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Cornelis Corneliszen Viele (bef. 1643 - bef. 1690)

Cornelis Corneliszen (Cornelis Cornelisen) Viele aka Cornelissen, Cornelisz, Viel, Vile, FIele
Born before in New Amsterdam, New Netherlandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died before at about age 46 in Schenectady, Albany County, Province of New Yorkmap
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Biography

Cornelis Cornelisen Viele. Born BEF 5 FEB 1643 New Amsterdam, New Netherlands [now New York City], New York Co., New York, USA. He was the son of Cornelis Volkertsen Viele \ Vilen \ Wilen and Maria Philippe du Trieux.

He married Suster Hendrickse Bous \ Bouts. Born ABT 1647 Schenectady, Schenectady Co., New York, USA. Died AFT 1690 . Children of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele and Suster Hendrickse Bous \ Bouts are:

1. Debora Viele. Born ABT 1673 Schenectady, Schenectady Co., New York, USA. Died 1722 .

Christening: 5 FEB 1643. Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam, New Netherlands [now New York City], New York Co., New York, USA.

Cornelis Cornelisen Viele was the son of Cornelis Volkertsen Viele and Maria du Trieux. Cornelis Cornelisen Viele was baptized on 5 February 1643 at New Amsterdam, New Netherland. 1 He married Suster Bouts. Cornelis Cornelisen Viele died circa 1690 at Schenectady, NY.

Cornelius lost his father, Cornelius Volkertszen when he was only six years of age. His father's place was quickly taken (1650), according to the custom of the times, by Jan Peek.

Under the care of a very capable mother and that active trader, his Step-father, he grew up with an understanding of the Indian -- his ways, his language and his manner of trading -- which fitted him to be an interpreter, as was his brother, Aernout, a friend of the Red man, and also, no doubt, somewhat of a trader in his tavern in Schenectardy. There is record of his acting as interpreter and of his refusing to so ace.

There is a record of a gift to him from the Indians, which vouches for their friendly feeling, and doubtless, their sense of obligation, for the Indians never forgot a friend any more than they did an enemy.

The earliest recorded mention of him as an adult appears to be on 7 March 1661, when notary public Dirck van Schelluyne took depositions from witnesses regarding a canoe that was stolen from Cornelis Cornelissen Viele (also identified in the record as Cornelis Cornelisz Fiele).[1]

His license as a tavern keeper in Schenectady was granted him in 1672 as a special favor from the Albany authorities for services rendered to them, so that while he may not have been as brilliant as his brother, Aernout, He was a dignified substantial, and worthy representative of that brave and hardy bank of pioneers who held for many years the outposts of civilization in New York State. It has been reported that a party was being held at his tavern the night of a bloody Indian massacre. He probably survived since his name is on the list of survivors to receive assistance, but he undoubtedly died shortly thereafter, perhaps from his wounds.

After 1690 he is no longer mentioned in the records and his tavern was taken over by Douve Aukes who also adopted his son, Cornelis JR. Aukes may have married Suster (CC Viele's Widow) after his death. The name "Suster" was perpetuated in the family for 150 years since each descendant had named a child, Suster. The name is not in any other record of early Dutch Families in New York. [2]

Children of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele and Suster Bouts:
  1. Jannetje Viele
  2. Cornelis Viele
  3. Elizabeth Viele
  4. Pieter Viele
  5. Blandina Viele
  6. Annetje Viele
  7. Volkert Viele
  8. Debora Viele (c 1673)

Christening

5 FEB 1643 New Amsterdam, NY

Church records

  • 1643 Feb 05 Cornelis, Cornelis Volckertszen. Wit.: Philip du Trieux, Anneken Bogardus, Gerrit Molenaer. [3]

Sources

  1. Early records of the city and county of Albany, and colony of Rensselaerswyck. Translated from the original Dutch by Jonathan Pearson. Rev. and edited by A. J. F. Van Laer. v. 3, Notarial 1-2, 1600-1696. Albany County (N.Y.) pages 57-58.
  2. Records of the Reform Dutch Church of New Amsterdam, baptisms.
  3. Thomas Grier Evans. "Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York." In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. II. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  • Viele Records, 1613-1913: Being a Revised and Enlarged Edition of the Viele Genealogy published in 1909, under the title Two Hundred And Fifth Years with a Dutch family of New York</i> (Kathlyne Knickerbacker Viele : New York : 1913).

