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Catharina Elg (1798 - 1875)

Catharina Elg
Born in Gravendal, Säfsnäs, Kopparberg, Sverigemap
Ancestors ancestors
Sister of [half]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at age 76 in Runnberg Nr 321, Ljusnarsberg, Örebro län, Sverigemap
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Biography

1798 jun 23 Catharina born Gravendal, Säfsnäs[1][2][3]. Father Petter Elg(Älg) and mother Stina Berg in Grafvendahl[4][2][5][6]

1815 nov 23 father "Spiksmed" Petter Elg died 62 years 7 months[7]. Death reason "Håll och Styng"

Picture from Arkiv Digital of Säfsnäs (W) AI:8 (1815-1825)[6]
Household records Gravendals Bruk father Petter Elg is mentioned died (Swedish död in the right column) and has last comment 1815 and Catharina has some comments that are difficult to read plus no comments after 1818 ==> she moved out

1819 oct 3 marriage "Masmästaren" Jonas Persson from Ramshyttan and "Mästardottern" Catharina Elg from Gravendahl[8]

Picture from Arkiv Digital of Säfsnäs (W) EI:1 (1748-1838)>
Marriage record "Masmästaren" Jonas Persson from Ramshyttan and "Mästardottern" Catharina Elg

1819 oct 25 moving from Säfsnäs to Ramshyttan and Viken, Rämmen[9]. Living together with Masmästaren Jonas Pehrsson. They are on the same page as Jonas Pehrsson father Pehr Jonsson 1747 21/8 so I guess they live in the same house

1820 sep 21 daughter Stina Lisa born in Rämmen"Masmästaren" Jonas Persson and mother Catharina Elg 22 year[10][11]

1821 nov 13 Petter born in Viken, Rämmen[12]. He is the son of "Masmästaren" Jonas Persson and Catrina Elg 23 years old[13][14][11]

1821 "flickan" Stina Lisa Elg moves in 15 years old[11] looks like a younger sister to Catrina. She moves back to Säfnäs the same year.

1822 jun 8 moves out from Rammen to Grangärde[15]

1823 her husbands father Pehr Jonsson dies[16]

1823 moves from Grangärdet to Säfsnäs[17]

1825 moved from Gravendal, Säfsnäs[17] to Högfors gård, Rundbergs Ljusnarsberg. Her husband is "Masmästare" but that is overstrikken and replaced with "Dagkarl" which is an indication that life is tougher[14]

1826 feb 16 son Johan Eric was born he is the son of Jonas Persson and Catharina Elg 28 years old resident in Högfors[18][14][2]

Picture from Arkiv Digital of of Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:15a (1820-1829)[14]
Household records Högfors gård, Rundbergs, Ljusnarsberg

1828 sep 28 Anna Catarina born in Högfors[19]. She is the daughter of "Upsättare" Jonas Persson and Catrina Elg 30 years old[14][2]

1830 sep 3 Brita Sophia was born. She is the daughter of "Masmästare" Jonas Persson and Catrina Elg 32 years old[20] from Högfors

1832 oct 18 daughter Maja Lotta born in Högfors gård, Högfors, Ljusnarsberg. Father "Dagkarl" Jonas Persson fr. ? and mother Catharina Elg 34 years old[21][2]

1835 jun 2 Engla born in Högfors, Ljusnarsberg, Örebro län, Sweden[22]. She was the daughter of "Dagkarl" Jonas Persson and Catharina Elg 36 years old[2].

