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Adalolf (Flandre) de Boulogne (abt. 890 - 933)

Adalolf "Comte de Boulogne" de Boulogne formerly Flandre
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Died at about age 43 [location unknown]
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European Aristocracy
Adalolf Flandre was a member of the aristocracy in Europe.

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Research Notes

Wives and Children currently linked on Wikitree need to be researched. Some should be delinked following research.Day-1904 05:33, 2 October 2017 (EDT)

Biography

890 Name, Birth, Parentage

Adalolf, also called Adalulf, and a range of other variations, was most likely the second son, of Baldwin II, Count of Flanders, and his wife, AElfthryth of Wessex, the third daughter of Alfred 'the Great', King of Wessex.

Richardson reports that Adalolf (or Adolf) was one of two sons of Baudouin II, the Bald, Count/Marquis of Flanders 879-918, Count of Artois and Lay-abbot of Saint-Vaast, 892-899, Lay-abbot of Saint-Bertin, 900, Count of Boulogne, 898?-918, Count of Ternois, about 892-918, born about 863-895. [1]

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Arnulfum, fratrem eius Adelulfum" as the two sons of "Balduinus"[79]. [2]

Stewart Baldwin states, however, that "Adalolf is falsely called a uterine brother of Arnulf." [3]

Adalolf (Æthelwulf) was named after his great-grandfather Æthelwulf, king of Wessex. [3]

Adalulf (or Adolphe, Allou, Athelwulf) of Flanders (born ca 890) was count of Boulogne-sur-Mer & Thérouanne (Ternois) in 918, later co-count of Flanders & abbot of Saint-Bertin. [4]

Adalolf [Æthelwulf] de Flandres was born after 893/99. [2]

Marriage

The name of his wife, or whether he had a wife, is not known. [4]

Adaloif de Flandre was previously linked to two profiles of wives, which are most likely duplicates: Mahaut (Crequy) de Boulogne and Mahaut De Crequy, born 875. These profiles have been delinked from Adaloif.

918 Succession of Father

He succeeded his father in 918 as Comte de Boulogne-sur-Mer, de Thérouanne, and lay-Abbot of St Bertin.

He succeeded his father as count of Boulogne and Ternois and lay-abbot of Saint-Bertin in 918. [3]

"Adalolphus" is named son of Count Baudouin II in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, which specifies that he succeeded his father in 918 as Comte de Boulogne-sur-Mer, de Thérouanne, and lay-Abbot of St Bertin[80]. [2]

933 Death

He died 13 November 933. [4]

Dying on 13 November 933, he was buried in the church at Saint-Bertin and was succeeded by his brother Arnulf [3]

He died 13 Nov 933 and was buried Gent St Pieter). [2]

The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 933 of "Adalulfus comes", specifying that he was buried "in monasterio sancti Petri"[82]. [2]

Issue

Per Curt Hofemann, he knows of no sources giving Adaloff a wife or any children. So this is very 'iffy' as to his being the father of Maud de St. Pol.

The fact that Adalolf was succeeded by his brother rather than a son casts doubt on the possibility of children.

Documented Children

  1. Name unknown. His legitimate children were a son (name unknown) who was executed before September 962 (no recorded descendants),
  1. Arnulf de Boulogne. Arnulf I, count of Boulogne-sur-Mer (died after 31 January 972) who _may_ (NB not proven) have been ancestor of the later counts of Boulogne. [4] Arnulf was born 922, Boulogne, Artois, France. Leo van der Pas reported that Adalolf, Comte de Boulogne-sur-Mer et de Therouanne, son of Baudouin II 'the Bald', (Graaf van Vlaanderen 879-918) , b. Abt 863, d. 10 Sep 918 (Age ~ 55 years) and Elftrudis|Alfthryth of Wessex, d. 929, was the father of an unnamed child who died before September 962, and also Arnulf, Comte de Boulogne, who died after 31 Jan 972. [5]
  2. Balduin. This Adalulf of Flanders _may_ also have had an illegitimate son named Balduin (Baldzo, Bauces), who was ruler of Flanders as guardian of Count Arnulf II ca 864, and died in 973. [4]

'Other children previously linked on WikiTree

Parents

Adalolf, Comte de Boulogne, was previously shown as the father of Polsur (Mer De Therouen) De Ponthieu, born 0900 and Maud (De St Pol) St Pol, born 0904, Maer, Norway. Since Adalolf was not likely born earlier than 890, the possibility of him siring a daughter in Norway at the age of 14 is quite improbable. No other documentation has appeared suggesting that he had such a daughter. These are probalby the same person, and cannot have been the daughter of Adalolf. They have been delinked.

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013. Vol 5, page 495
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Charles Cawley. Medieval Lands Database: Flanders Accessed October 2, 2017. jhd
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Stewart Baldwin. 'Baldwin II "the Bald" (Baudouin "le Chauve", Balduinus Calvus)' updated 25 November 2007. In The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England viewed 19 March 2017]. Accessed October 2, 2017. jhd
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Peter Stewart Re Maud de St. Pol 5 Jan 2004. First Response in answer to a question by Don Matson, 5 Jan 2004: "Need birthdate of Maud de St. Pol Sur-Mer de Therouanne, wife of Hugo/Hugh de Cavalcamp b. ca. 890 near Dieppe or Maer, Nord Trondalag, Norway. Was Maud also married 1st to Guillaume I de Ponthieu? Was Maud a dau. of Adolf de Boulgogne Sur-Mer de Therouanne who d. 933 & wife Mahaut Crequy or Ragnvald Olafsson, of Agdar & wife Thora Sigurdsdottir???". Accessed October 1, 2017. jhd
  5. Leo van de Pas and Ian Fettes. Genealogics. Adalolf Comte de Boulogne Based on Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.). Last modified 6 April 1999. Accessed Sept 23, 2018 jhd

See also:

  • Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber, rootsweb.com

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Perhaps "Polsur Mer de Therouen" could be disconnected as well; the profile looks like a clumsy duplicate of De_St_Pol-1, which was previously disconnected (see Jack's comment below).
I have added as much documentation and sourcing as possible. All links to spouses and children appear to be questionable and need to be explored further. I was looking in particular at Maud St. Pol, who probably never existed, and have de-linked her as a daughter.
posted by Jack Day
1st the wives seem to be the same, 2nd what is the documentation for the wife? In things I am looking at she doesn't seem to exist - see http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Adalolfdied933, see also for supposed descendant - http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;i=1181501
Before merge if they are the same need info on where the name van Vlaanderen came from. Information here does not LOOK right.
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