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William Gerrish (abt. 1621 - 1687)

Captain William Gerrish
Born about in Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married 17 Apr 1645 in Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Husband of — married 1676 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 66 in Salem, Essex, Massachusettsmap
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Biography

Captain William Gerrish (c 1621–1687) of Newbury was an early settler of Massachusetts who served in the Frontier wars.

William may have been baptised on 24 February 1622/3 in Rowde, Wiltshire to John Gerish, clothier, and his wife, Abigail Gerish née Wilkins,[1] widow of Edward Baynton, gent, of Durlett Farm,[2][3] a distant relative of Sir Edward Baynton MP via his grandfather, Robert Baynton, gent, of Durlett.[4][5] It has also been asserted that William was born on 20 August 1617 (or 17 August 1620) in Bristol,[6] although that is called into question by the fact that William reported himself to be 64 years old when he was deposed in Essex in 1685, yielding an estimated birth year of 1621,[7][8] one year off from his potential baptism at Rowde.[1]

Willam married Joanna, widow of John Oliver, on 17 April 1645.[9] Together they had:

Joanna passed away on 14 June 1677 in Newbury.[17]

According to James Savage, William moved to Boston the next year and married Ann, widow of John Manning, with whom he had Henry Gerrish.[6] Although a primary source cannot be located for their marriage, there is a birth record for a Henry Gerrish son of William and Ann Gerrish born in Boston on 18 August 1676.[18] That would, however, be one year before the passing of Joanna.[17]

William passed away on 9 August 1687 in Salem.[19]

Research Notes

Torrey's New England Marriages: GERRISH, William1 (-1687) & 1/wf Joanna (LOWELL) OLLIVER (-Jun 1677, ae 58 y), w John; 17 Apr 1645; Newbury/Boston/Salem (Lowell according to Mrs. Bartlett); {Reg. 7:36, 59, 67:105; NYGBR 43:300; EIHC 1:213, 5:27, 27:29, 40:216, 51:76; Davis: Anc. of Phoe

GERRISH, William1 (-1687) & 2/wf Ann (PARKER) [MANNING], w John; aft Jun 1677; Boston {Evans (1940) 76; Reg. 50:221, 106:23; Suffolk Co. Prob. ,1628; EIHC 5:27; Cushing (ms) 189; Manning 981; Lowell 9; Greenleaf Anc. 79; Gen. Bulletin 1, Supp.; Kittery 44

Possible Origins:

