Robert (Ferrers) de Ferrers (1177 - 1225)

Born 1177 in Rutland, England

Ancestors

Husband of Joan (Bocland) de Avranches — married about 1210 in England

Biography

Upon his father in law's death, he paid Five hundred Marks Fine for livery of the lands of Joan's inheritance, lying in the Counties of Bedf. Hertf. Buck. Oxon. and Berks. ^[1]

No issue. ^[2]

Fought in Ireland 1210 and in Poitou 1214. He adhered to King John against the rebel Barons for which he was suitable rewarded.

1223: "Robert de Ferrers, and Joan his wife" ^[3]

Note

Nothing seems to support conflating this Robert de Ferrers with the Robert fitz Walkelin in the following discussion. Daughter, Margery, should likely be made the daughter of this Robert, who is the son of Robert, grandson of Walchelin, husband of Margaret de Grendon, father of Ermentrude Stafford, son-in law of Ermentrude de Grendon, who gifted him lands in Egginton, which Margery inherited.

A discussion in August 2001 on soc.genealogy.medieval indicates the following: ROBERT FITZ WALKELIN. In a plea roll of 22 Edward I (1293/4) he is called Robert fitz Walkeline and his daughter was named Margaret, wife of John de Chandos. Per Paget (OGHBE: 205), (who calls him the son of William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby): He died 1225. Fought in Ireland 1210 and in Poitou 1214. He adhered to King John against the rebel Barons for which he was suitably rewarded. He had no issue by his wife Joan. (DUG, 1: 258 however names two daughters as his coheiresses, both by his wife Joan.) Married- JOAN de BOCLAND. 1. Ermentruda fitz Walkelin. Married- William de Stafford. (Not per DUG- Robert Talbot, of Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.) This would be, according to Staffordshire Record Society, Series 3, vol. 1917, p. 9- Sir William de Stafford, born c1225, died 1258. Ermentrude was his first wife and Auda, eldest sister and coheiress of Warin de Vernon, of Sandon, was his 2nd.

2. Margaret fitz Walkelin.

(Ref: Paget, Gerald. An Official Genealogical and Heraldic Baronage of England. 3 vols. About 1957.

This states that Robert is the son of Walkelin and NOT the son of William as some have shown.

Sources

1. ↑ Fine Roll C 60/15, 5 HENRY III (1220–1221): 148 - 9 May 1221 [1]
2. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 511. [2]
3. ↑ Henry III, vol. 1, p. 390 [3]

• soc.genealogy.medieval discussion of Aug 2001 re: Ferrers-Chaundos
• FMG [4]
• Fine Roll C 60/16, 6 HENRY III (1221–1222): 34 - Nov 1221; 226 - 30 Jun 1222 [5]
• Fine Roll C 60/18, 7 HENRY III (1222–1223): 153 - 19 Apr 1223 [6]
• Fine Roll C 60/21, 8 HENRY III (1223–1224): 419 - 23 Oct 1224 [7]
• Fine Roll C 60/23, 9 HENRY III (1225): 225 - 23 Jun 1225; 288 - 26 Aug 1225 [8]
• Fine Roll C 60/24, 10 HENRY III (1225–1226): 70 - 18 Jan 1225; 156 - May 1225 [9]