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Edward Hull (1826)

Edward Hull
Born in South Weald, Essex, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 14 Aug 1854 in Hobart, Van Diemen's Land, Australiamap
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Biography

Edward Hull was a convict after the Third Fleet transported to Van Diemen's Land


The convict conduct record #23294 for Edward Hull gives an in depth description of Edward and his circumstances : On the 10 Dec 1850 he is described as being a Baker by trade, 5'5 tall, aged 23, of fair complexion, with medium sized head, brown hair, red whiskers, with oval visage, medium sized forehead, brown eyebrows, blue eyes, a meduim sized nose and mouth, and a small chin. Surgeon report good. Bled right arm. Cannot read or write. Native place South Weald.[1]

  • Note:- Aged 23 in 1850 would indicate a birth c.1827 however the statement may be indicating he was aged 23 when convicted in 1848 which would indicate a birth c.1825.


Edward Hull appears in the 1841 census living in the household of Jerimiah Davis in Brook St, South Weald, Essex, England. Those surnamed Hull in the household were described as:[2]

  • Full Name (Sex) [Aged] Birth place
  • Sarah Hull (F) [45-49] Essex
  • Susan Hull (F) [15-19] Essex
  • Alfred Hull (M) [10] Essex
  • Edward Hull (M) [15-19] Essex
    • Note:- A 1841 age range of [15-19] indicates a birth between 1822-1826.


Edward Hull was convicted in Essex at the Assizes at Chelmsford for a Sentence term of 10 years. He was transported to Van Diemen's Land [a large island that would become known as Tasmania, which now part of the country of Australia] with 315 other convicts on board the Ship Rodney, departing on the 19th August, 1850 and arriving on the 28th November, 1850[3]


The convict conduct record #23294 for Edward Hull shows he was convicted at Chelmsford Assizes on the 6 March 1848. He arrived on the 28 Nov 1850, Edward Hull was, quote, "Transported for Burglary, Single Stated this offense. Housebreaking I was caught outside by Joseph Mahew at Springfield." The record goes on to give details of various dates of his misconduct (not transcribed here) while incarcerated and that he received a final pardon on 7 Nov 1854. [1].


Convicts had to obtain permission to marry and therefore the marriage permission record of Edward Hull married Ellen Allen reveals that Edward was a convicted convict [4] transported on board the Ship 'Rodney' to Van Diemen's Land and that his wife-to-be Ellen Allen was also a convicted convict transported on board the Ship 'Duchess of Northumberland'. Permission to marry was requested on 19 Jun 1854 and granted 3 Jul 1854[5]


Edward Hull married Ellen Allen on 14 Aug 1854 in the Holy Catholic Church of Saint Joseph at Hobart Town in what is now Tasmania, Australia, with the Rev C Woody, C Chaplain officiating. Edward Hull was listed as a baker, bachelor, aged 28 and she was a servant, spinster, aged 23 who signed with a x. William and Eliza Nackett were signed as witnesses. [6] [7]

  • Note:- Edward, aged 28 in 1854 would indicate a birth c.1826
  • Note:- Ellen, aged 23 in 1854 would indicate a birth c.1831


On 18 Feb 1861, Ellen Hull (nee Allen), who arrived on the ship Midlothian as Bond, and was now residing at the rear of Grosvenor's Baker, New Town Road made an application for the eldest two of their children to be admitted to the Queen's Orphan School and they were described thus:-

NamesYearsMonthsDaysBy who baptizedReligion
Sarah Hull6112Father WoodRomanist
Ellen Hull3105Revd. P FayProtestant

The application details that Edward Hull came out to Van Diemen's Land on the ship "Rodney" as Bond and details of his and her release as best Ellen (who cannot write) can give.

Additional information in support of the application.

Edward Hull is in jail at Launceston for a breach of the Masters and Servants Act leaving his employment without notice. He has been absent four months and during the which of that time has sent his wife only One Pound.

He received a month sentence. His time has now well nigh expired. The father held a ticket-of-leave at the birth of the child Sarah and the mother was a pass holder. At the birth of the 2nd child the father had been emancipated about 3 months and the mother had held a ticket-of-leave about 4 months.

The are two other younger children, one an infant in arms dependent upon the mother for support. Both Hull and his wife are Drinking. if it were not so they had no need to be in want. The man as long as he conducted himself soberly, earned weekly £2~~ and bread & flour for his family. He is a good tradesman.

The mother is as bad as she can well be. The elder children are being trained up to go to the public house from morning until night to fetch drink for the neighbours in the locality of the mothers residence - a very hornet's nest.

Lady Young has been kind to the mother giving bread and paying rent through J.H. Smales. He has now 10 shillings to pay a portion of 10 weeks rent overdue. To keep the pour children and herself from being turned onto the street, the mother is now in the receipt of the Benevolent aid - 3 lbs of meat, 3 lbs & 1/2 of bread, tea, sugar, & oatmeal or rice once a week and also goes about begging to all the clergyman in Hobart town. But for the sake of the poor children until something can be done with the father for the desertion of his wife and children, he hopes he may be allowed to plead for the admission of the 2 children to the Queen's Orphan School.

