Finding a NYC Arrival Not in the Ellis Island Database

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I'm trying to track down more information on my great-grandmother https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Blazy-9 .  Family oral history indicates that she departed Bremen and arrived with two sisters and possibly mother in Ellis Island as a late teen, or sometime before 1914 (when she got married in New Jersey).  At some point prior to this, her father had arrived and was working in NJ.

Searching https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html for surnames starting with 'blas' or 'blaz', arriving between 1900 and 1914 does not turn her up - it does find

Blazy, Marie  Grosschlagendorf, Hungary

Who is perhaps related - it's the correct town at the right time!  But that ship doesn't have anybody else in the manifest with a matching name.  I also don't find her father, Mathias who we admittedly have weak evidence for.

There's a group of "Blasy" (Maria age 28, Paul age 6 and Marie age 2) who arrived in 1899 from Hunfalu which is adjacent to Grossschlagendorf and are also perhaps related, but are not Susie.

What should I make of this?  Did my ancestor not get recorded, or is it likely that they arrived at a different port for some reason?  Am I searching badly?

Additional context that may be useful: Susie and her husband spoke (Carpathian) German when they immigrated, and considered themselves Hungarian.  I have her baptism record linked on her profile with some alternate name spellings on it.

WikiTree profile: Susie Kotzan
in Genealogy Help by Alec Story G2G Crew (720 points)

A little more (not about her immigration) is available from her obituary, here. It claims she died in Cranford (not Berkeley Heights), but of course may be wrong (her death certificate would be better evidence).

How were you able to access the obituary?  I think https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/221680485/ is it but I don't have access.

I do subscribe to Newspapers. Did you try clicking on the word 'here' in my original comment? That's supposed to take you to a version you can see without a subscription.

Here's the link: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/105126283/obituary-for-kotzan-aged-73/ 

Let me know if you can't get it through the link.

Harry

Got it, thank you!

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Here you go:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGGL-2PY3

Gives a mother as well ... make sure to go to the next page for her father and address

by Mark Stevens G2G6 Mach 1 (16.6k points)
selected by Alec Story
Wow, thank you!  I had the port wrong, and was the victim of challenging handwriting, it seems.

You're welcome Alec. Thanks for the star.

Interesting that your oral history mentioned Susie travelled with two sisters. The passenger manifest doesn't show them but there was a potential travelling companion on the Vaderland, at line 15 there's a Johann Roth who also came from Gross Langendorf. He might be worth tracking down for clues about other members of Susie's family.

Good luck in your search.

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Alec:

It's not a passenger list, but her listing in the 1920 Census of Union County, New Jersey lists her as immigrating in 1910:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4YR-V5K

                                Roger

by Roger Stong G2G Astronaut (1.4m points)

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