Picture from Arkiv Digital of Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848)[22]
Birth record Engla born in Högfors, Ljusnarsberg

1838 feb 7 daughter Carolina born in Högfors Ljusnarsberg. She is the daughter of "Dagkarl" Jonas Persson and his wife Catharina Elg 40 year from Högfors, Ljusnarsberg[23][2]

Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:16a (1830-1841)[2]
Household record Högforsgård, Högfors, Ljusnarsberg, Örebro län
Picture from Arkiv Digital of Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848)[21]
Birth record of daughter Maja Lotta

1844 aug 28 son Carl August born in Rundberg Ljusnarsberg[24]. Father Landbonden or Dagkarl Jonas Persson and mother Catharina Elg 46 years old[25]

1851 resident Rundberg 321 (belongs to Högfors bolag)[26]. Husband Jonas is "Landbonde"

1862 sep 4 her husband Jonas Persson from Runnberg died 72 years old death reason "Kräfta". In the death record[27]. In the death record it looks like they have had 11 children and 2 sons and 6 daughters that survived.

1868 may 15 son Carl August Jonsson emigrates to N(orth) Amerika[28][25].

1875 jan 29 "Inhyse" Cathrina Elg died 76 year 7 month 7 days resident at Runnberg 321[29][30][31]

Picture from Arkiv Digital of Ljusnarsberg (T) F:9 (1863-1877)[29]
Death record Cathrina Elg, Enka fr(ån) Runnberget[31]
född 1798 23/4 i Säfsnäs, 76 (years), 7 (months), 7 (days), enka
Picture from Arkiv Digital of Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:20c (1872-1881)[30]
Household record Cathrina Elg Jonas Perssons enka (eng. widow) inhyse
resident Runnberg 321 today called Rundberget[31] see also map hitta.se


Research Notes

  • Video from Gravendal and how the Blacksmiths worked...

