Robert Crozier = Robert A Crozier ?

Question

Hello,

I asked for help a few weeks ago about the father of my grandfather Joseph Crozier 1906-1984. I got several replies which I am most grateful !!! , all pointing to a Robert A Crozier.

My grandfather was from County Armagh, census 1911 Ireland living with his grandmother Anne Reily. His religion was marked as Church or Ireland.

The Robert A Crozier that was suggested come from County Fermanagh (Ballinamallard). His religion was Methodist.

I am not totally sure that Robert A Crozier is Joseph Crozier's father.

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could provide a source of the 'real Robert',   father of Joseph.

BR

/ Tim Crozier

PS.

(I found it strange that Joseph's  mother/father (robert crozier/sarah reily) where not in same house in this census...)

Comments

Hi Timothy

There could be a variety of reasons for a married couple not spending the night of the census in the same house.  Remember the question wasn't 'Who lives here' but 'Who slept here the night of ______'.  A sick family member, a project they were working on together, a new baby: a lot of different things could cause people to be elsewhere on one specific night. Just some food for thought.

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A split in the record.

(I still have not found the extra pages on more than one record -- which leaves an 8-year-old as head of household.  On others I have parents on one page and children on another .. with the eldest child showing as head of household and the sibling/s as "son" / "daughter" of.  (Which is on whoever split the pages and transcribed the records in such a way.))

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thanks Shirlea, yes that could be case. What makes me wonder is on the marriage cert of Joseph parents shows his father living in another county.

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Many Fathers from Ireland worked in England as their were more jobs to be had.

Answer 1

I have added identical research notes to the profiles of three Robert Croziers: Crozier-1823, Crozier-1837 and Crozier-498, and created one unmerged match and one rejected match between them.

As regards other points raised in the G2G posts about this puzzle ( https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1026534 and https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1018245 ):

* in online Irish census returns, each household is on a separate page, so there is no possibility of a household being split across pages (unless the household has more than the 15 members allowed for on each page) - but online English and American census returns are enumerators' books, which do allow households to be split across pages;
* it was very common for young married women to return to their parental home for the birth of their first child; and
* it was very common for young children to stay overnight with grandparents and to be enumerated with the grandparents in a census.