Burke's Peerage "has" her parents, but do we know enough to add them?

Question

Refer to: The Peerage: Mary Marton F, #34630

Mary Molyneux (Marton)	Child	uncertain 23 Mar 1713 St Andrew Holborn, London, England	Preston, Lancashire, England	Female
Q104055752	Oliver Marton	Possible Father	,	1 Jan 1744 ,

Answer 1

We definitely don't. Her parents are almost certainly born before 1700 and Pre-1700 profiles have to cite reliable sources, preferably primary sources, at the time the profile is created. Neither Burke's Peerage, or thePeerage website are considered reliable.  See the England Projects list of reliable sources for pre-1700 profiles.

Comments

For my own family I have always found the peerage totally reliable

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I have come up with a problem with older peerage accounts. It seems they have used many times in the past with no checks. I also have a problem with church epitaphs for the same reason. Caused me lots of distraction until I checked UK archives on manors. I’ve got one labeled “first lord of Amesbury”.

Answer 2

This is where deeper research starts. I've added a source and research note with Oliver's marriage, but what is needed is something to link this Oliver to this particular Mary who married Molyneux.

Oliver has a Will here (edit: written in 1735) which mentions a daughter Mary, but who was unmarried at the time https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D514947

So that's just the beginning of research. You need to find something to tie the two together.

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The will has a codicil dated 18 June 1739 which mentions "my daughter Mary lately intermarryed with Rigby Molyneux"

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Well spotted! I hadn't got that far.

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Great work!

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Fantastic

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Cool, Andrew! 

Answer 3

I agree with both John and Gil as I have a few lines in the Burke's and Peerages but I treat them like Unsourced Family Trees, or secondary sources,  the further back they go in time (pre-1800).  I still won't connect some of these lines without finding harder evidence and proof.

I caution you to be wary of connecting. It's hard research and sometimes takes years of looking. Good luck.