Space:Wetterskog_Dalarna_Sweden_Research_page

Nils Berns föräldrar var:
Jonas Bern, född ca 1790
Kristina Nilsdotter, f ca 1795
De bodde 1833 i Långmossen, Säfsnäs
Anna Catrinas föräldrar var:
Jonas Persson, masmästare 1819 i Ramshyttan, f.d. masmästare 1859 i Rundberget, Ljusnarsberg
gift 1819-10-03 i Säfsnäs med Catharina Elg, f 1798-06-23 i Gravendal.
Nils Bern och Anna Catrina gifte sig 1859-05-16 i Säfsnäs.
Barn: Juliana, f 1872 i Säfsnäs.
Familjen bodde 1890 i Gravendal, där Nils var dagkarl.
  • Family Tree Catharina Pettersdtr Elg. 1798-
    • Sources
    • GID 2159.17.61900, C:2, Födde, 1776-1800, Säfsnäs(W)
      • Check at Ancestry gives no page number we got
LÄN: Kopparberg
FÖRSAMLING: Säfsnäs
LAND: Sweden
TYP AV BOK: Födde
ÅRTALSINTERVALL: 1776 - 1800
GID-NUMMER: 2159.17.61900
VOLYM: C:2
RULLE-/FICHENUMMER: MN-1407
    • GID 520.4.49200 B:2, In-, Utflyttning 1806-44, Rämen (S)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 20 / page 33 (AID: v8136.b20.s33, NAD: SE/VA/13442)[9]
    • GID 2159.16.44100, C:1, Födde 1748-75, Säfsnäs (W)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry gives no page number
COUNTY: Kopparberg
PARISH: Säfsnäs
COUNTRY: Sweden
RECORD TYPE: Födde
YEAR RANGE: 1748 - 1775
GID NUMBER: 2159.16.44100
VOLUME: C:1
ROLL/FICHE NUMBER: MN-1407
    • Säfsnäs F:2 (1776-1827) Bild 145 (AID: v132079.b145, NAD: SE/ULA/11506) - "Spiksmed" Petter Elg died[7]
    • GID 2159.32.9600, AI:3, HF 1785-94, Säfsnäs(W)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry gives page number 54 ==> Säfsnäs (W) AI:5 (1785-1794) Image 62 / page 54 (AID: v132040.b62.s54, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
    • GID 2159.10.46200, AI:1, HF 1748-1763, Säfsnäs(W)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> Säfsnäs (W) AI:1 (1748-1763) Image 175 / page 171 (AID: v132036.b175.s171, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
    • Säfsnäs C:1 (1748-1775) Bild 73 (AID: v132065.b73, NAD: SE/ULA/11506) - mother Stina Berg born
    • GID 2159.33.23900, AI:6, HF 1795-1804, Säfsnäs (W)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> Säfsnäs (W) AI:6 (1795-1804) Image 56 / page 50 (AID: v132041.b56.s50, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)[4]
    • Säfsnäs AI:5 (1785-1794) Bild 61 / sid 53 (AID: v132040.b61.s53, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
    • Säfsnäs F:2 (1776-1827) Bild 148 (AID: v132079.b148, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
    • Säfsnäs AI:4 (1776-1784) Bild 81 / sid 77 (AID: v132039.b81.s77, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
    • Säfsnäs F:2 (1776-1827) Bild 10 (AID: v132079.b10, NAD: SE/ULA/11506) --> Elg-19 mothers mother Andersdotter-4529 died
    • GID 520.4.49500 B:2, In- Utflyttning 1806-44, Rämen (S)
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 23 / page 39 (AID: v8136.b23.s39, NAD: SE/VA/13442)[15]
    • GID 520.5.66800 C:1, 1785-1804, Födde, Död Rämen
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> Rämmen (S) C:1 (1785-1804) Image 18 / page 23 (AID: v8143.b18.s23, NAD: SE/VA/13442) --> Persson-3624|Jonas]] born
    • GID 520.6.79000, Rämen, C:2, FVD, 1805-39, 103/0, B 59/247
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry ==> 520.6.79000 ==> Rämmen (S) C:2 (1805-1839) Image 55 / page 103 (AID: v8144.b55.s103, NAD: SE/VA/13442)[10]
    • GID 520.6.79300, Rämen, C:2, FVD, 1805-39, 109/0, B 62/247
      • Translate Space:GID Ancestry Rämmen (S) C:2 (1805-1839) Image 58 / page 109 (AID: v8144.b58.s109, NAD: SE/VA/13442)[13]
    • Ljusnarsberg AI:16a (1830-1841) Bild 355 / sid 338 (AID: v51887.b355.s338, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[2]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:12 (1815-1829) Bild 134 (AID: v53561.b134, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[18]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:12 (1815-1829) Bild 174 (AID: v53561.b174, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[19]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:13 (1829-1848) Bild 26 (AID: v53562.b26, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[20]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:13 (1829-1848) Bild 57 (AID: v53562.b57, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[21]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:13 (1829-1848) Bild 92 (AID: v53562.b92, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[22]
    • Ljusnarsberg C:13 (1829-1848) Bild 123 (AID: v53562.b123, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[23]

Research Notes

GPS - Reasonably Exhaustive Search

Doing genealogy in Sweden you should follow the church books from birth to death and estate and inventory. If they are Blacksmith you will find more interesting sources. Below a check that we have found all church books.

Finding the sources for a Blacksmith a good start is being member in the special genealogical Blacksmith society Föreningen för Smedsläktsforskning

Checking gaps in church records

As Swedish church records follows a persons life its good practise to see if we miss some of them. Below the records we have and if we have any gaps.

This is part of the Genealogical Proof Standard step Reasonably Exhaustive Search

1798 jun 23 birth record Elg-19 Säfsnäs (W) C:2 (1776-1800) Image 96 (AID: v132066.b96, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)[1]

1794-1804 HFL Säfsnäs (W) AI:6 (1795-1804) Image 56 / page 50 (AID: v132041.b56.s50, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)[4]

1805-1814 HFL Säfsnäs (W) AI:7 (1805-1814) Image 60 / page 54 (AID: v132042.b60.s54, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)

1814-1818? HFL Säfsnäs (W) AI:8 (1815-1825) Image 830 / page 77 (AID: v132043a.b830.s77, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)

