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Thomas Coleman Sr. (1652 - 1748)

Thomas Coleman Sr.
Born in Gloucester, Gloucester County, Colony of Virginiamap
Husband of — married 1677 in Gloucester, Gloucester County, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 95 in Gloucester County, Colony of Virginiamap
Profile last modified | Created 9 May 2011
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Biography

Thomas Coleman was born about 1652.[citation needed]

On 16 May 1705 in Gloucester County, Virginia, Thomas served as a witness for a Bond from John Boswell to Thomas Booth associated with a pair of Indentures dated 14 April 1705.[1]

Thomas passed away 14 Mar 1748, in Gloucester County, Virginia.[citation needed]

Children

The children of Thomas and Rebecca include:[2]

  1. dau. Ann, b. 3 Jul 1680
  2. dau. Grissel, b. 30 Apr 1682
  3. dau. Rebekah, b. 20 Jan 1685
  4. dau. Sarah, bpt. 6 Jun 1687
  5. dau. Mary, bpt. 10 Oct 1689
  6. son John, bpt. Mar 1700
  7. son Robert, bpt. 1 Feb 1702

Research Notes

Conflated

These two profiles appear to share the same death date, presumably based on the Will dated 10 Feb 1748 being proved on that date [?]: Spratlin-29 23:01, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Vital Statistics

Death
Thomas is purported to be buried at Abingdon Episcopal Church Cemetery, White Marsh, Gloucester County, Virginia.[3]

GEDCOM Import

These "facts" are effectively unsourced as no family tree link is provided to inspect sources there.

Name

Thomas Coleman[4]

Birth

1652 Abbingdon Parish, Gloucester, Virginia, USA.[4]

Death

14 MAR 1748 Abbington Parish, Gloucester, Virginia, USA.[4]

Marriage

Marriage: 1650 or 1655 Rappanhannock, Essex, Virginia, United States[5][6]

These marriage "records" appear to be for Thomas' parents (1650 or 1655), but the links are no longer available. Spratlin-29 23:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Siblings

This list of family members is unsourced, and more properly for the parents' profiles.

Husband: Robert (immigrant) Coleman
Wife: Elizabeth Grizzel Mott
Child: Thomas Coleman
Child: Grizzell Coleman
Child: Captain robert Coleman
Child: Elizabeth Coleman
Child: John Coleman
Child: Daniel Coleman
Child: Joseph Coleman
Child: Ann Coleman

Possible Record

Thomas was named as Godson of Thomas Ray in Ray’s will dated 25 Aug 1654. He received a cow calf.[7]

While York County is across the river from Gloucester County, so relatively close, what suggests this is the same Thomas Coleman. Is there a family relationship with the Rays? Spratlin-29 23:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Polly Cary Mason (compiler), Records of Colonial Gloucester County Virginia 2 Volumes (Newport News, Virginia: author, 1946), Vol. 2, pp86-87; digital images, FamilySearch (p2:86, p2:87).
  2. The Register of Abingdon Parish, Gloucester County, Virginia, 1677-1780.
  3. Find A Grave: Memorial #209178568 for Thomas Coleman (1652 VA – 1748 VA) (memorial only, no headstone photo).
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Source: S-2050775183. Page: Database online. Data: . Text: Record for Robert Coleman.
  5. Source: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Page: . Source number: 1632.083; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: . Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=501304&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: Birth place: EN Marriage date: 1655 Marriage place: APID: 1,7836::501304
  6. Source: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Page: . Source number: 1013.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: PKS. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=501305&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1632 Birth place: Marriage date: 1655 Marriage place: VA APID: 1,7836::501305
  7. Beverley Fleet, Virginia Colonial Abstracts, Volume 26, York County, 1648-1657 (Richmond, Virgnia), p62, especially "Will of Thomas Ray"; digital images, FamilySearch (title page).

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Since this profile is being managed by the U.S. Southern Projects can't one of the managers clean this up a bit so that speculation about Thomas is under Research Notes and only facts with sources are provided in the Biography. I could easily do it but don't want to overstep.
posted by Debbie (Costa) Garcia
The Project's role as co-manager of profiles is primarily to monitor changes to profiles to help ensure everyone is "driving between the lines" (Honor Code, collaboration, guidelines, etc.) on profiles within the scope of the Project. The Project is just one of the "We" in the first point of the Honor Code:

"We collaborate. When we share ancestors we work together on the same ancestor profiles."

You would not be overstepping, and your contributions will be greatly appreciated. Our "Needs Attention" list is a little out of hand:

US Southern Colonies Managed Profiles Needs Attention

posted by Ken Spratlin
This profile appears to be (or was) conflated with another listed in the research notes. This profile needs an identity statement (the other profile has one) and further deconflation. It is not clear where the death date that was previously shared between these two came from. I revised the other profile's death date based its Will execution date ("after") , lacking a Probate date ("before") to use. Need to locate images of that profile's Will and Probate.

The Parish records of the children's births appear to serve to deconflate these two Thomas Colemans, but this profile really needs a Will, Probate, or other death-related record.

posted by Ken Spratlin
I believe this may be the right order of things. Most of the profiles are already available and I am requesting merges to blend it all together. Most of this is based on the will of Thomas Coleman Sr. (1652 - 1748) and on
  • Coleman of Wales and Virginia, will transcript of Thomas Coleman1[1]
  • Wills from The Bird Papers, 1696-1810 King and Queen County Continued from The Bird Papers, Volume 2, Number 1, page 9, Will of Thomas Coleman, 1748. [2]

1st Spouse and children Rebecca Ann Claiborne ?surname? 1650– Mary Coleman 1678–1723 Ann Coleman 1680–1762 Grizzell Coleman 1682–1701 Sarah Coleman 1687– Thomas Coleman Jr 1688–1781 John Coleman 1699–

2nd Spouse and children Mary Lort 1681–1748 Robert Coleman 1701–1793 Richard Lort Coleman 1706–1752 Lucy Coleman 1718–1761 Dorothy Dolly Coleman 1732–1809 Elizabeth 'Betty' Coleman

This is quite the mess!

There are lowered numbered profiles for both Thomas and purported father Robert. The two Roberts are different enough to create concern.

There are 3 wives, but you didn't comment about disposition of Elizabeth.

And there are different but also overlapping children.

If any of these persons are conflated instead of duplicated, it will be difficult to unwind that after a merge.

I proposed to move these to unmerged matches, or reject the merges until they can be straighten out.

Ken Spratlin Managed Profiles Coordinator US Southern Colonies Project

posted by Ken Spratlin
Coleman-2036 and Coleman-713 appear to represent the same person because: Same parents, birth, and death.
posted by Rick Pierpont

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