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John Winslow (1597 - bef. 1674)

John Winslow
Born in Droitwich, Worcestershire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married before 22 May 1627 in Plymouth Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 77 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 27 Sep 2010
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The Puritan Great Migration.
John Winslow migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 2027)
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Biography

Origin

John Winslow, son of Edward Winslow and Magdalene Oliver/Ollyver, was baptised on 18 April 1597 at St. Peters in the Fields church in Droitwich, Worcestershire, England.[1][2] A picture of the church is printed in Volume 31 of the "New England Genealogical and Biographical Record" and is available via archive.org here: [1]

Immigration

Arrived on the Fortune ship in 1621. They first resided at Plymouth. In Pilgrim Hall is a certificate of their dismissal from the Plymouth Church to the Boston Church. He moved to Boston in 1655 and became a prosperous shipping merchant.[1][3]

When his brothers, Edward and Gilbert, sailed on the Mayflower, it is suspected that John was on the ship "Speedwell", which was forced to return to England (p 9).[2]

Marriage and Children

John married between July 1623 and 22 May 1627 at Plymouth Colony to Mary (Chilton) Winslow, daughter of James Chilton, as he was single at the time of the land division in 1623 but married by the time of the cattle division in 1627.[1] On 22 May 1627, John Winslow and Mary Winslow as members of the company of John Shaw were awarded cows and goats as part of a Plymouth Colony division of cattle.[4] She died between 31 July 1676 (date of will) and 11 July 1679 (probate of will).[1] Mary Chilton and her parents were also passengers on the Mayflower.

"MARY CHILTON, bp. St. Peter's Parish, Sandwich, Kent Co., England 31 May 1607; d. Boston bef. 1 May 1679. She m. Plymouth bet. July 1623 and 22 May 1627 JOHN WINSOW, b. Droitwich, Worcestershire, England 16 April 1597; d. Boston bef. 21 May 1674; son of Edward and Magdalen (Ollyver) Winslow, and brother of Pilgrim Edward Winslow."[5]

Children of John and Mary:[1]

  1. John Winslow Jr. b say 1628
  2. Susanna (Winslow) Latham b say 1630
  3. Mary (Winslow) Gray b say 1632
  4. Edward Winslow b say 1636
  5. Sarah (Winslow) Middlecott b say 1639
  6. Isaac Winslow b say 1641
  7. Joseph Winslow b say 1643
  8. Samuel Winslow (abt.1641-1680)
  9. Unknown Winslow (bef.1650-bef.1673) b say 1651
  10. Benjamin Winslow b say 12 Aug 1653 Plymouth

Property and Positions

After John Winslow came to the Plymouth Plantation on the ship "Fortune" 3 Nov 1621, he remained in Plymouth as a Purchaser and was on the 1633 freeman list. On 25 Jul 1633, the court noted that John Beavan had covenanted to serve John Winslow as an apprentice for six years. On 23 Jul 1634, Mr. Timothy Hatherly turned over his servant, Ephraim Tinkham, to John Winslow for the rest of his term. On 3 Mar 1634/35, Winslow was on a committee to assess colonists for the costs of the watch and other charges. On 5 Jan 1635/36, he was on a committee to set the prices of goods and labor. In 1636, he turned over the services of Edmond Weston for two years to Nathaniel Thomas. In 1637, he was on a committee to assess taxes for the cost of sending men to the Pequot War. In 1638, he and his brother, Kenelm, were witnesses against Stephen Hopkins for selling wine at excessive rates. He served on various other committees and juries and as a deputy for Plymouth. On 28 Jul 1640 he sold for 12 pounds, the services of Joseph Grosse for five years to John Howland. On 17 Oct 1642, he was one of several men appointed to grant lands for the town of Plymouth. In 1653, he was appointed to the Council of War. He moved to Boston about 1655/56. It was in Boston he became a wealthy merchant and ship owner, though he still retained lands at Plymouth, and in 1662 he was on a list of "first born" men of Plymouth to share in a land distribution. The New England Winslows were Episcopaleans (p 374).[6]

He was active in local affairs and one of the signatories to an Address of Loyalty presented to King Charles II on his restoration to the throne in 1660. His home was in Spring Lane, Boston, a narrow alleyway running from Washington Street to Devonshire Street near Water Street. It is now marked by a plaque which was unveiled in 1924 by three-year-old Mary Chilton Winslow, a direct descendant of John Winslow and Mary Chilton.

