Joseph Orme
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Joseph Orme (abt. 1822 - 1904)

Joseph Orme
Born about in Denby, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdommap
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Husband of — married 9 Sep 1845 in Denby, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdommap
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Died at about age 82 in Honeyville, Box Elder, Utah, United Statesmap
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Biography

This profile is part of the Orme Name Study.
Joseph Orme was a Latter Day Saint pioneer.
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Joseph Orme migrated from England to USA.
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Joseph Orme, son of Samuel Orme and Elizabeth Riley, was born in Denby, Derbyshire, England in about 1821-1822.

Joseph and Emily Green married by banns in Denby on 9 September 1845. Joseph was a 23-year-old collier, Emily was 19. Witnesses were Richard Orme and Elizabeth Orme.[1][2][3] Their first child was born in October 1842. The couple went on to have 13 children, six died in infancy; five lived to adulthood, married, and had children.

Joseph, Emily, and six of their children immigrated to the United States in 1863 aboard the ship Amazon departing 2 June 1863 in the care of George Quayle Cannon, licensed passenger broker for the church. The family paid ₤35 s4 at Islington, Liverpool for a Contract Ticket.[4]

The crossed the plains by ox team. Four of their children died en route to Zion. It is unknown which immigrant company they travel with in 1863. The family farmed in Box Elder County, where they lived the rest of their lives.

Citizen Joseph Orme

Joseph Orme became a citizen on 19 July 1871 in Box Elder County, Utah Territory.

Death & Burial

Joseph, 85 and widowed, died of dropsy in 1904 in Box Elder County, Utah.[5][6] He, his wife, and four children are buried in Calls Fort Cemetery, Box Elder County, Utah.

Children

  1. Herbert Orme (1842-1894), m. Emma Wheatley, 6 children
  2. James Orme (1844-1904), m. Mary Bybee, 3 children
  3. Elizabeth Orme (1847-1847), died young
  4. Mary Orme (1849-1854), died young
  5. Joseph Orme (1852-1882), m. Maria Bybee, 2 children
  6. George Orme (1854-abt.1863), died young
  7. Hannah Orme (1857-1863), died young
  8. Elijah Orme (1859-1863), died young
  9. Samuel Orme (1861-1863), died young
  10. Eliza Orme (1863-1863), died young
  11. William Orme (1864-1865), died young
  12. Heber W Orme (1866-1924), m. Nancy Stowell, 2 children
  13. Emily (Orme) Boothe (1868-1943), m. J. Boothe, 9 children

Census

England

In the 1841 census Joseph (age 19) was in Denby, Derbyshire.[7]

Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place
Samuel Orme M 50 coalminer Derbyshire, England
Hannah Orme F 25 Derbyshire, England
Samuel Orme M 20 Derbyshire, England
Joseph Orme M 19 Derbyshire, England
Eliza Orme F 16 Derbyshire, England
Mary Orme F 15 Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Orme F 14 Derbyshire, England
William Orme M 13 Derbyshire, England
Elijah Orme M 10 Derbyshire, England
Richard Orme M 5 Derbyshire, England
1851 - Denbigh, Derbyshire, England
Joseph Orme, 30, coal miner, Clay Lane in Clay Cross, Derbyshire
Emily Orme 25
Herbert Orme 9
James Orme 7
Mary Orme 2
Joseph Graham 26, lodger, coal miner
Mary A Graham 26[8]
1861 - Occupation Road, Newbold, Derbyshire, England
Joseph Orme 41 Head, coal miner, Denby, Derbyshire
Emily Orme, 35 Wife, Denby, Derbyshire
Herbert Orme, 18 Son, coal miner, Denby, Derbyshire
James Orme, 17 Son, coal miner, Denby, Derbyshire
Joseph Orme, 8 Son, Grassmore, Derbyshire
George Orme, 6 Son, Grassmore, Derbyshire
Hannah Orme, 4 Daughter, Grassmore, Derbyshire
Elijah Orme, 2 Son, Grassmore, Derbyshire[9]

Utah Territory, United States

1870 - Box Elder, Box Elder, Utah Territory
Joseph Orm 54
Emily Orm, 44
Herbert Orm, 27
James Orm, 23
Joseph Orm, 17
Heber Orm, 4
Emily Orm, 2[10]
1880 - Calls Fort, Box Elder, Utah, USA
Joseph Orme 60, Head, farmer, England
Emila Orme, 53 Wife, England
Heber Orme, 14 Son, Utah
Emily Orme, 11 Daughter, Utah[11]
1900 - Honeyville, Box Elder, Utah
Joseph Orme 81 Head farmer, England, immigration 1863, 37 years in USA, naturalized
Emily Orme, 73 Wife, England, 13 children born, 3 living; immigration 1863, 37 years in USA
Heber Orme, 34 Son, single, farm labor[12][13]

