Edrie Ivy (Taylor) Roach (abt. 1888 - 1968)

Born about 13 Feb 1888 in Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, United States

Ancestors

Daughter of James M. Taylor and Emily Almedia (Langford) Quince

Wife of Emmit Alexander Roach — married 26 Feb 1923 (to 14 Jan 1932) in Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Descendants

Died 28 Aug 1968 at about age 80 in Knollwood Hospital, Riverside, Riverside County, California, United States

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Biography

Edrie Ivy Taylor, daughter of James M. Taylor and Emily Almedia (Langford) Taylor, was probably born 13 Feb. 1889 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska. Her mother's divorce petition and Edrie's death records have 1889 as her date of birth, Edrie's baptism record has 1888.^[1] She was baptized on 5 April 1894 at Lafayette Park Presbyterian Church, Saint Louis, Saint Louis Co., Missouri. Her name caused confusion all of her life, starting with her baptism record that shows that she was a male.^[2] She appeared on the census of 1 June 1900 in the household of her step-father, Frederick William Quince, and her mother at 725 Vallejo St., Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California.^[3]

She married Herman August Thurk on 15 May 1907.^[4]

She and Herman appeared on the census of 15 April 1910 at Bertha Village, Todd Co., Minnesota.^[5] She and Herman lived on 12 Sep. 1918 at Bertha, Todd Co., Minnesota.^[6] She and Herman appeared on the census of 21 Jan. 1920 at Redondo, Los Angeles Co., California.^[7] She and Herman were divorced circa 1921. They did not have any children.

She married Emmit Alexander Roach, son of John Roach and Sarah (Patterson) Roach, on 26 Feb. 1923 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California.^[8] She stated that she had been married once before, Emmit failed to mention his prior marriage or marriages.

She was living on 2 July 1926 at 345 Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.^[9] She and Emmit lived in 1928 at 500 Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.^[10] She was a maid in a private home when she appeared on the census of 7 April 1930 at 500 W. Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.^[11]

Edrie filed for divorce from Emmit on 14 Oct. 1930. The divorce was final on 14 Jan. 1932.^[12] She was a nurse in a private home when she appeared on the census of 5 April 1940 at 500 Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.^[13] She lived in 1945 at Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California. She appeared on the census of 17 May 1950 in the home of her daughter at 839 N. Main St., Riverside, Riverside County, California.^[14] She lived in 1955 at 3770 Placentia Ln., Riverside, Riverside Co., California.^[15]

She received a land patent in San Bernardino Co., California on 24 Dec. 1958 for 80 acres of desert land.^[16] She did have a garage built on some land in the desert, it had no water and probably no electricity. The land was never developed.

She lived in 1968 at 3730 Columbia St., Riverside, Riverside Co., California. Edrie died on 28 Aug. 1968 at Knollwood Hospital, Riverside, Riverside Co., California, at age 79 and was buried at Olivewood Cemetery, Riverside, Riverside Co.^[17] Her memorial has a photo of her headstone.^[18]

My Grandmother - Edrie

Of my grandparents, I knew Edrie best. As an infant she took me to live with her near Barstow, San Bernardino, California while my mother took care of my younger sister, Mary. Of course I do not remember but both she and my mother mentioned it several times. Edrie probably was working as a cook and housekeeper on a small ranch. She worked as a cook or practical nurse all of her life. One of her jobs was with a hot dog or hamburger cart on weekends at Griffith Park in Los Angeles County. Her children liked that because they would usually get at least one hot dog. Another was a cook at a small café in the desert called "The Thing", on display were mummified human remains. Why someone would want that at a café I do not know but I remember the display.

She owned several acres on Placentia Lane. There were at least two homes on the property. Her son James built part of one and the other was moved on to the property. She raised chickens and sometimes rabbits which she killed and sold from her home. The chicks came by mail, she had a incubator for them.

Edrie was a very good cook. We went to her home for dinner on Thanksgiving a few times and she served not only turkey but also a ham with all of the extras that you could imagine. There were only seven people so there was no reason to have both meat dishes but I always remembered how much food there was. She always made fresh bread to go with the meal. Her biscuits were the best I have ever had.

On Friday evenings, I and my siblings, would go to her home to watch television, we did not have one at our house. She made quilts and stuffed toys. I often wondered what happened to the toys until I realized that she cut up the old ones and used them as a pattern for the new ones. I think there is only one left, a red zebra. I learned how to do embroidery and make quilts from her as well as how to kill and clean chickens. She usually did not have milk at her home, I learned to drink my coffee black by the time I was 10. - Phil Smith 28 April 2015.

Census

1 June 1900

725 Vallejo St., Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California.

• Quince, Fred W. b. Oct. 1867 age 33 m 9 yrs b. England imigrated 1868 Naturalized 32 yrs.
• Emma A. wife b. Sep 1858 age 41. 4 children 2 living b. WI, f. b. OH m. b. NY.
• Taylor, Imael step-son b. June 1888 age 11 b. NE.
• Taylor, Edrie step-dau. b. Feb 1890 age 10 b. NE f. b. OH m b. WI.
• Taylor, Fred Q. step-son ( is son and last name is Quince pws) b. Jul 1893 age 6 b. NV f. b. OH m. b WI.^[3]

15 April 1910

Bertha Village, Todd Co., Minnesota.