Gov. Edward Winslow placed his brother, John, in charge of the Kennebec Trading Post, where he remained from 1651 to 1654/1655. In 1655/1656, John moved to Boston, where he remained. Moving his residency did not end John's interest in the Kennebec Post. In Oct 1661, the Kennebec patent of the Plymouth Colony, nearly one thousand square miles containing not more than three hundred white people, was purchased by Antipas Boyes, Edward Tyng, Thomas Brattle and John Winslow. The site of the Kennebec Post, Cushnoc, is now Augusta, Maine. [NEHGR, Vol. 21 (Year 1867), p. 353; "The History of Kennebec County" (p 13).[7]

Last Will & Testament

The will of John Winslow dated 12 Mar 1673/74 and proved 21 May 1674 and 31 Jul 1674. (Suffolk Prob. Rec., VI, 50).[7] After a preamble commending his soul to God etc., revoking previous wills, and ordering his debts to be paid, he makes bequest to the following: his wife Mary, his son John; William Payne (not 21), the son of his daughter, Sarah Middlecott; Parnell Winslow (not 21), daughter of his son Isaac; the daughters (not of age) of his daughter Latham; son Benjamin (not 21); son Edward; granddaughter Susanna Latham (not 21); son Edward's children (not of age); the children (not of age) of Edward Grey by his daughter Mary; two children of his son, Joseph: who he said "I give unto my son Joseph's two children...to be paid to them as aforesaid (vis. when they come of age or the day of their respective marriages.); granddaughter Mercy Harris's two children; kinsman Josiah Winslow, the Governor of Plymouth; brother Josiah Winslow; kinswoman Eleanor Baker, the daughter of his brother Kenelm; a total of seven children; Mr. Paddeys Widdow; negro girl Jane when she serves 20 years from this date and after decease of wife to be set free. Son John was named overseer and Mr. Thomas Brattle, Mr William Tailer and Mr John Winsley were named overseers.[6][8]

Death and Legacy

John died between 12 March 1673/4 (will written) and 21 May 1674 (will probated) at Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts.[1] He was buried in King's Chapel, Boston, Suffolk Co., Massachusetts although the exact grave site is not now able to be located (p 11).[2]

In 1673, John Winslow appointed his "loving friend Mr. Thomas Brattle," one of the overseers of his estate (p 13).[7] The inventory, taken 27 October 1674, totaled £2,946 (a substantial sum for the time).[1] £450 was in his dwelling and garden, and most of the value was in ownership of trade vessels, goods, and debts due.[1]

Among John Winslow's descendants were Brigadier-general John Winslow, paymaster of the American forces in the Revolution; General Joshua Winslow, who held a similar position in the British Army; Susanna Clarke, the wife of Copley, the artist, whose mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Edward Winslow; Dr. Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, mayor of Boston and antiquarian; and Admiral John A. Winslow.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volume III, Pages 2027-2030. (Online database accessed November 11, 2015: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010) $
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Winslow, Lester E., "Winslow Family Heritage. 1 Jul 1965, Pages 9, 11.
  3. Walker, John, "John Walker Family Newsletter, 1982. No. 1, Page 3
  4. Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed., Records of the colony of New Plymouth, in New England (Printed by order of the legislature of the commonwealth of Massachusetts, Boston, 1861), volume 12, page 11
  5. Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Vol. 15, p. 5-6 #3.
  6. 6.0 6.1 Stratton, Eugene Aubrey, Plymouth Colony: Its History and Its People 1620-1691]., Salt Lake City, UT: Ancestry Publishing, 1986, GoogleBooks.com preview. Pages 84, 374.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Jones, Mrs. A. Waldo, "Joseph Winslow and Timothy Winslow and Other Records pertaining to the family of John and Mary (Chilton) Winslow For the Archives of The General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Vinings, Georgia: May 1969. Page 13.
  8. Suffolk County, MA: Probate File Papers.Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2017-2019. (From records supplied by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Archives. Digitized mages provided by FamilySearch.org) Link at AmericanAncestors ($) Accessed at Ancestry ($)

