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Ermengarde (Carolingian) de Provence (abt. 852 - 896)

Ermengarde de Provence formerly Carolingian aka d'Arles
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Wife of — married 0876 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 44 in Vienne, Provencemap
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Biography

Name

Ermengard (also Ermengarda, Ermengarde, or Irmingard) [1]
Ermengarde - Adelaide Carolingien de France[2]
Ermendardis d'Italie, Queen of Provence. [1]

Birth

She was born 843 [1]Born in 843, in the reign of her grandfather Lothair I, the year that her grandfather and granduncles partioned the empire of their own father, she grew up relatively privileged [3]

She also appears born 852 (no source)

Parentage

She was the only surviving daughter of Louis II, Holy Roman Emperor. [1]. Her father,Louis II was the eldest son and co emperor of the Emperor.

855 Death of Her Grandfather

In 855, when she was 12,the decrepit Lothair her grandfather died at age 60, and her father became Holy Roman Emperor. [1]

876 Marriage to Boso

In 876 aged 33, she married Boso, a Frankish nobleman of the Bosonid family who was related to the Carolingian dynasty [4] and who rose to become King of Lower Burgundy and Provence in 879. [1]

878 Sheltered the Pope

In May 878, she and her husband sheltered Pope John VIII, who was taking refuge from the Saracens, in Arles. [1]

879 Coup d'etat and War

After her husband's coup d'état in October 879, she helped defend his cities from her Carolingian relatives. In 880, she successfully defended Vienne itself, the capital, from the combined forces of Charles the Fat and the co-ruling kings of France, Louis III and Carloman. In August 881, the newly crowned Emperor Charles the Fat pillaged and burned Vienne, forcing Ermengard and her children to take refuge in Autun with her brother-in-law Richard, Duke of Burgundy. Meanwhile, Boso fled into Provence. [1]

887 Death of Boso

On Boso's death in January 887, the Provençal barons elected Ermengard to act as his regent, with the support of Richard. In May, Ermengard travelled with her son Louis to the court of Charles the Fat, and received his recognition of the young Louis as king. Charles adopted Louis as his son and put both mother and son under his protection. In May 889, she travelled to Charles' successor, Arnulf, to make submission anew. [1]

896 Death

Ermengard died on 2 June 896 in Vienne, then part of the Frankish Empire, and was buried in the town's first Cathedral of Saint-Maurice. [5] Her husband had been buried in the same cathedral in 887.[8] [6]

She was buried in the Cathedral of Saint-Maurice. Vienne.

Issue

Through her marriage to Boso, it is thought that Ermengard had two daughters and a son. [7] These were:

  1. Ermengarde/Ermengard (c. 877-April 12, 935), married Manasses I the Old, Count of Chalons-sur-Seine (Chalon-sur-Saône?); her mother is reported to have been Ermengard [1] Other sources indicate this relationship is unproven.
  2. Engelberge/Ethelberga, married firstly Carloman II, secondly William the Pious;[8] her mother is reported to have been Ermengard [1]. Other sources suggest this relationship is unproven.
  3. Louis the Blind (before 884-Jun3 5, 928), was betrothed to, and had a relationship with but possibly never married Anna/Eudocia Mamikonian, the illigitimate daughter of Zoe Zaoutzaina by Constantine VII. [9] Later, he married Adelaide of Burgundy, the daughter of Rudolph I of Burgundy and his half-sister Guilla of Provence. [10]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Wikipedia. Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  2. Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/13078823/person/1021869362/facts
  3. Ermengardis d'Italie, Queen of Provence. Accessed 8 February 2015, and cited by Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  4. Bouchard, Constance Brittain (Spring 1988). The Bosonids or Rising to Power in the Late Carolingian Age. French Historical Studies 15 (3 ed.). Society for French Historical Studies. pp. 407–431. His mother's father, Boso, provided a daughter, Tetburgis/Teutberga, Boso's aunt, to be wife of Lothair II. Cited by Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  5. Ermengardis d'Italie, Queen of Provence Accessed 8 February 2015.Footnote at Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  6. Vienne Cathedral Accessed 8 February 2015.Footnote at Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  7. Cawley, Charles, Ermengardis on FMG site, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, retrieved August 2012. Citation at Wikipedia indicates better source is needed.
  8. Riché, Pierre. Les Carolingiens: Une famille qui fit l'Europe (in French). Hachette litterature. p. genealogical table XII (Bosonides). ISBN 978-2010097379. Cited by Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  9. A letter attributed to Nicholas Mystikos by Christian Settipani mentions negotiations to betroth the second daughter to Louis the Blind. Whether negotiations were ever completed and whether the marriage ever occurred is not known. However Settipani and other genealogists consider Charles Constantine of Vienne to be the result of this marriage. Footnote at Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.
  10. Although sometimes said to be the daughter Ermengard, Guilla of Provence was born before Ermengard's marriage to Boso; this makes it likely that she was Boso's daughter by his first wife. Footnote at Wikipedia, Ermengard of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengard_of_Italy. Accessed Jan 15, 2016.

Wikipedia Sources

  • Riché, Pierr. Les Carolingiens: Une famille qui fit l'Europe, genealogical table XII (Bosonides)




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Ermengarde-19 and Carolingian-121 appear to represent the same person because: Carolingian, duplicate wife of Boso of Provence.
Italy-31 and Carolingian-121 appear to represent the same person because: Ermengarde Carolingian/of Italy must be the same person as Carolingian-121. Carolingian is the LNAB we need to keep and it is the protected profile.
Additional source:

Royal Genealogies, Or the Genealogical Tables of Emperors, Kings and Princes by Rev. James Anderson pub. 1732 https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=yrqeY839bMwC&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&authuser=0&hl=en&pg=GBS.PP3

Found on page 370/394 (first number is what is shown on the scanned pages, the second is the Google PDF page.)

Table 140 CXL The kings and Caesars in Italy, who in the Tenth Century opposed the first German Emperors. See Table CXVI page 370/394

I. Irmengardis the wife of Boso Count of Provence.

posted by Rod Carty
No evidence for a daughter named Kunigunde.
posted by Roger Travis Jr.

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