Joseph Smith? Father of Louisa Smith of Cheltenham

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Hey all 

I'm currently researching my great grandmother, and I've hit a brick wall. Louisa was born in 1867 to Joseph Smith and Mary Anne Smith nee Ritchins and got baptized with her sibilings at the same time aged 11 (see below christening record)

Name
Age
Event Type Baptism
Birth Date
Baptism Date
Baptism Place
Parish as it Appears Cheltenham
Father Joseph Smith
Mother Mary Anne Smith
 

However there are no signs of Joseph in the 1871 Census, Mary is the head of the household and her job title was "chairwoman".  I'm assuming Joseph died earlier, but I can't find anything about him, can anyone help??

Thanks

Mark 

in Genealogy Help by Mark Wright G2G2 (2.7k points)
Chairwoman=charwoman.

2 Answers

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Hi Mark,
It looks like her parents married in March quarter 1866 in Cheltenham district (Joseph Smith & Mary A Richings), if it's any use.  If you can find (or buy) the full details of the marriage record, it would help a lot but it's not on freeReg and I'm not seeing it on FamilySearch.  The full version of Louisa's christening record would likely also give Joseph's occupation, and so would any of the children's birth certificates.

This is the family in 1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YN-7ZH

This is them in 1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-V67F

In 1891 (probably): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W1TK-42M

In both 1871 & 1881, the mother is down as married not widowed, so I don't think Joseph was dead by 1871 even though he's not there.  Particularly since there were more children born by 1881, although he could have died and they could have been illegitimate - I can't get on the GRO website right now to check mother's maiden name for them, the server's not responding.  If they're illegitimate and the registrar knows that, he's supposed to put blank for her maiden name, but sometimes it doesn't happen that way in practice.  The 1891 says Mary is a widow.

If Joseph was someone who travelled a lot for work, and it didn't make sense to drag his family along, like a sailor or a commercial traveller or a carter, he could easily have missed being at home for two censuses.

There's a chance Ann Smith who was boarding with them in 1871 was a relative, either a sister or mother of Joseph.  I'm not spotting a good match for her on earlier censuses on FamilySearch, but if it was my family I'd definitely try harder to find her (trip to library to use Ancestry and FindMyPast).

Corinne
by Corinne Morris G2G6 Mach 2 (26.1k points)
edited by Corinne Morris

Here is a free-to-view image of Louisa's christening record showing Joseph's occupation - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/17579915?h=2c5921

I think it says he is a Lath Render - see http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/l.html for a description.

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First name(s) MARY A

Last name RICHINGS

Marriage quarter 1

Marriage year 1866

Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™

MARY A RICHINGS married one of these people

William Powis, Joseph Smith

District Cheltenham

District number -

County Gloucestershire

Country England

Volume 6A

Volume as transcribed 6A

Page number 540

Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce

Collections from Great Britain, England

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