  • It is possible that William is the same William Gerish who was baptised on 24 Feburary 1622/3 in Rowde to John and Abigail Gerish[1] for the following reasons:
    • William named his first son John,[10] which was John's name and the name of one of his sons;[20]
    • William is said by Savage to have named one of his daughters Abigail,[6] which was Abigail's name and the name of one of John and Abigail's daughters;[21]
    • William named one of his sons Benjamin,[14] the same name John and Abigail gave one of their sons;[22]
    • William named one of his daughters Mary,[16] the same name John and Abigail gave one of their daughters;[23]
    • William named one of his daughters Elizabeth,[13] the same name John gave one of his daughters;[24]
    • William is said by Savage to have named one of his daughters Ann,[6] the same name John gave one of his daughters;[25]
    • John passed away in 1638,[26] which corresponds well with William's decision to leave to Massachusetts (reportedly) around 1640;[6]
    • Neither a burial record nor a marriage record can be found in Rowde or Bromham (where John later moved) for a William Gerish born 1622/3; and
    • Although it is typically asserted that William was born in 1617 in Bristol,[6] there are no known primary or otherwise contemporary sources that yield that birth year or birth place, whereas, when deposed in Essex in 1685, William reported his age as 64, yielding a birth year of 1621.[7][8]
  • If it is the case that William was baptised on 24 Feburary 1622/3 to John and Abigail then his profile should be merged with William Gerish, with his last name at birth being Gerish rather than Gerrish as that was the dominant spelling in that parish at that time.
  • Primary sources could not be located for the births of Abigail, Ann and Judith.
  • A primary source could not be located for William's alleged marriage to Ann Manning.
  • It has been asserted that William married Ann Manning a year after the passing of his spouse in 1677[6] and yet he is also said to have had a son named Henry with Ann in 1676.[18] One of those claims may be incorrect or it may be that Henry's date of birth was mistranscribed by a clerk.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Wm; Last name: Girish; Baptism year: 1622; Baptism date: 24 Feb 1622; Father's first name(s): John; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Rowde; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAP%2F15381866%2F0022701.
  2. "Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812", database, Ancestry (Ancestry Record 61187 #1717350 : accessed 18 December 2023) [requires subscription], Edward Baynton married Abigaila Wilkins on 21 February 1612 in Seend, Wiltshire, England.
  3. Wiltshire, England, Wills and Probate, 1530-1858", database with images, Ancestry (Ancestry Record 61333 #113406 : accessed 18 December 2023) [requires subscription], will of Edward Baynton of Durlett Farm Rowde Wiltshire, England, probated in 1616; citing Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Wiltshire Wills and Probates; Reference Number: P3/B/132.
  4. WG Davis, The Ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts, The Anthoensen Press, Portland, 1963, p 233.
  5. "England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858", database with images, Ancestry (Ancestry Record 5111 #892103 : accessed 22 December 2023) [requires subscription], will of Edwardi Bayntun of Bromhm, Wiltshire, England, probated on 21 May 1545; citing TNA Prob. 11 Piece 30.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 6.8 6.9 J Savage, A genealogical dictionary of the first settlers of New England, Little, Brown and Company, Boston, 1861, 2:244, accessed 13 January 2024.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Massachusetts Archives; Columbia Point, MA, USA; Index to the Deponent Records of the County of Essex, Massachusetts; Volume: 9; Page: 475. Name: William Gerrish; Age: 64; Birth Year: abt 1621; Deposition Year: 1685; Deposition Place: Essex, Massachusetts, USA. Ancestry Record 5342 #1920.
  8. 8.0 8.1 ML Sanborn, Ages from court records, 1636-1700 Essex, Middlesex, and Suffolk counties, Massachusetts, Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, 2003, 1:85, citing court record in EQC 9:475 that gives William Gerrish's age as 64 in 1685.
  9. "Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988", database, Ancestry (Ancestry Record 2495 #7519437 : accessed 13 January 2024) [requires subscription], William Gerrish married Joanna on 17 April 1645 in Newbury, Massachusetts, USA.
  10. 10.0 10.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: John Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 15 May 1645; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #7530232.
  11. Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: William Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 6 Jun 1648; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #7443189.
  12. Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Joseph Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 23 Mar 1649; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #7506947.
  13. 13.0 13.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Elizabeth Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 20 Sep 1654; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish; Mother: S Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #80474142.
  14. 14.0 14.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Benjamin Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 13 Jan 1651; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #5385180.
  15. Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Moses Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 9 May 1656; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #7443765.
  16. 16.0 16.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Mary Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 1 Apr 1658; Birth Place: Newbury, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #7443919.
  17. 17.0 17.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Mrs Joanna Gerrish; Record Type: Death; Death Date: 14 Jun. 1677; Death Place: Newburyport, Massachusetts, USA; Spouse: William Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #4953741.
  18. 18.0 18.1 Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: Henry Gerrish; Record Type: Birth; Birth Date: 18 Aug 1676; Birth Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA; Father: William Gerrish; Mother: Ann Gerrish. Ancestry Record 2495 #44570917.
  19. Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Name: William Gerrish; Record Type: Death; Death Date: 9 Aug. 1687; Death Place: Salem, Massachusetts, USA. Ancestry Record 2495 #80710884.
  20. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): John; Last name: Girish; Baptism year: 1620; Baptism date: 25 Oct 1620; Father's first name(s): John; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Rowde; County: Wiltshire; Country: England; Notes: GYRRISH in Reg : GIRISH in BT. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAP%2F15381866%2F0022687.
  21. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Abigail; Last name: Girrish; Baptism year: 1624; Baptism date: 03 Apr 1624; Father's first name(s): John; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Rowde; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAP%2F15381866%2F0022731.
  22. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Beniamin; Last name: Gerish; Baptism year: 1631; Baptism date: 02 Nov 1631; Father's first name(s): John; Father's last name: Gerish; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Bromham; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAPS%2FBH%2F2044130.
  23. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Mary; Last name: Gyrish; Baptism year: 1627; Baptism date: 20 Jun 1627; Father's first name(s): John; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Rowde; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAP%2F15381866%2F0022772.
  24. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Elizabeth; Last name: Gerish; Baptism year: 1613; Baptism date: 09 May 1613; Father's first name(s): John; Father's last name: Gerish; Residence: Stafferton; Place: Trowbridge, St James; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAPS%2FBH%2F0835992.
  25. "Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917", FindMyPast. First name(s): Anne; Last name: Gerish; Baptism year: 1635; Baptism date: 03 Oct 1635; Father's first name(s): John; Mother's first name(s): Abigail; Place: Bromham; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBAP%2F15381866%2F0009400.
  26. "Wiltshire Burials Index 1538-1990", FindMyPast. First name(s): John; Last name: Gerish; Burial year: 1638; Burial date: 02 Sep 1638; Place: Bromham; County: Wiltshire; Country: England. https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=PRS%2FWILT%2FBURS%2FBH%2F1463270.

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I have improved William's profile, preserving existing secondary sources in the Sources section but replacing in-text references with primary sources wherever possible and noting where primary evidence could not be found to support a particular assertion. I have also enumerated facts in favour of the theory that William was baptised in Rowde on 24 Feburary 1622/3 to John and Abigail Gerish in the Research Notes section.
posted by O Butler
Thank you for your research regarding this profile. Would you please post a question on G2G to elicit others' input on his date of birth and parentage? That way it will get more visibility than just via this profile.

