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Matthew Grinnell (abt. 1590 - 1643)

Matthew Grinnell aka Greenell
Born about in Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 27 Aug 1615 in Lexden St Leonard, Essex, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 53 in Newport, Rhode Islandmap
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Matthew Grinnell migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 141)
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Biography

The connection to France and Jean Grenelle has been removed. For years, descendants of Matthew Grinnell have accepted a French origin. However, Jean Rumsey, F.A.S.G., in an article, “Descendants of Daniel Grinnell for Three Generations’ in The Genealogist 7-8 [1986-87:144-277] at p. 146, pointed out that at least one major authority on the families of the region in France from which Matthew is said to have come does not acknowledge the existence of a Matthew or Mathieu anywhere in the Grenelle pedigree. A chance encounter in Boyd’s Marriage Index for Essex, while she was seeking something else, revealed the marriage record of Matthew Grinnell and his wife Rose, and proved that although he did indeed have a French connection, it appears to have been in the surname of his wife rather than his origin.[1]

"We know the names of his three sons only because, after his death, his widow Rose made a prenuptial agreement on 10 November 1643 with Anthony Paine in which she names her sons Matthew, Thomas, and Daniel (and a fourth child, not named, who may have been a daughter). On 29 October 1649, a widow again, she and her son Matthew surrendered eight acres in Portsmouth to Lot Strange. By 18 March 1650/1 she had married, as her third husband, James Weeden of Portsmouth. She was still alive 17 December 1673 when, as Rose Weeden, she sold her property in Portsmouth to her son Matthew Grennell for 30 pounds and a promise of maintenance for life. We do not know when she died." "His [Matthew Grinnells] wife, named Rose, survived him, being in 1643 the wife of Anthony Paine and later marrying James Weeden. There were three sons and a daughter." [2]

He and Rose came to the colonies after 1638 per the listing of inhabitants of Newport.[2]

Marriage: image of the entry is available - The digital images of the Lexden Parish Register D/P 273/1/1 maybe viewed by subscription at: https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/

Research Notes

Disputed Parents:

  1. Thomas Grenel & Joane Gee no supporting evidence
  2. Jean Grenelle de Pymont http://ellis-pagoria.com/getperson.php?personID=I19992&tree=ellis

Sources

  1. The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018.)
  2. 2.0 2.1 The Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island: Comprising Three Generations of ...By John Osborne. page 308

Acknowledgments

  • WikiTree profile Grinnell-112 created through the import of Towne-Weeden.ged on May 29, 2011 by J X. .
  • This person was created through the import of Watkins.ged on 04 April 2011
  • Thank you to Linda Carr for creating WikiTree profile Grinnell-194 through the import of 81f525_538965h29s15w3g532hf36.ged on Jul 28, 2013.




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Can you please provide your source for the birth year of 1602? With a marriage in 1615, it would make him only 13 years old. Would love to see what you have for a source......
posted on Grinnell-603 (merged) by Robin Lee
Grinnell-603 and Grinnell-194 do not represent the same person because: Birth years are wrong
posted by Donald Campbell
Grinnell-603 and Grinnell-194 appear to represent the same person because: based on death date and name of wife, these are intended to be the same person.
posted by Robin Lee
I agree that the parentage of Matthew is probably not through Jean Grenelle. I am removing this relationship.
posted by Robin Lee
The article, Fiske, Jane Fletcher. Matthew Grinnell's French Connection. New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (1993), 147:71, which I do not have access to, has been used to seemingly support the connection to Lord Jean. But the two online trees which cite this article and give Matthew's birthplace as Lexden, Essex, England.

Of course, you are the profile manager so may do as you think best, And cutting the link between Matthew and Lord Jean will severe my link to this nobility. But I am not confident of this connection.

posted by [Living Bartelt]
The article clearly states that Matthew is NOT from France, that the confusion is because his wife's maiden name was "French".
posted by Robin Lee
According to your citation, in the 1930's William Emery used "evidence" found by a French genealogist working for a U.S. Consular official in France, William Morton Grinnell, to show Matthew Grenelle to be the son of Lord Jean Grenelle of Macon.

But maybe this is not true.

There is no mention of "Matthew" in a section on Lord Jean Grenelle of Macon within "Notice Historique Et Genalogique sur ;a Famille Quarre Dr Bourgogne Et ses Diverses Brances, Lyon, Impimerie X Jevain, 1895." But birth of Jean's son Jacques Grenelle is mentioned.

The Grinnell Family website (cited), stated that exhaustive current genealogical research (1990's) could not support for Matthew's connection to Jean. Moreover, the Grinnell Family genealogists think Matthew to be of British descent.

posted by [Living Bartelt]
Grenelle-1 and Grinnell-194 appear to represent the same person because: The names and wife are similar or the same, this merge got lost because Grinnell-41 was supposed to be the LNAB. However, in the last merge a new spelling of LNAB was added, I have marked the profile as unsourced, as I can find nothing on a family by the name of Grenelle to validate the information that is in the profile. Please be careful and merge into the correct last name.
posted by Robin Lee
Grinnell-41 and Grenelle-1 appear to represent the same person because: part of several merges to get this Grinell family merge, this is the father of Daniel, and the Grenelle spelling is the more traditional spelling of the name in Europe
posted by Robin Lee
Good morning! This profile has been identified by an Arborist as a possible duplicate with Grinnell-41. Please review the merge option on the bottom left hand corner of the profile and merge if they represent the same person. Thank you! Have a great day!
posted by Betty Tindle

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