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Thomas Wren (abt. 1803)

Thomas Wren
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married 22 Aug 1824 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Biography

Birth [1]
1803, in Bristol, the son of Samuel Wren and Susanna Cox

Christening [1]
6 Mar 1803, in St Paul's, Bristol

Note Given the above Baptism record of birth, there are some questions about the ages stated in the Census records in this profile (see notes in the Research section)

Marriage [2]
22 Aug 1824, in Stapleton (Bristol), to Mary Saunders

1841 Census [3]

1841 Census of England, Wales & Scotland: Gt Anne St, St Philip and St Jacob, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire
Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Thomas Wren M 35 Mason Gloucestershire
Mary Wren F 35 Gloucestershire
Thos Wren M 14 Gloucestershire
Joseph Wren M 10 Gloucestershire
Henry Wren M 7 Gloucestershire
Fred Wren M 5 Gloucestershire
Elinor Wren F 10m Gloucestershire

Research

Question
Are the following Census records a correct match....???
Why not? Age doesn't match, nor does age of Son Thomas
Also, now living in Gloucester rather than Bristol, though as a "Journeyman" that shouldn't preclude a match
But - if it is a match then this has to be reconciled with records for children

1851 Census [4]

1851 Census of England and Wales: Guinea Street, Hamlet Of Kings Holm St Mary, Gloucestershire
Name Relation Status Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Thomas Wren Head Widowed M 42 Wheelright Journeyman Gloucestershire
Thomas Wren Son Unmarried M 17 Labourer Gloucestershire
Elizh Wren Daughter F 10 Gloucestershire
William Wren Son M 5 Scholar Gloucestershire
Richard Miles Lodger Married M 23 Excaveter Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Maltilda Miles Wife F 20 St Mary De Lode

1861 Census [5]

1861 Census of England and Wales: Cambridge Street, Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire
Name Relation Status Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Charles Milton Head Widowed M 29 Carpenter Gloucester,
Charles Milton Son M 4 Scholar Gloucester,
Harriett Milton Mother Married F 57 Nurse Gloucester,
Mary A Milton Daughter F 15 Gloucester,
Thomas Milton Brother Unmarried M 19 Builder Labourer Gloucester,
Thomas Wren Boarder Widowed M 56 Hay Trusser Gloucester,
William Wren Boarder M 14 Farm Labourer Gloucester,

1871 Census [6]

1871 Census of England and Wales: Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire
Name Relation Status Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Harriett Milton Head Married F 66 Cook Barnwood, Gloucestershire
Thomas Wren Boarder Widowed M 65 Wheelwright Gloucester, Gloucestershire
Edward Edwards Boarder M 40 Tailor Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Harry Edwards Visitor M 4 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Thomas Davis Boarder M 25 Coach Wheeler Bristol, Gloucestershire
Benjamin Edwards Boarder M 25 Sawyers Labourer Bromsgrove, Worcestershire

To be considered further.....

Samuel and Susanna Wren
Of possible interest is this 1841 Census record, in the same district (Barton Regis) and same Parish (St Philip & St Jacob) as Thomas's record of the same year [7]

1841 Census of England, Wales & Scotland: Little George Street, St Philip and St Jacob, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire
Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Susanna Wren F 70 Gloucestershire
Samuel Wren M 30 Gloucestershire

Possibilities might include Samuel being a younger brother of Thomas, and perhaps Susanna as their mother (pure speculation without further research)

Richard Wren
Similarly, another 1841 Census records lists Richard Wren, also living in St Philip & St Jacob Parish (again, another possible brother or cousin) [8]