• Thurk, Herman A. age 28 m. 3 years b. MN blacksmith.
• Edrie I. wife age 21 m. 3 years b. NE, f. b. WI, m. b WI.^[5]

21 Jan. 1920

Redondo, Los Angeles Co., California.

• Thurk, Herman A. age 38 b. MN farmer.
• ___ wife age 30 b. NE; f. b. NE; m. b. WI. (Edrie's name is not written in the record but the description is hers.)^[7]

7 April 1930

500 W. Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.

• Quince, Emily age 72, widow, b. WI, f. b. OH, m. b. NY.
• Roach, Edrie dau. age 41 widow (sic) b. NE , f. b. MO, m. b. WI working as maid in private home.^[11]

5 April 1940

500 Pepper St., Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., California.

• Edrie Roach 50 widow b. NE nurse in a private home.
• Jim Roach 16 son. b.CA.
• Myrtle Roach 13 dau. b. CA.
• William Soward 58 lodger.^[13]

17 May 1950

839 N. Main St., Riverside, Riverside County, California

• Philip G Smith 37 Head b. KS general business printing.
• Myrtle E Smith 23 Wife b. CA.
• Philip W Smith 3 Son b. CA.
• Mary E Smith 2 Daughter b. CA.
• Douglas E Smith Feb. Son b. CA.
• Edrie Roach 61 Mother-in-law widow b. CA (sic)^[14]

DNA Confirmation

• Paternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group consisting of Kay(Mewer) Spear - GEDMatch ID: F356772, Loren A. Bertocci - GEDMatch ID: T750999 and Philip W. Smith - GEDmatch ID: T618013 sharing a common segment on chromosome 14 from 50,275,895 to 56,703,577. The common ancestor pair is John T. Archibald Sr. (1693 - 1751)] and Margaret (Wilson) Archibald (abt. 1695 - aft. 1751).

• Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group consisting of cousins: Philip Smith – GEDMatch ID: T618013; Alice (Brooks) Becker – GEDMatch ID: A936531; Michelle (DeRemer) Byron – GEDMatch ID: M394878 sharing a 23.9 cM segment on chromosome 19. Smith_Brooks_DeRemer_3_Way_DNA_Confirmation shows documentation. The common ancestor pair is Robert Burdick and Ruth (Hubbard) Burdick.

Sources

1. ↑ Divorce Petition Emily A. Taylor vs. James M. Taylor, District Court Douglas Co. NE. Jan. 22, 1891.
   • " Edrie Taylor, a girl, was born Feb. 13, 1889, have lived in NE since marriage
2. ↑ Baptism certificate Edrie Taylor Author: Samuel C. Palman. Collection of Phil Smith.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Year: 1900; Census Place: Los Angeles Ward 1, Los Angeles, California; Roll: 88; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0005; FHL microfilm: 1240088 1900 US Census. Fred W Quince.
4. ↑ Unable to find document in my files with date. Her marriage to Emmit Roach has her name as Edrie Thurk, she mentioned his name to me a number of times. - Phil Smith 4/28/2015.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} Year: 1910; Census Place: Bertha, Todd, Minnesota; Roll: T624_727; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0168; FHL microfilm: 1374740 1910 US Census Herman A. Thurk.
6. ↑ U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Herman August Thurk. Edrie is listed as his wife.
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1} Year: 1920; Census Place: Redondo, Los Angeles, California; Roll: T625_118; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 536; Image: 27 1920 US Census. Herman A Thurk.
8. ↑ Marriage Certificate, copy in images.
9. ↑ Birth Certificate for her daughter, Myrtle.
10. ↑ U.S. City Directories (Beta) Name: Edrie Roach. Spouse: Emmet Roach - Foundryman.
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1} Year: 1930; Census Place: Pasadena, Los Angeles, California; Roll: 168; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 1204; Image: 209.0; FHL microfilm: 2339903 1930 US Census. Emily A Quince.
12. ↑ Final Judgement of Divorce. No. 82249. Superior Court, Los Angeles County, California.
13. ↑ ^{13.0 13.1} Year: 1940; Census Place: Pasadena, Los Angeles, California; Roll: T627_240; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 19-446 1940 US Census. Edrie Roach.
14. ↑ ^{14.0 14.1} Philip G Smith in the 1950 United States Federal Census.
15. ↑ U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta). Name: Mrs Edrie I Roach.
16. ↑ General Office Records BLM
    • "Page: SB 0100N 0030E 015 1189807 1958/12/24 ROACH EDRIE; LAMBORN DOROTHY F
17. ↑ Death certificate for Edrie Ivy Roach, Cert # 2709. Her daughter, Myrtle Smith was the informant.
18. ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #48224700 Edrie I Roach

Acknowledgments

• Thank you to Phil Smith for creating WikiTree profile Taylor-13496.