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Tryntie Herckson (1582 - 1652)

Tryntie "Catherine" Herckson aka Hercks, Hercx, Herxker
Born in Netherlandsmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 1615 in Netherlandsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 70 in New Amsterdam, New Netherlandmap
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Biography

Name

Name: Catherine Tryntie /Herckson/ or Herxker/Herxer [1][2]

Birth

1582 Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands.
1582 in Newton, Westchester, New York, United States

Marriages

  1. Wife of Hendrick Harmensen — married 1615 in New Amsterdam, New York, United States or married in 1635 in Netherlands or married February 12, 1639 in New Amsterdam
  2. 1645 2-6 Feb; Jeuriaen Fradell, jm Uyt Moravien; Tryn Herxker, wid Hendrick Harmens[3]

Event

Arrival Date: 1645 Place: America [2]

Death

1652 in New Amsterdam

Sources

  1. Source: S101 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: Ancestry (facts)
  2. 2.0 2.1 Source: S1743240850: Repository: R-269701050: Title: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s: Author: Gale Research: Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2009.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2009.Original data: Filby, P. William, ed.. Passeng: APID: 7486::0 Page: Place: America; Year: 1645; Page Number: 47. Note: Ancestry Text: Arrival date: 1645Arrival place: America APID: 7486::329895
  3. Source: "Dutch Reformed Marriage Records of New Amsterdam & New York City" Second marriage 1645, 2-6 february
  • Source: S-269701049 Title: Ancestry Family Trees:Repository R-269701050 Text: Ancestry (facts)




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The last name Herxker in her 1645 marriage sets her apart from the reset of her family, here at least her father is Sijbert so we'd expect a patronym of Sijbets.

It is possible that Herxker is derived from her first husband's name but two things suggest otherwise. First this is decades before the English so her name should be entirely her own and nothing to do with her husband. Second her previous husband's name is recorded as Hendrick in the same document (i am assuming at this point that Herxker is some form of Hendrik). Third if she was born 1582 the second marriage in 1645 would be age 63, why would a Jongeman marry a 63 year old woman? Why would any man go to the effort to formally marry a widow aged 63?

posted by Alex Moes
Herxer-1 and Herxker-1 appear to represent the same person because: they were reviewed and approved to be merged (under the New Netherland Settlers Approval System (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:New_Netherland_Settlers_-_Approval_System). Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Herxker-2 and Herxker-1 appear to represent the same person because: they were in an unmerged match & the New Netherland Settlers Approval System (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:New_Netherland_Settlers_-_Approval_System) now has them marked "Green" (NNS Category) and "Orange" (Merge Pending), indicating that the two are ready to be merged. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
The name of this woman as Catherine Tryntie Herckson born 1582 may have been created in confusion with Tryntie Catrina Syboutsen born 1650, on the related family line.

But she appears to be okay as mother of all of her children. However, I think she is attached to the wrong husband, for a 1615 marriage, and her correct husband should be Hendrick's father Hendrik Harman.

This appears to be a generational error in the source, as it appears in all of the matches for the children. So I will plan to move all of the older children to that older generation Hendrik, born 1590, since none of those children make sense as son of Hendrick born 1610, who married in 1639.

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As I look at this tree some more, I think that she was a first wife of Hendrick Harmensen born 1590, and she died before Hendrick's second marriage to a different woman in 1639. I think the two Hendrick's as father and son, 1590 aand 1610, is bogus, and that they should simply be disconnected and then merged into the same man, born 1590. That will be the easiest way to resolve the children's matches in the tree, so I am going to proceed.

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On second thought again, a merge of the two Hendricks looks to be problematic, because the younger one born 1610 was killed by Indians in 1643, at age 33. He cannot be the father of the older children who were born in the same decade as he was. But the tree is too confused to be able to properly assign the correct relationships. So I think for now this woman and the children need to stay where they are. But the children duplicates can be merged, where the parents do not conflict. Then it will have be sorted out by generation at a later time, if we get better information.

posted by Steven Mix

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