1841 Census of England, Wales & Scotland: Narrow Plain, St Philip and St Jacob, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire
Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Richard Wren M 30 Mason Gloucestershire
Elizth Wren F 25 Gloucestershire
Jas Wren M 14 Gloucestershire
Elizth Wren F 12 Gloucestershire
Mary Wren F 8 Gloucestershire
Sarah Wren F 3 Gloucestershire
Harriot Wren F 1 Gloucestershire
Henry Cavill M 25 Plasterer Gloucestershire
Mary Cavill F 25 Gloucestershire
John Cavill M 3 Gloucestershire
Henry Cavill M 1 Gloucestershire
Sarah Cavill F 3w Gloucestershire
John Oliver M 17 Shoe Maker Gloucestershire
Ann Oliver F 47 Shoe Binder Out of County
Mary Oliver F 21 Out of County
Filia Oliver F 15 Out of County
Elizabeth Fillis F 20 Shoe Maker Gloucestershire
Mary Durbin F 20 Female Servant Gloucestershire
Joanna Baker F 56 Butcher Out of County
Ann Baker F 25 Out of County
Richd Gardiner M 23 Anchor Smith Gloucestershire
Sophia Gardiner F 23 Gloucestershire
Hester Gardiner F 1 Gloucestershire
Thos Mayres M 25 Ireland
Ellen Mayres F 20 Ireland
Ann Mayres F 2 Gloucestershire
James Pippin M 60 Labourer Gloucestershire
Mary Pippin F 8 Gloucestershire
Margaret Pippin F 6 Gloucestershire

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Baptism: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
    FamilySearch Record: NN32-H61 (accessed 8 March 2023)
    Thomas Wreen baptism on 6 Mar 1803, son of Saml. Wreen & Susanna, in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
  2. Marriage: "FreeReg UK Parish Register database"
    Gloucestershire; Stapleton; Holy Trinity; Unknown; File line number: 612
    FreeReg Transcription (accessed 8 March 2023)
    Thomas Wren marriage to Mary Saunders on 22 Aug 1824 in Stapleton, Gloucestershire, England.
  3. 1841 Census: "1841 Census of England, Scotland and Wales"
    The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey, England; Reference: HO 107; Piece: 378; Folio: 42; Page: 26
    FreeCen Transcription (accessed 1 March 2023)
    Thomas Wren (35), Mason, on Gt Anne St, St Philip and St Jacob in Barton Regis registration district in Gloucestershire, England. Born in Gloucestershire, England.
  4. 1851 Census: "England and Wales Census, 1851"
    citing Hamlet Of Kings Holm St Mary, Gloucestershire, England, p. 45; citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.
    FamilySearch Record: SGBQ-CMT (accessed 2 March 2023)
    FindMyPast Image
    Thomas Wren (42), widowed, Wheelright Journeyman, head of household in Hamlet Of Kings Holm St Mary in Gloucester registration district in Gloucestershire, England. Born in Gloucestershire.
  5. 1861 Census: "England and Wales Census, 1861"
    citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
    FamilySearch Record: M7L3-C98 (accessed 2 March 2023)
    FindMyPast Image
    Thomas Wren (56), widowed boarder, Hay Trusser, in household of Charles Milton (29) in Barton St Mary in Gloucester registration district in Gloucestershire, England. Born in Gloucester.
  6. 1871 Census: "England and Wales Census, 1871"
    citing The National Archives of the UK
    FamilySearch Record: V5T7-TQM (accessed 2 March 2023)
    FindMyPast Image
    Thomas Wren (65), widowed boarder, Wheelwright, in household of Harriett Milton (66) in Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom. Born in Gloucester, Gloucestershire.
  7. 1841 Census: "1841 Census of England, Scotland and Wales"
    The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey, England; Reference: HO 107; Piece: 378; Folio: 16; Page: 27
    FreeCen Transcription (accessed 1 March 2023)
    Samuel Wren (30) on Little George Street, St Philip and St Jacob in Barton Regis registration district in Gloucestershire, England. Born in Gloucestershire, England.
  8. 1841 Census: "1841 Census of England, Scotland and Wales"
    The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey, England; Reference: HO 107; Piece: 378; Folio: 14; Page: 22
    FreeCen Transcription (accessed 1 March 2023)
    Richard Wren (30), Mason, in Narrow Plain, St Philip and St Jacob in Barton Regis registration district in Gloucestershire, England. Born in Gloucestershire, England.




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