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Elizabeth (Hicks) Starr (1656 - 1691)

Elizabeth Starr formerly Hicks
Born in Hempstead, Nassau, New Yorkmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died at about age 35 in Hempstead, Queens, New Yorkmap
Profile last modified | Created 13 Sep 2010
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.
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Disputed Origins

She has been associated as daughter of Herodias Long,[1] but this is problematic. The same source claims that both she and her step-brother husband were both "very young" when they married in 1672. We know her husband was 15 when he married. For Elizabeth to have been daughter of her father's first wife, Herodias Long, she would have had to have been born before they separated, which was at least by 1644 and possibly as early as 1642. This would make her 13-15 years older than her 15-year-old husband, and would hardly make her "very young" at the time of her marriage.

Adam and Anne Mott, by Thomas Cornell, has Elizabeth born in Weymouth or Newport, well before 1656 and John's move to Long Island. It is thought John and Herod (aka Herodias) Long separated well before 1656.[2]

If she was indeed Josiah step-sister and daughter of John Hicks, she was more likely daughter of John's second wife.

Biography

The exact birth date and location of Elizabeth Hicks is not known. She was likely born in Hempstead, Long Island in the mid 1650s, probably by her father's second wife.

Elizabeth Hicks reportedly married her step brother Josiah Starr in April 1672, when Josiah was living in Hempstead, Long Island. Elizabeth died in 1691. She was the mother of Josiah Starr's first eight children.[3]

Note: Coddington disputes Ballou, proper sourcing/analysis needed to demonstrate marriage.

Research Notes

Coddington states that Ballou makes a mess of the Starr family. No sources have been provided to demonstrate a marriage to Josiah Starr or her parents being John Hicks and Herodias Long. Lots more work needed here.

Sources

  1. Hosea Starr Ballou, "Dr. Thomas Starr, Surgeon in the Pequot War, and his Family Connections," in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) NEHGR 90 (Apr 1936):Page 152-153 $$ ix Josiah on page 153
  2. Cornell, Thomas Clapp. Adam and Anne Mott, Their Ancestors and Their Descendants (A.V. Haight, Poughkeepsie, N.Y., 1890) Page 371
  3. Ballou, op cit.




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posted by S (Hill) Willson
Please review Josiah Starr's G2G discussion for further information. https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/209706/did-josiah-starr-have-a-wife-elizabeth-hicks
posted by Michael Stills
I have removed Josiah as husband of Elizabeth as noted below.
posted by Michael Stills
Torrey, New England Marriages to 1700, seems to be the source for his marriage to Elizabeth Hicks. However, Coddington as noted below desputes this. Thus we have no source for his marriage to Elizabeth.

https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-marriages-to-1700/image?volumeId=21175&pageName=1437&rId=426905198

posted by Michael Stills
Removing Elizabeth's parents as there appears to be no source for this relationship.
posted by Michael Stills
Coddington, TAG 28:15 (1952) says Ballou makes "...an unholy mess..." .."of this branch of the Starr family." The evidence then is suggesting that Elizabeth Hicks did not married Josiah Starr and is not the daughter of Herodias. https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image?pageName=15&volumeId=11864
posted by Michael Stills
Herodias has a good Wikipedia profile. It names two children, not three, not listing Elizabeth.
posted by Jillaine Smith
If she was daughter of Herodias, she must have been born at least 10-15 years earlier as Herodias and John Hicks separated by 1642.

The 1890 genealogy has several errors so we should find an independent source for Elizabeth’s parentage.

posted by Jillaine Smith
It appears that Josiah Whitney is Josiah Starr if you read his bio.
posted by Michael Stills
The source for Thomas's marriage to Elizabeth is Hosea Balloo's article in the NEHGR: "Dr. Thomas Starr, Surgeon in the Pequot War, and his Family Connections." Ballou's essays were mentioned in Anderson's Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume VI, R-S; page 494.
posted by Vic Watt
Do we have a source for the marriage to Josiah Starr? I believe this is incorrect.
posted by Michael Stills

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