page 94: Cornelius lost his father, Cornelius Volkertszen when he was only six years of age. His father's place was quickly taken (1650), according to the custom of the times, by Jan Peek. Under the care of a very capable mother and that active trader, his Step-father, he grew up with an understanding of the Indian -- his ways, his language and his manner of trading -- which fitted him to be an interpreter, as was his brother, Aernout, a friend of the Red man, and also, no doubt, somewhat of a trader in his tavern in Schenectady. There is record of his acting as interpreter and of his refusing to so ace. There is a record of a gift to him from the Indians, which vouches for their friendly feeling, and doubtless, their sense of obligation, for the Indians never forgot a friend any more than they did an enemy. His license as a tavern keeper in Schenectady was granted him in 1672 as a special favor from the Albany authorities for services rendered to them, so that while he may not have been as brilliant as his brother, Aernout, he was a dignified substantial, and worthy representative of that brave and hardy bank of pioneers who held for many years the outposts of civilization in New York State. It has been reported that a party was being held at his tavern the night of a bloody Indian massacre. He probably survived since his name is on the list of survivors to receive assistance, but he undoubtedly died shortly thereafter, perhaps from his wounds. After 1690 he is no longer mentioned in the records and his tavern was taken over by Douve Aukes who also adopted his son, Cornelis Jr. Aukes may have married Suster (Cornelis Cornelisen Viele's widow) after his death. The name "Suster" was perpetuated in the family for 150 years since each descendant had named a child, Suster. The name is not in any other record of early Dutch Families in New York. Suster Bouts married Douve Aukes? after 1690.

Albany Records: Appeared before us, undersigned, commissaries of Albany, etc., Claes Frederickse Van Pette, and Cornelis Cornelise Viele, husbandmen, dwelling at Schaenhechtade, who acknowledge that they are well and truly indebted to Martin Cornelise in the quantity of two hundred and twenty beavers reckened at eight guilders a piece, growing out of a matter of two remaining installments for the purchase and payment of a certain bouwery, dwelling house, barn and three ricks, with four horses, five milch cows, eight hogs, cart, plough and harrow, purchased by the subscribers from him according to contract thereof of date the 4/14 July 1667 which aforesaid sum of two hundred and twenty beavers, the subscribers according to the tenor and contents, thereof, promise to pay to wit: one hundred and ten beavers in the month of February 1669, and the remaining one hundred and ten beavers in the month of February 1670, punctually; pledging especially the aforesaid bouwery and effects and further generally their persons and estates personal and real, having and to come, nothing excepted, subject to all laws. Claes Frederickse. Cornelis Cornelise Viele. Done in Albany the 23, October 1668.

In 1671 he received his license as a tapster in Schenectady; the license reads: "Lycence for Cornelys Cornelysen Vielen to tapp strong Beer & Liquors at Schanechtide.". "Whereas Cornelys Cornelysen Vielen of Schanectide having made his address to ye commissaryes at Albany desireing that hee may have Liberty to tapp Strong Beere & Liquors and to keep an Ordinary, in Recompense for severall services done by him between them and the Maquaes the w'ch they have recommended to mee for my approbation. But in regard there is a person already there (by name Aques Cornelyssen Gautch, and Indian) that doth the same by Lycense and appointment of my Predecessor, Coll. Richard Nicolls, would give no determination thereon and it being likewise represented that the said Aques hath not sufficient accommodacon for strangers w'ch the said Cornelys Cornelyssen Vielen doth promise to be well provided off, for the reliefe of Strangers and Travellers, Upon consideracon had hereupon I have thought fitt to grant the request of the said Cornelys cornelyssen &c. Done Jan 9, 1671. (At Ft. James in New York) F. Lovelace.". There is a proviso to this license, namely, that "the said Cornelys Cornelyssen doe not presume to sell any strong Liquors to the Indians to cause any disturbance that way under the penalty of forfeiting this license and paying such Fine as the Law shall Require.". On the 15th of Aug., 1671, Cornelis Viele received a patent to confirm to him a parcel of land at Schenectady on the north side of the Mohawk river, "beginning at a certain oaken tree markt on the east and west sides thereof and so goes alongst the river S. S., east to the point containing in breadth 130 rods and from the hindmost lot of bouwland belonging to Gerrit Bancker and running along the bush or woodside northwest, its in length 132 rods; all the said land as it lyes having been markt out by the Indians at the utmost limit thereof; as also a certain island (Sassians') bounded on ye south side by the Maqaaees river over against the north end of Jacques Cornelissen's island, on the north-east side with a creek or kil that lies by the aforementioned Hoeke or bouwland, containing in bigness fourteen acres, or seven morgans of land.". On Feb 23, 1680-1, on the Albany Court Minutes is the report of Cornelis Cornelissen Viele that "French trappers coming to Schenectady from the Sinekis country told that war had been declared by Holland and France against England and that the Governor of Canada has pardoned and called up all the Coureurs des Bois (Bosloopers, traders), 600 or 700 in number.". Cornelius Viele, senior, also had a gift of land from the natives at the Aal Plaas on the north side of the river. This tract extended two miles down the river and five miles into the woods. The certificate is dated 12 Feb 1718/19, and states that Viele had possession of it eighteen years and then had sold it to his daughter Jannetje, wife of Johannes Dyckman, who left it at the time of the massacre, after occupying it for two years.

