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William (Gascoigne) de Gascoigne (abt. 1300 - abt. 1383)

Sir William (William VII) de Gascoigne formerly Gascoigne
Born about in Kirkby Warfe, Yorkshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 1350 [location unknown]
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Died about at about age 83 in Harewood, Yorkshire, Englandmap
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The seventh William Gascoigne in Thoresby's pedigree: 'William Gasocigne of Gawthorp marr Agnes dau & heiress of Nicholas Frank'. Flowers gives her name as 'Margaret dau & heir of Nycholas Franke of Alwodley'.

Children (per Thoresby):

1. Sir William Gascoigne chief justice d 17/12/1412 married (1) Elisabeth dau of Alexander Mowbray (2) Joan dau of Sir William Pickering 2 Nicholas 2nd son, of Lasingcroft marMAry dau of Sir Hugh Cliderhow 3 Richard 3rd son obit 1422 of Hunslet ,arr Anne dau of Hew Ellis 4 Thomas 4th s 5 John 5th s a clerk 6 Anne marr Sir Rob Constable 7 Elisabeth marr John Ashe

"He was known as William Gascoigne of Harewood, Senior. In addition to the Gawthorpe estate (which he most likely inherited), he purchased the lands in Harewood from Robert de Insula de Rugemont in 1363. He also obtained settlement of lands at Harewood, Werrdeley (Weardley) and Weton (Weeton) to his son William in 1373.

"On his death in 1383 at Gawthorpe the family divided into two branches, the senior branch descending through his son William at Gawthorpe and the junior branch through his second son Nicholas who acquired the estate of Lasingcroft in 1392."[1]

Sources

  1. Gascoyne Family Tree website

http://www.thepeerage.com/p15819.htm#i158181

  • Gascoigne pedigree in Ralph Thoresby “Ducatus Leodiensis; or the Topography of the antient and populous Town and Parish of Leedes and parts adjacent in the West Riding of the County of York, 1715. P. 176-178 on Google Books
  • Flowers Visitation Gaskon Pedigree in “The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564, Made by William Flower, Esquire, Norroy King of Arms” Harleian Society (1881) vol 16, p. 133-5
  • Flowers Visitation Gaskon Pedigree in “The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564, Made by William Flower, Esquire, Norroy King of Arms” Harleian Society (1881) vol 16, p. 133-5




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According to The Visitation of Yorkshire in 1584/5 made by Robert Glover (pg. 384), and The visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563 and 1564 made by William Flowers (pp. 133-134), William Gascoigne, the grandson of William and Elizabeth (Bolton) Gascoigne, married twice: (1) Elizabeth, dau. and heir to Roger [or Alexander] Mowbray, lord chief justice, and (2) Jane, dau. to ... Lisle [William Lysley]. There is absolutely no mention of an "Agnes Franke", though this William's mother is shown as being Margaret Franke (which is also incorrect in this WikiTree).

https://archive.org/details/McGillLibrary-hssl_visitation-yorkshire_CS437Y4A2-19990/page/n407/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/visitationofyork00flow/page/132/mode/2up

The Visitations were a form of official census. One would think that they would take precedence over modern-day published website pages, but it appears that this families entries follow more closely to what has been published on web pages than what exists in historic records. As a matter of fact, most of what is shown in this WikiTree for the close ancestors and descendants of William and Elizabeth (Bolton) Gascoigne do not agree with the historic record published in The Visitations.

posted by Roy Pope Jr.
Hi Kathy and Derek, the England Project would like to take on management of this profile as it is project protected. See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Project_Protecting_and_Merging for more information. I am adding the England project box today and will send you a trusted list request to add me to the trusted list for the profile. Please contact me if you would like to discuss. Regards, Gillian, Leader, England Project.
posted by Gillian Thomas
John cannot have been born about 1343, because William VIII (senior branch) and Nicholas (junior branch) were older than him.

I have therefore adjusted the approximate birth years for John and Nicholas to reflect their birth order.

posted by Kenneth Kinman
I agree with Katherine about 3 and 63
posted by David Mark Cordell
Gascoigne-63 and Gascoigne-3 do not represent the same person because: Different generations
Gascoigne-21 and Gascoigne-3 appear to represent the same person because: The published pedigrees agree that William the son of William G & Matulda Gawthorpe married a daughter of Nicholas Franke (although one calls her Agnes and the other Margaret) and was the father of William who married Elisabeth Mowbray. While the generations are long and another generation may seem logical, the soruces so not support it. So, I have combined the two.
posted by John Cherry
I have removed Gascoigne-21 as a son of Gascoigne-3 as they were of the same generation. The confusion appears to come from one pedigree naming his wife as Agnes Franke and another as Margaret, but both with the same father (Nicholas Franke) and same children. I have proposed a merger of the two profiles, and placed GAscoigne-21 as a son of Gascoigne-442.

This does seem a long generation, and there is a case that there may be an extra generation, but the published genealogies do not support this, and we should follow the sources.

posted by John Cherry
Gascoinge-9 and Gascoigne-3 do not represent the same person because: Different generations
Agreed. Lot of conflicting info and conflicting sources. Note the 'Project Protected' status. Working on.
posted by Brent Bowen
DOB of father of this individual cannot be the same. Lineage needs to be checked for correct dates and relationships.
posted by Bob Keniston Jr.

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