Signed J.H. Smales.

"The Governor approves of the Child named in the Margin (Sarah and Ellen) being admitted into the Queen's Orphan Schools, at the expense of the Imperial Government. Signed by Comptroller-General 23 Feb 1861". [8] [9]


On the 17 July 1863, a second application was submitted for Sarah Hull, now aged 8 years 6 months and 12 days Catholic, for admission into the Queen's Orphan School. Her father is named as Edward Hull who has "Left the Colony". Other details given about Edward are consistent with previously given details that he was Protestant, arrived to the Colony by the ship Rodney as Bond [convict] whose wife's maiden name is Ellen Allen who arrived on the ship Midlothian as Bond and is now employed as a servant. It describes the mother as having "no means but love to support her children. She has one more child with her, Edward Hull, 3 years old." On the 30 Sept 1864, the Comptroller-General Approved a half charge upon the Imperial funds. [10]


Research Notes

Disambiguation:- Another Edward Hull dies but born 1859

  • Note:- Previously this profile has shown the date of death as 1915 in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia however this is incorrect because these death and admission records go to showing a different year of birth and that in fact the sister described is Mrs Corbett who is the daughter of this Edward Hull and this death is of his son, Edward.

There is a burial record indicates that an Edward Hull, a 56 year old Roman Catholic farmer of New Town, was burial by Father Monaghan on the 18Mar1815 in a public grave identified as grave 114 compartment DD, .[11]

The age at burial gives an estimated birth year of 1859 which is not the birth year of this profile. Another burial record, of Hobart Public Cemetery, discloses that Edward Hull was born in Hobart, and that his late residence was a Charitable institution.[12]

The New Town Charitable Institute on his admission record indicates that Edward Hull, aged 55, was admitted from the General Hospital on 1Mar1915, that he can not read, he had Cancer, he was native born to Hobart, his trade was a Labourer; His relatives were listed as daughter, Mrs Nicholls, of S.Bay, and his sister, Mrs Corbett, 28 Park St., and that he died on the 16 Mar 1915.[13]


Disambiguation:- Another convict named Edward Hull

An Edward Hull was convicted at the Lancaster, Salford General Sessions and sentenced to seven years. He was transported on the Lady Kennaway, leaving London 30th January, 1851 and arriving in Van Diemen's Land 28th May, 1851[14]

That Edward Hull, of the Lady Kennaway 2, received a conditional pardon 14th June 1853[15]

That Edward Hull, of the Lady Kennaway 2, died in Hobart General Hospital on the 26 Jun 1871 described as being aged 36 born Lancashire, occupation Joiner.[16]

  • Note:- The age at death gives an estimated birth year of 1835 - so not the Edward Hull of the Rodney who was born c.1826.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; Online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-99$init=CON33-1-99p133 accessed 22May2021; convict conduct record for Edward Hull.
  2. "England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ2H-3GK : 13 December 2017), Edward Hull in household of Jeremiah Davis, South Weald, Essex, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
  3. Convict Records for Edward Hull; Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 92, Class and Piece Number HO11/16, Page Number 341 (172); Source description: This record is one of the entries in the British convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database compiled by State Library of Queensland from British Home Office (HO) records which are available on microfilm as part of the Australian Joint Copying Project.; online repository https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/hull/edward/39513 accessed 22May2021
  4. Archives of Tasmania;, PDF original marriage permission record for Ellen Allen and Edward Hull, online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-13$init=RGD37-1-13P288 accessed 22May2021
  5. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-7$init=CON52-1-7P048 accessed 22May2021
  6. "Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-3RHK : 16 March 2018), Edward Hull and Ellen Allen, 14 Aug 1854; citing Marriage 14 Aug 1854, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, line #34193, Archives Office of Tasmania, Hobart; FHL microfilm 7,368,158.
  7. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-13$init=RGD37-1-13P288 accessed 22May2021
  8. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/SWD26-1-4$init=SWD26-1-4P075 accessed 22May2021
  9. Application for admission 18 February 1861, July 1863; father Edward Hull, mother Ellen Allen [1]
  10. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/SWD26-1-4$init=SWD26-1-4P075 accessed 22May2021; this record has more details but it is difficult to read and transcribe. There may be errors in this transcription.
  11. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1552703 Image permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/AF35-1-2$init=AF35-1-2p269 accessed 22May2021
  12. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/AF70-1-37$init=AF70-1-37P116JPG accessed 22May2021
  13. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1580469 accessed 22May2021
  14. Convict Records: Edward Hull
  15. Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899) Tue 21 Jun 1853 Page 8 Advertising [2]
  16. Tasmanian archives search portal https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search accessed 22May2021; online repository permalink https://stors.tas.gov.au/HSD145-1-1$init=HSD145-1-1_0089 accessed 22May2021

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 Name: Edward Hull Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Date of Trial: 6 Mar 1848 Trial Year: 1848 Location of Trial: Essex, England Sentence: Transportation





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