Thank you S

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Good idea! Thank you for fixing my typos :)
posted by O Butler
Its interesting to note that many of the names William assigned his children overlap with the names of the children of John Gerish (c 1584-1638) of Bromham and his wife Abigail Wilkins (1595-1619), including John, Abigail, Benjamin, Elizabeth, Mary and Anna (Ann). John and Abigail also had a son baptised 1623 named William which would work with this William assuming there is no hard evidence for his current birth year of 1617(?)
posted by O Butler
At FamilySearch there are multiple sources that attest to birth and christening in England in 1617, as well as a record of birth and death records from Massachusetts that give a date in 1620. Interesting discrepancy but 1623 would seem to be a new contender. His profile's here: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L4Z8-HY8
posted by M. Hebert
Are there any primary sources that are confirmed to be linked to Capitan William Gerrish that yield a birth date of 1617? From what I have seen, there are many secondary sources that reproduce that claim and then there are also baptisms with that date but I haven't been able to find a primary source that links this specific William Gerrish (as in, the William Gerrish who was a Capitan and lived in Massachusetts) with that birth date.

It'd be nice to test this theory with Y-DNA since I know there are still Gerrishes in Wiltshire today but that might be difficult.

I think the overlap in forenames is quite interesting, I actually only found William's profile while researching my the Gerish family of Wiltshire (which I am a descendant of) and noticed how similar the names of his children were to the family of one of my Gerish ancestors.

posted by O Butler
Are you looking for a primary source birth record that identifies him as Capt. William Gerrish? Haha, just kidding...

This will take some more investigation and could be aided by someone with a Findmypast account. It's interesting to me but not so much that I will probably pursue it anytime soon, sorry.

posted by M. Hebert
I created Gerrish Family Mysteries and added a question about William there. Also, it wouldn't hurt to post in the G2G forum if nobody responds here within the next week or so.
posted by M. Hebert
I was able to find a legal deposition record that yields an estimated birth year of 1621 which further supports this theory: Sanborn, Melinda Lutz Sanborn, "Ages from Court Records 1636-1700" Volume 1: Essex, Middlesex and Suffolk Counties, Massachusetts (Baltimore : Genealogical Publishing, 2003), p. 85. Cites record found in EQC 9:475 and gives his age as 64 in 1685. (credit to Bobbie Hall for finding the citation).

This is good supporting evidence but I may need something stronger to be truly convincing.

posted by O Butler
I have updated William's profile with the new information.
posted by O Butler
14 weeks, not 6. Sorry for the error. Bath is very near the vicinity of the Somerset Lowle's, perhaps helping to explain his early acquaintance with them prior to their immigration.
posted by R Acheson
The mention of the potential baptism of William Gerrish to a John and Anne Gerish at Bath Abbey, Bath, Somerset in the notes above contains an error.

www.freereg.org has it as 9 Dec 1617, not in 1619, if their transcription is accurate.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58185c72e93790eca3f4548f/william-gerish-baptism-somerset-bath-1617-12-09?locale=en

This 1617 date aligns well with the above state birth date for William as August 20, 1617 at Bristol, whatever that date's original source may be. He'd have been 6 weeks old. Given that William's first born son was also named John, and he likewise has a daughter named Ann, it would seem that this couple is worthy of further scrutiny.

posted by R Acheson
I located an interesting secondary source that also lists the birthdate in 1617. It is a descendancy list from "Lineages of Members of the National Society of Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims, Vol. I [database on-line]. The section is Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims." I located it on Ancestry as a hint associated with William Gerrish, as he is my 8th great-grandfather. Should this source be added to his profile here?
posted by Jennifer Allen
No, thanks, Jennifer. I took a look at that Society's website, and it shows a date of birth of Aug 20, 1617/20 in Bristol. So even the Society isn't sure of his birth information (there are no primary sources shown on the website). The August 20, 1617 date likely originated in A genealogical register of the first settlers of New England... by John Farmer. Farmer shows no sources for William's birth information.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
The following was sent in a private message, but really belongs here, so it can be seen and answered by other members of the PGM project.

"I notice that you have a specific date for the birth of Captain William Gerrish as Aug 20, 1617. What is the source for this date of birth? My research seems to indicate that Captain Gerrish was born in the early 1620's in or near the parish of Melksham in Wiltshire. Thank you from Canada . Regards, Susan Garrish"

Replied: The date is on the source given from 1829 and is repeated in dozens of other secondary sources, including the most recent treatment of the family from 2008. Of course, this doesn't make it true as none of the sources give an underlying primary source.

What is your source for saying he was born in the early 1620's near the parish of Melksham?

posted by Joe Cochoit
Gerrish-66 and Gerrish-40 appear to represent the same person because: ready to be merged

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