John Hopkins Palmer (1833 - 1883)

Born 26 Apr 1833 in England, United Kingdom

Husband of Eliza Ann (Redding) Palmer — married about 25 Aug 1858 in River City, Washington Territory, United States [uncertain]

Descendants

Died 30 Nov 1883 at age 50 in Cowlitz, Washington, United States

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Biography

NOTE: John Hopkins Palmer (1833-1883) is not the son of Samuel Palmer and Ann (Avery) Palmer, and his profile has now been detached from them to avoid further confusion. There are many private and public trees on Ancestry showing his connection to Samuel Palmer and Ann (Avery) Palmer but it is definitely incorrect, as clarified below in the Research Notes. Work is ongoing in an attempt to find his true parents.

NOTE: It is not known where the Hopkins middle name came from. Perhaps it was his mother's maiden name.

Possible New Information: May have arrived in New York in 1851. John Palmer age 18, Birthdate abt 1833, ship Winfield Scott. John may have immigrated, arriving on 8 November 1851 in New York, New York, United States. ^[1]

Anecdotal evidence: Marriage, 25 Aug 1858 • River City, Washington Territory although no records have been found yet to substantiate this and Eliza would have been just 15 years old.

In the 1880 census, John (age 48), Making Farm, was the married head of household in Rooster Rock Precinct, Multnomah, Oregon, United States. ^[2]

Research Notes

From a search on FreeReg.org.uk there were 17 baptisms named John Palmer between 1 January 1833 and 31 December 1833 across the whole of the UK (16 in England and 1 in Wales). There are middle names for 5 of these baptisms but there were no baptisms for John Hopkins Palmer. Perhaps he adopted his mother's maiden name as a middle name at a later stage. Of course, these are only the records that have been transcribed into FreeReg so far, so no doubt there are more possibilities.

My proposed strategy is to create WikiTree profiles for the most feasible of these 17 possibilities (i.e. start with the dates closest to the birth of JHP and ignore the 5 with middle names) and add their parents, to see if the name Hopkins turns up and to see what comes up in census records. It would be helpful to know if the given date for John Hopkins Palmer is certain, and/or whether it is a birth or baptism date, as that knowledge would permit the list of 17 to be culled even further before starting this task. I will provide links below to the profiles that are created through this process to inform any other researchers trying to find the parents of John Hopkins Palmer. Hood-4815 03:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

This profile is not for the John Palmer (1832-1889) baptised on 2 December 1832 in Puxton, Somerset, England, who is the son of Samuel Palmer (a Labourer) and Ann (Avery) Palmer, living in Wick St Lawrence, Somerset, England; he married Jemima Hewlett on 15 September 1853 in Wick St Lawrence, Somerset, England and together they had 12 children.

This profile is not for the John Palmer (bef.1833-) born in Kimpton, Hertfordshire, England in 1833 and baptised on 30 June 1833, with parents George Palmer (1798-) (a Carpenter) and Ann (Croft) Palmer (1801-). He married Ann Fitzjohn on 27 July 1861 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England.

This profile is not for the John Palmer (1836-), son of Samuel Palmer (1800-) (a Chandler) and Ann (Hodgson) Palmer (1805-), who was baptised on 17 April 1836 in St Mary, Acton, Ealing, England. He was living in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England in 1871 with his wife Emma and their sons Samuel and Henry.

This profile is not for the John, child of John Palmer & Susan, who was born on 14 May 1833 and baptised on 22 May 1836 in Wortwell, Norfolk, England. ^[3] This record includes a birth and baptism date, neither of which aligns with the profile for JHP so can be safely ignored.

This profile is not for the John Palmer (bef.1833-1910), son of James Palmer (1810-) and Margaret (Johns) Palmer (1812-), who was baptised on 11 July 1833 in Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He married Margaret Maria McNamee in 1857 and they lived all of their lives in Pembrokeshire, Wales.

This profile is not for the John Fone Palmer (1829-), son of Silvester Palmer (bef.1802-1886) and Mary Anne (Fone) Palmer (bef.1809-), who was baptised on 8 February 1829 in Stoke Sub Hamdon, Somerset, England. He married Emma Coombs (age Minor) on 5 January 1851 in Stoke Sub Hamdon, Somerset, England and together they had 13 children. Note that Emma is the daughter of William Coombes and Sarah (Hopkins) Coombes but there is no apparent link to John Hopkins Palmer.

Sources

1. ↑ Possible Immigrant Arrival: "New York, U.S., Irish Immigrant Arrival Records, 1846-1851"
   Original data: Famine Irish Entry Project, 1846-1851. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration
   Ancestry Record 5969 #478996 (accessed 22 April 2024)
   Name: John Palmer; Birth Year: abt 1833; Age: 18; Gender: Male; Embarkation: Liverpool; Ship: Winfield Scott; Occupation: Architect; Passengers: 680; Native Country: Great Britain; Destination: USA; Arrival Place: New York, New York, USA; Arrival Date: 8 Nov 1851.
2. ↑ 1880 Census: "United States Census, 1880"
   citing Volume: 2; Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Affiliate Publication Number: T9; Affiliate Line Number: 00052; Digital film/folder number: 005162039; FHL microfilm: 1255082; Image number: 693; Sheet number: 173; Sheet letter: B
   FamilySearch Record: MNCG-Q2J (accessed 1 May 2024)
   FamilySearch Image: 33SQ-GYB5-QPD
   John H Palmer (48), married, Making Farm, head of household in Rooster Rock Precinct, Multnomah, Oregon, United States. Born in England.
3. ↑ Baptism: "FreeReg UK Parish Register database"
   Norfolk; Wortwell; Independent Congregationalist; Other Transcript; File line number: 118
   FreeReg Transcription (accessed 22 April 2024)
   John Palmer baptism on 22 May 1836 (born 14 May 1833), child of John Palmer & Susan, in Wortwell, Norfolk, England.

• 1880 United States Federal Census, Year: 1880; Census Place: Rooster Rock, Multnomah, Oregon; Roll: 1082; Page: 173B; Enumeration District: 089

• Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008, https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5254&h=157364&tid=32413900&pid=100039587605&usePUB=true&_phsrc=zjP1563&_phstart=successSource

• U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007, https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=611606558

• U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10210860

• U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 for John H Palmer, 1904 Portland, Oregon, City Directory, 1904, https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/2469/15693704/1010504742?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/158539329/person/252076031784/facts/citation/802114423707/edit/record

• U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Source Citation Place: New York, New York; Year: 1851; Page Number: 787