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Bethóc (Dunkeld) Nithsdale

Lady Bethóc Nithsdale formerly Dunkeld
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Bethóc (Dunkeld) Nithsdale was an inhabitant of Medieval Scotland.
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Biography

Bethóc Dunkeld, “an only child,” [1] was born about 1070 (based on her age being at least 15 in 1085, the date of her 1st marriage) the daughter of Donald III, King of Scots and an unknown mother. [2][3][4]

About 1085, she married 1st, Uhtred, Lord of Tynedale, son of Waltheof. [2][5]

Child of Bethóc Dunkeld and Uhtred, Lord of Tynedale

  1. Hextilda of Tynedale, m. 1st, abt. 1105, or abt. 1145, Richard de Comyn, son of John de Comyn; m. 2nd, aft. 1179, as his second wife, her second cousin, Malcolm, Earl of Atholl, son of Maddad, Earl of Atholl and his first wife. [2][5][6][7][8][9]

She married 2nd, Radulf, son of Dunegall Lord of Nithsdale, who died about 1185. [2]

She died 1150/70. [2][7]

Research Notes

  1. Hextilda FitzAndlaw, unsourced mother, was detached. Perkins-11750 20:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), citing, “Donald Bane…leaving an only child…Bethoc…,” vol. 1, pp. 2-3.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Cawley, Charles. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Medieval Lands Database. B.2. Donald.
  3. Duncan, A. A. M. Donald III Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. United Kingdom: Oxford University Press (2004), citing “he had a daughter, Bethóc, from whom John Comyn of Badenoch (d. 1302) derived his claim to the throne in 1291.”Donald III
  4. Bain, Joseph (ed.). Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland preserved in her Majesty’s Public Record Office, London. Edinburgh: H. M General Register House (1884), vol. II. A.D. 1272-1307, pp. xx, 123.
  5. 5.0 5.1 Dunbar, Archibald Hamilton. Scottish Kings: A Revised Chronology of Scottish History, 1005-1625, with Notices of the Principal Events, Tables of Regnal Years, Pedigrees, Tables, Calendars, Etc. United Kingdom: D. Douglas (1906), p. 43.
  6. Young, Alan, Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns, 1213–1314, (East Linton, 1997), p. 16, citing, “Hextilda was the daughter of Uhtred of Tynedale and Bethoc, only daughter of Donald Ban, brother of Malcolm Canmore and son of Duncan I, king of Scots.”
  7. 7.0 7.1 Young, Alan, Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns, 1213–1314, (East Linton, 1997), pp. 16, citing, “…Bethoc’, wife of Radulf, the son of Donegal lord of Nithdale. This Bethoc was the mother of Hextilda, wife of Richard Cumin…Radulf was Bethoc’s second husband…Bethoc predeceased Radulf (d. c.1185)…”
  8. Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), citing, “He married, about 1145, Hextilda, daughter of Huctred of Tynedale by his wife Bethoc, the daughter of Donald Bane.” vol. 1, pp. 504-505.
  9. Young, Alan, Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns, 1213–1314, (East Linton, 1997), p. 16, citing, “Hextilda was the daughter of Uhtred of Tynedale and Bethoc, only daughter of Donald Ban, brother of Malcolm Canmore and son of Duncan I, king of Scots.”




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This profile has been adopted by Scotland's medieval team in order to straighten out some confusions in this line. Profile manager, continue to oversee it as you have been.

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posted by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
. Bethoc Ingen. FitzWaldeve. Born Bane, Princess of Scotland. b. 1080-1160. m.c.1085 Uchtred (Hadrian) De Tyndale b. 1074 in Moray d.1152. Lord of Tyne-dale. Children: two sons John Fritz Uchtred and Robert Fritz Uchtred. one daughter Hextilda Fitz Uchtred Countess of Atholl de Comyn was born in 1122, in Tyne-dale,

source Scots Peerage, Vol. I, pg. 1 - 3. Ancestral Roots, 121A-23. Geni. Uchtred fitz Robert deTyndale c. 1125-1150. My Heritage/Hextilda_tyndale

posted by Donald McDonald
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Warning: Check the data. A mother's birth date (FitzAndlaw-1 born 1029) should not be more than 67 years before the birth date of one of her children (Dunkeld-59 born 1098) . A mother's death date (FitzAndlaw-1 died 16 Nov 1093) should not be before one of her children's birth dates (Dunkeld-59 born 1098) . A father's death date (Dunkeld-58 died 1097) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Dunkeld-59 born 1098) .

posted by David Urquhart
The profile depicted on this page appears to be in error. She appears to be Bethoc, daughter of Donald, as depicted in the lineage but not in the name; she cannot have been Bethoc, son (Mac) of Duncan. However the daughter to Donald, did marry a Huctred (or Gothric) of Tynedale, son of Waldef of Tynedale (Northumbria, England, not in Scotland as depicted on some pages). If her then she married c. 1085 and not 1120 as depicted. Her birth year is not provided in source but could be presumed c. 1065. She was only known to have had one child; dau Hextilda, or Histilla, who married a Richard Comyn, c. 1105. If this person I can rewrite the Profile and source this up for you. The Robert and John attached to this Profile are unknown in source.
posted by Doug Straiton

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