See also:

  • Wikipedia article on John Winslow.
  • George Thomas Little, A. M., Litt. D., Genealogical and Family History of the State of Maine. Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York 1909.
  • Roser, Susan E. "Mayflower Increasings (For Three Generations), Genealogical Publishing Co., Balt. 1989, Page 41.
  • Winslow, Stephen, Winslow Genealogy, John Winslow from web.archive.org.
  • Maynard, Mary. "Dead and Buried in New England: Respectful Visits to the Tombstones and Monuments of 306 Noteworthy Yankees, (Dublin, NH: Yankee Publishing Inc., 1993).
  • Holton, David-Parsons, Winslow memorial: family records of Winslows and their descendants in America, with the English ancestry as far as known. New York: D.-P. Holton, 1877. Vol. 1, Page 60.
  • Hotten, John Camden. The Original Lists Of Persons Of Quality.;; 1874) Page xxix

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One of his great-grandchildren, Edward Payne-6741, writes that John Winslow had 5 sons and 5 daughters. Edward lists most of John's children correctly, but leaves out Benjamin (died young) and includes two daughters. One married "Mr. Southward" and the other married "Mr. Little". This is interesting by itself, but more so considering that Anderson does include an unknown child. These names don't appear in the John's will or in Mary's will, so they either died, remarried, or Edward is wrong. See https://books.google.com/books?id=L8MoAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA11
posted by Rick Pierpont
I wonder if he's confusing generations? Daughter Mary Winslow who married Edward Gray had daughters Desire (m Nathaniel Southworth) & Sarah (m. Samuel Little).
posted by M Cole
Thanks. Yes, I agree. Since John was still having children in the 1650s, and both Desire and Sarah were born in the 1650s, I can see this as a source for the confusion.
posted by Rick Pierpont
Winslow-3267 and Winslow-77 appear to represent the same person because: Same person. Everything matches. Part of a new duplicated family tree.
posted by Ellen Smith
Winslow-3268 and Winslow-77 appear to represent the same person because: Unquestionably the same person. Please merge.
posted by Ellen Smith
The proper way to handle all this controversy is to summarize and post in a =Research Notes=.
posted by Nick Dann
Would you have time and interest to do that, Nick?

I'm happy to have done the initial research evidenced in my comments below, but I don't have more time to spend on this profile -- being pretty far behind in the other 472 (well, it feels like 472) Great Migration profiles, and their lineages, to which I'm previously committed.

posted by Christopher Childs
I would be happy to have a look...I may ask for a little help , if you are willing.
posted by Nick Dann
Please feel free, Nick. A little more clarity would be helpful on this one, perhaps you can find the right words.

Thanks!

Bobbie
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
The marriage date in the data section is "about 22 May 1627," and in the biography it is given as "between July 1623 and 22 May 1627." This is internally inconsistent. In addition the only source cited for the marriage is Anderson's profile of John Winslow, but that is not what Anderson says. Anderson says only that they had married BY 22 May 1627. If the rationale for the earlier date is the one-acre allocation in the 1623 land division, the rationale should be stated and supported with appropriate sourcing.
posted by Stuart Bloom
The marriage change I made was NOT unsourced. Here’s the source: "Maine Vital Records, 1670-1921," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q21S-Q8CP : 30 August 2020), John Winslow and Mary Chilton, 12 Oct 1624; citing Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine, United States, multiple sources, Maine; FHL microfilm.