1815 oct 3 marriage record..Säfsnäs (W) EI:1 (1748-1838) Image 63 (AID: v132073.b63, NAD: SE/ULA/11506) - 2) Marriage record found

1815 nov 23 fathers death record nr 41: Säfsnäs (W) F:2 (1776-1827) Image 145 (AID: v132079.b145, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)[7]

7) Father dies 1815 nov 23 in Gravendal Säfsnäs we need Estate and inventory

1b) Moving out records doesnt exist 1819 for Säfsnäs they start 1835 see Serie "Flyttningslängder" Säfsnäs kyrkoarkiv, Dalarnas län NAD

1819 oct 25 Moving in record Rämen Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 20 / page 33 (AID: v8136.b20.s33, NAD: SE/VA/13442)

1819-1821 HFL Rämmen (S) AI:4 (1817-1821) Image 66 / page 61 (AID: v13097.b66.s61, NAD: SE/VA/13442)

1821-1822 HFL Rämmen (S) AI:5 (1822-1826) Image 20 / page 15 (AID: v13098.b20.s15, NAD: SE/VA/13442)

1822 jun 8 moving out Rämmen to Grangärde (W) Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 23 / page 39 (AID: v8136.b23.s39, NAD: SE/VA/13442)

1823 moving in to Säfsnäs from Grangärde Säfsnäs (W) AI:9 (1825-1834) Image 103 / page 97 (AID: v132044.b103.s97, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)[17]

1823-1825 HFL Säfsnäs (W) AI:9 (1825-1834) Image 103 / page 97 (AID: v132044.b103.s97, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)

1) HFL No Missing Household records 1798-1840

8) 1825 Moved from Säfsnäs to Ljusnarsberg - Säfsnäs has no moved in/out records 1825 HFL Missing moving out records 1818?

1825-1829 HFL Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:15a (1820-1829) Image 198 / page 187 (AID: v51885.b198.s187, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[14]

1830-1840 HFL Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:16a (1830-1841) Image 355 / page 338 (AID: v51887.b355.s338, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[2]

1832 oct 18 Birth daughter Maja Lotta Nr 161 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848) Image 57 (AID: v53562.b57, NAD: SE/ULA/10860) :nr 161[21]

1844 aug 28 Birth son Carl August nr 177 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:16 (1840-1860) Image 29 (AID: v53565.b29, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[24]

3) HFL Missing Household record 1840-1851

1851-1859 HFL Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:18b (1852-1861) Image 258 / page 535 (AID: v51893.b258.s535, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)

1862-1871 HFL Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:19c (1862-1871) Image 80 / page 578 (AID: v51899.b80.s578, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[25]

1862 sep 14 Death record husband Nr 82 Ljusnarsberg (T) F:8 (1857-1862) Image 93 (AID: v53584.b93, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[27]

1868 may 15 moving out record son Carl August Nr 60 Ljusnarsberg (T) B:6 (1853-1870) Image 37 (AID: v53546.b37, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[28] moving to North America

8) get records of Carl August leaving Sweden. Normal is chain emigration which means other family members will follow later

4) HFL Household record 1871-1875

1872-1875 HFL Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:20c (1872-1881) Image 89 / page 577 (AID: v51904.b89.s577, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[29]

5) Death record Elg-19 1875 jan 29 death record Ljusnarsberg (T) F:9 (1863-1877) Image 193 (AID: v53585.b193, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)[29]

6) Missing Estate and inventory Elg-19

- Sälgö-1 15:50, 12 May 2017 (EDT) as she is mentioned as Inhyse in[29] maybe its no estate and inventory created. Nothing found in Nya Kopparbergs bergslags häradsrätt (T) FII:14 (1863-1875) Image 764 (AID: v150101.b764, NAD: SE/ULA/11115)