Sketches of Allied Families: Knickerbacker-Viele, Historical and Genealogical (Kathlyne Knickerbacker Viele; Tobias A. Wright, printer and publisher, New York, 1916). The name of Suster, wife of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele of Schenectady was Suster Bous (Bouts). She was without doubt the daughter of Hendrick Lambertse Bout, alias Sassian. Bout settled early in Schenectady upon land called Poversens Landeryn lying mainly upon the first lock west of the city. Part of this land he sold 27 September, 1692, to Douve Aukes for 60 beaver at 8 guilders each 'for his son Cornelis Viele and removed to Claverack.' On the 14th of February, 1703/4, Aukes transferred this land to Cornelis Viele and the same day Jan Bout, son of Hendrick Lambertsen Bout confirmed the same to Aukes. The island called Sassians also came into the possession of the Viele family who long owned it and gave it their name. On 28 July 1700, Suster, daughter of Cornelis Viele and Debora Van Petten was baptized in Schenectady and her sponsors were Douve Aukes and Suster Bous. This can be no other than the mother of Cornelis Viele and it appears probable that Suster Bous (Bouts) married Douve Aukes after the death of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele. This would make it perfectly natural that Douve Aukes should have made Cornelis Viele his heir. The break in the records would account for the marriage not being noted. In 1697 Douve Aukes is recorded as being the head of a family in Schenectady in which there were two adult women. Douve Aukes continually in legal papers calls Cornelis Viele his son and it would appear likely that when Douve Aukes took over the Viele Inn corner of Mill and State Streets in Schenectady, he married the widow as well as adopted the son of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele. The discovery of Suster Bous' (Bouts) family name does away with the theory that she was "possibly of Indian blood." The first wife of Douve Aukes was Maria Arnoutse Viele, his adopted son was the cousin of his first wife and his second wife her aunt by marriage. (See History of the Schenectady Patent and Schenectady Church Records.)" [pages 123-4].

Acknowledgements

  • This person was created through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged on 13 September 2010.
  • WikiTree profile Viele-32 created through the import of Smith_Wood Family Tree.ged on Feb 22, 2012 by Brock Smith.




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Glad I could help you confirm the correct last name Ellen.

Rick

posted by Rick Gardiner
The project account needs to be a profile manager on project-protected and project-managed profiles. In the future please refrain from removing the project account from profile manager status.
posted by Ellen Smith
That seems reasonable. Perhaps you should notify the profile manager before you do it.
posted by Rick Gardiner
Both of these profiles are project-protected so that the merge will be delayed until after the LNAB is determined. Please see the note I left on Corneliszen-7 regarding the LNAB and respond as appropriate.
posted by Ellen Smith
There is a merge proposal for this profile. Before it can be completed, we'll have to (1) deal with the duplicate profiles for the parents and (2) determine his LNAB.

Cornelis' father was using a patronym at the time of Cornelis' baptism, but the baptism doesn't give the child a last name, so the New Netherland project naming conventions direct us to look for the last name he was recorded with later. The earliest record I could find is from 1661, when a canoe was stolen from 18-year-old Cornelis. That record uses a last name of Fiele or Viele, so I conclude that his LNAB should be Viele -- unless someone else has another record to examine, or other information. Anyone?

posted by Ellen Smith
Corneliszen-7 and Viele-172 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate.
posted by Rick Gardiner
Information about Cornelis Viele is also found in "Johannes Dyckman of Fort Orange" on page 14. https://archive.org/stream/johannesdyckmano01cham#page/14/mode/1up
posted by S Leonard

Rejected matches › Cornelis Viele (1676-1748)

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