Sources

  1. ↑ Marriage: "England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973"
    England, Marriages, 1538-1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013; FHL Film Number: 498059, 942.51 D2 V26D
    Ancestry Record 9852 #16997177 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme (23) marriage to Emma Green on 9 Sep 1845 in Denby, Derby, England.
  2. ↑ "Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932"
    Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 1428 A/PI 9
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry uk Record 61409 #3300841 (accessed 6 August 2024)
    Joseph Orme (23), son of Saml Orme, marriage to Emma Green on 9 Sep 1845 in Denby, Derbyshire, England.
  3. ↑ Marriage (including original source image): "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918"
    citing Digital film/folder number: 004452023_007_M98G-3N3; FHL microfilm: 1041445; Image number: 18; Packet letter: A; Indexing batch: V01778-7
    FamilySearch Record: KBDT-1T6 (accessed 14 August 2024)
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-2P6D
    Joseph Orme (23), son of Saml Orme, marriage to Emma Green (19), daughter of Joseph Green, on 9 Sep 1845 in Denby, Denby, Derbyshire, England.
  4. ↑ Mormon Pioneer: "Utah, U.S., Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel Records, 1847-1868"
    Utah Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel Database, 1847-1868. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: FamilySearch, 2020
    Ancestry Record 62414 #53062 (accessed 9 November 2022)
    Name: Joseph Orme; Gender: Male; Birth Date: 4 Mar 1819; Record Type: Arrival; Departure Date: 1863; Arrival Date: 1863; Arrival Place: Deseret, United States; Death Date: 29 Apr 1904; Business Name: Company Unknown. London to New York
  5. ↑ Death: "Utah, U.S., Death and Military Death Certificates, 1904-1961"
    Utah State Archives; Salt Lake City, Utah; Series Number: 81448
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 9174 #27388 (accessed 9 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme death 29 Apr 1904 (age 85), son of Samuel Orme & Elizabeth Orme, in Box Elder, Utah, USA.
  6. ↑ Obituary: "Utah, Obituaries from Utah Newspapers, 1850-2005"
    citing Box Elder News, The University of Utah. J. Willard Marriott Library, Salt Lake City
    FamilySearch Record: QVSF-FY4C (accessed 14 August 2024)
    FamilySearch Image: 3QSQ-G9KV-NYNS Image number 00597
    Name: Joseph Orme; Obituary Date: 05 May 1904; Obituary Place: Utah, United States; Birth Date: 04 Mar; Birth Place: Denby, Derbyshire, England; Death Date: 28 Apr 1904; Age: 85; Dasverify: 11-AUG-14; Source Newspaper: Box Elder News; Relationship To Head: Deceased.
  7. ↑ 1841 Census: "1841 England Census"
    Class HO107, Piece 188, Book 12, Civil Parish Barrow Upon Trent, County Derbyshire, Enumeration District 11, Folio 39, Page 11, Line 11, GSU roll 241292
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry uk Record 8978 #878240 (accessed 14 November 2023)
    Joseph Orme (19) in Barrow Upon Trent in Belper registration district in Derbyshire, England. Born in Derbyshire, England.
  8. ↑ 1851 Census: "1851 England Census"
    Class: HO107; Piece: 2147; Folio: 208; Page: 31; GSU roll: 87779-87780; ED, institution, or vessel: 8a; Household Schedule Number: 121
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 8860 #10510343 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme (30) head of household on Clay Lane in Chesterfield registration district in Derbyshire, England. Born in Denbigh, Derbyshire, England.
  9. ↑ 1861 Census: "1861 England Census"
    Class: RG 9; Piece: 2530; Folio: 43; Page: 33; GSU roll: 542985; ED, institution, or vessel: 19; Household schedule number: 169
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 8767 #22456850 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme (41) head of household in Newbold and Dunston in Chesterfield registration district in Derbyshire, England. Born in Denby, Derbyshire, England.
  10. ↑ 1870 Census: "1870 United States Federal Census"
    Year: 1870; Census Place: Box Elder, Box Elder, Utah Territory; Roll: M593_1610; Page: 85B
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7163 #14624138 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orm (54), Farmer, in Box Elder, Box Elder, Utah Territory. Born in England.
  11. ↑ 1880 Census: "1880 United States Federal Census"
    Year: 1880; Census Place: Calls Fort, Box Elder, Utah; Roll: 1335; Page: 91D; Enumeration District: 006
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 6742 #20210880 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme (60), married, Farmer, head of household in Calls Fort, Box Elder, Utah, USA. Born in England.
  12. ↑ "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBDT-1T6 : Sat Jul 20 17:03:31 UTC 2024), Entry for Joseph Orme and Saml Orme, 9 Sep 1845
  13. ↑ 1900 Census: "1900 United States Federal Census"
    Year: 1900; Census Place: Honeyville, Box Elder, Utah; Roll: 1682; Page: 3; Enumeration District: 0204; FHL microfilm: 1241682
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7602 #61663432 (accessed 12 November 2022)
    Joseph Orme (81), married, Farmer, head of household in Honeyville, Box Elder, Utah. Born in England.




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Orme-81 Chris Orme
From the evidence we have, I think it is probable that Joseph was born on 4 March 1822. My reasoning is a follows:

• The baptism record could relate to a different Joseph Orme. I have not been able to see the source document but the transcriptions do not specifically mention Denby as Joseph's place of residence. Denby was in the Belper district according to https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/2353, so the record could be correct but the 7 year variance in birth date must cause us to question it.

• In the 1941 Census, it appears as though the adults ages have been rounded but the children (including Joseph, age 19) have not. Therefore, according to this data, on 6 June 1841, Joseph was 19. His birth year was therefore 1821-1822.

• At his marriage on 9 September 1845, his age was given as 23. This again gives a birth year of 1821-1822.

• Later records are not consistent, but all give an earlier birth year. This could be explained by a, not uncommon, tendency to exaggerate his age.

• The death certificate gives his age as 85 on 29 April 1904, giving a birth year of 1818-1819. The Find a Grave record gives his birth date as 4 March 1819.

• If the burial record is correct in recording his birthday as 4 March, then according to the death records he was born in 1819. However according to the 1841 Census and his marriage record his birth year would have been 1822.

• Unfortunately, with the evidence we have, we cannot be certain, but I suggest that it is probable that the 1841 Census and the marriage record are the most likely to be correct. I conclude that Joseph was probably born on 4 March 1822.

At this time, I have been unable to find any further sources to verify or disprove this theory.

posted by Chris Orme
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