You can say that you think it’s in error, but it’s not ok to just delete a valid source.

The source you provided was an old, privately printed family genealogy that cited no sources. The information you replaced was sourced with Anderson's Great Migration Begins, which is a current, high quality series that provides original source material. It does not compare in any way with the Ancestry of John A. Hicks and His Wife Ada E. Rowe of Auburn, Maine. If you had consulted, via coments on the profile or via G2G, if the source you were using was reliable, you would have been advised that it is not, and to see: PGM Project Reliable Sources. When changes are made to a profile that is under the management of a Project, it is indeed "ok" to remove unreliable sources that have been added without consultation or collaboration. Please read further in Help: pre-1700 Profiles where many of these points are covered.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
In addition to what Bobbie posted, any source that says a marriage occurred in Lewiston, Androscoggin, Maine, in 1624 is prima facie bogus, unless the marriage was between two people of the Abenaki nation. The first European settlers in the area did not come until the 1760s, Lewiston was chartered in 1795, Maine did not exist until 1820, and Androscoggin County dates only from 1854.
posted by Stuart Bloom
To be fair, the record shown on FamilySearch places the marriage at Plymouth. But, as Bobbie notes, this is embedded in a private genealogy focused on Maine.

It is problematical that FamilySearch, on which so many of us rely for data, provided without charge, chooses to intermix with original records -- under the same heading,"Vital Records" -- material that is not primary, and not clearly sourced in primary records.

posted by Christopher Childs
The marriage date range from July 1623 to late May or early June 1627 apparently originates, at least in part, with Torrey's New England Marriages; Torrey also offers a tentative "?12 Oct 1624":

"WINSLOW, John (1597-1674) & Mary CHILTON; betw Jul 1623 & 1 Jun 1627, ?12 Oct 1624; Plymouth {Drown (ms) 50; Brett 68; Davol-Willets 52; Coffin Anc. 24-29; Warner-Harrington 111, 783; Foster 550; Foster Anc. 71; Reed (1956); MD 1:65+, 2:116, 3:129+, 34:8"

-- Torrey Vol. 3, p. 1698; New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015; https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21176/1698/426910771 (by subscription)

The Hicks genealogy appears to have taken the "12 Oct 1624" date as gospel, but does not tell us why, rendering it questionable as a source. The origin of the claim presumably lies somewhere among the source titles noted (in their abbreviated form) by Torrey... if anyone wants to dig further into the question.

posted by Christopher Childs
The dates come from the land division in 1623 when he was clearly unmarried, and the cattle division in 1627 when he was clearly married.

I believe the 12 October 1624 date comes from an IGI submission (and so is wide spread on the internet), but it pertains to a marriage at Canterbury, Kent, England, and so clearly does not belong to this John Winslow.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Added project protection to try to avoid future changes made without consulting with project.

Profile Managers: Please continue to manage the profile as normal. Thank you.

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Agreed, all relationships as currently shown are accurate. PPP is valid and valuable.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I don't see any sources in that site. Was there something there you think should be included in this profile?
posted by S (Hill) Willson
The sorce is the reference from the family, My ancestor grandparents are John Winslow and Mary Chilton

https://www.winslowheritagesociety.org/john.html

posted by Sharon Smith
Thanks. That site is referencing Mayflower Families, volume 15, which is included in the sources for this profile.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Winslow-3114 and Winslow-77 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly intended to represent same spouse of the Mayflower passenger. Please merge.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Good catch, Deb, thanks!
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Bobbie,

The transcription on archive.org is missing an entire section, so probably shouldn't be used as a source. There is a full transcription here.

posted by Deb (Lewis) Durham
Winslow-1253 and Winslow-77 appear to represent the same person because: sorry for the duplicate
posted by Casey Clark

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