HFL = Husförhörslängd Swedish for Household record

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 ArkivDigital Record. Säfsnäs (W) C:2 (1776-1800) Image 96 (AID: v132066.b96, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9 ArkivDigital Record. Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:16a (1830-1841) Image 355 / page 338 (AID: v51887.b355.s338, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  3. ArkivDigital Record. Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:19c (1862-1871) Image 80 / page 578 (AID: v51899.b80.s578, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 ArkivDigital Record. Säfsnäs (W) AI:6 (1795-1804) Image 56 / page 50 (AID: v132041.b56.s50, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  5. Arkiv Digital Record Säfsnäs (W) AI:7 (1805-1814) Image 60 / page 54 (AID: v132042.b60.s54, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  6. 6.0 6.1 Säfsnäs (W) AI:8 (1815-1825) Image 830 / page 77 (AID: v132043a.b830.s77, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Arkiv Digital Record Säfsnäs (W) F:2 (1776-1827) Image 145 (AID: v132079.b145, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  8. Säfsnäs (W) EI:1 (1748-1838) Image 63 (AID: v132073.b63, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  9. 9.0 9.1 Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 20 / page 33 (AID: v8136.b20.s33, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
  10. 10.0 10.1 Rämmen (S) C:2 (1805-1839) Image 55 / page 103 (AID: v8144.b55.s103, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 Rämmen (S) AI:4 (1817-1821) Image 66 / page 61 (AID: v13097.b66.s61, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
  12. In SOFI they define Viken as "Vik i Rämsjön" could be some were next to Rämmen
  13. 13.0 13.1 Rämmen (S) C:2 (1805-1839) Image 58 / page 109 (AID: v8144.b58.s109, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 14.4 14.5 Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:15a (1820-1829) Image 198 / page 187 (AID: v51885.b198.s187, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  15. 15.0 15.1 Rämmen (S) B:2 (1806-1844) Image 23 / page 39 (AID: v8136.b23.s39, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
    Nr 5
  16. Rämmen (S) AI:5 (1822-1826) Image 20 / page 15 (AID: v13098.b20.s15, NAD: SE/VA/13442)
  17. 17.0 17.1 17.2 Säfsnäs (W) AI:9 (1825-1834) Image 103 / page 97 (AID: v132044.b103.s97, NAD: SE/ULA/11506)
  18. 18.0 18.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:12 (1815-1829) Image 134 (AID: v53561.b134, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  19. 19.0 19.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:12 (1815-1829) Image 174 (AID: v53561.b174, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  20. 20.0 20.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848) Image 26 (AID: v53562.b26, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  21. 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 ArkivDigital Record. Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848) Image 57 (AID: v53562.b57, NAD: SE/ULA/10860) :nr 161
  22. 22.0 22.1 22.2 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848) Image 92 (AID: v53562.b92, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  23. 23.0 23.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:13 (1829-1848) Image 123 (AID: v53562.b123, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  24. 24.0 24.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) C:16 (1840-1860) Image 29 (AID: v53565.b29, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  25. 25.0 25.1 25.2 Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:19c (1862-1871) Image 80 / page 578 (AID: v51899.b80.s578, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  26. Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:18b (1852-1861) Image 258 / page 535 (AID: v51893.b258.s535, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  27. 27.0 27.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) F:8 (1857-1862) Image 93 (AID: v53584.b93, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  28. 28.0 28.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) B:6 (1853-1870) Image 37 (AID: v53546.b37, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
    Nr 60
  29. 29.0 29.1 29.2 29.3 29.4 Ljusnarsberg (T) F:9 (1863-1877) Image 193 (AID: v53585.b193, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  30. 30.0 30.1 Ljusnarsberg (T) AI:20c (1872-1881) Image 89 / page 577 (AID: v51904.b89.s577, NAD: SE/ULA/10860)
  31. 31.0 31.1 31.2 SOFI indicates on page Ljusnarsbergs socken : Nya Kopparbergs härad : Örebro län that Runnberg is the same as Rundberg today, hitta.se that also have the names of the plots today that can be the same as used in the church record




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