt Anderson's criteria as our rule, and the profiles included in that book with a 1630 date of immigration as our "list."

Sorry for the longish answer to Cheryl's well-phrased and brief question.

Comments

To continue, Cheryl also asked whether the new book had further info about Robert's wife Elizabeth or her second husband Rev. George Phillips.  Again, the sketch of George in The Winthrop Fleet (pp. 528-533) mostly repeats the sketch in Great Migration Begins, (pp.1446-1450).  It does cite some additional sources.  

Both of the Phillips sketches include several facts about Elizabeth, including her will, but no hint of her maiden name. The sketches of Robert note that "Elizabeth Weldon was admitted to Boston church as member #91, which would be in the winter of 1630-31", which Anderson takes as proof she had arrived in Boston during 1630.