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Lietgardis (Unknown) Vermandois (abt. 860 - aft. 880)

Lietgardis Vermandois formerly [surname unknown]
Born about [location unknown]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married before 0880 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 20 [location unknown]
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Biography

Name

Cawley refers to Lietgardis, but without an indication of parents or surname. [1]

Birth

Lietgardis was born, say 860. See estimation under marriage.

Marriage

There having been no issues regarding the legitimacy of his children, Heribert was married. However, Baldwin, the source most unwilling to surmise, states that Heribert's wife or wives are unknown. [2]

Cawley notes that Heribert, Count of Vermandois married Lietgardis. [1]

Since Heribert's children were born between, say 880 and 890, his marriage to their mother may be estimated to be about the year 879 and their mother was then born, say 860.

Death

Cawley reports that Lietgardis died 27 May, in a year after 880 [1]

Issue

Since her marriage to Heribert I is a matter of conjecture, see his profile for a list of the children.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Cawley, Charles. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Hosted online by the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG), accessed 2021, Comtes de Vermandois.
  2. Baldwin, Stewart. "Heribert I," The Henry Project.




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This profile seems to be the same person as Robertian-15. Both are married to Heribert Vermandois (d. 923). Baldwin lists only one wife for Heribert. Same with Richardson, Douglas, "Royal Ancestry", 2013, Vol 5, p 485. Both Baldwin or Richardson say she is an unknown daughter of Robert I, King of France (d 923).
posted by David Kearns
While Baldwin lists the wife of Heribert as unknown, he clearly states that she is the daughter of Robert I (d 923), King of France..
posted by David Kearns
The above link to Baldwin's Henry Project is now outdated. This project has been moved to The American Society of Genealogists' website. This reference can be accessed here https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/herib002.htm
posted by David Kearns
The book "Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants. Volume III," on page 246, states "Herbert I, ... ; m. Bertha de Morvois." Wikipedia says "a possible Bertha." I see that WikiTree has removed the link to https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Morvois-3 as the wife of Herbert I. Still, without better evidence than that found by the Order of the Crown of Charlemagne in the United States of America (up to the publication date of 1978) I think this possible relationship at least deserves discussion in the "Marriage" section, since there is at least the possibility that it is the correct wife of Herbert.
posted by Bill Schultz
Could this profile be set to Open privacy level. She is definitely older than 200 years, and probably needs to be merged.
posted by John Atkinson

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