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Agnes (Blois) de Thouars (abt. 989 - aft. 1054)

Agnes de Thouars formerly Blois aka de Blois
Born about in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Poitou-Charentes, Francemap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 65 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Poitou-Charentes, Francemap
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Biography

European Aristocracy
Agnes Blois was a member of the aristocracy in Europe.

Agnes de Blois was the daughter of Eudes I de Blois, Comte de Blois, de Tours, de Chartres, de Troyes etc, and his wife Berthe de Bourgogne.[1] Her birth date is unknown, bur her parents married about 983-986, and her father died 12 March 996.[2]

She is mentioned in two charters of Saint-Pere de Chartres, of unknown date,[1] and in another charter dated September 1001 in the Cartulary of Bourgueil, where her mother (la reine Berthe) and three of her children; Thibaud, Eudes and Agnes, confirm a donation to the abbey of Bourgueil by Emma, Countess of Poitiers.[3]

Agnes de Blois, married Guy, vicomte de Thouars, bringing a large part of the territory of Saumur as her dowry.[1]

Research Notes

Who did she marry

Guy, Vicomte de Thouars, doesn't appear in the lists of the Vicomte de Thouars of this period, [4],[5] but both of these sources list Agnes, as the wife of Geoffroy II, Vicomte de Thouars 1015-1055.

However Charles Cawley in the Medieval Lands database, cites source that state that Geoffroy II's wife was named Aenor (Eleanore) not Agnes.[6] More research needs to take place to confirm who she married.

Dates

Previous dates on this profile have been retained but not sure of source for either birth or death dates.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Lex, Leonce, Eudes comte de Blois, de Tours, de Chartres, de Troyes et de Meaux (995-1037) et Thibaud, son frere (995-1004); Troyes: Dufour-Bouquot, 1892. p. 20. Digital image, Gallica, https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k66905v/f6.item.zoom : accessed 27 October 2019.
  2. van Kerrebrouck, Patrick. Les Capetiens 987-1328. Vol. 2. Nouvelle Histoire Genealogique de l'auguste Maison de France, edited by Patrick van Kerrebrouck. Villeneuve d'Ascq, 2000. p. 62 (note 44)
  3. Lex, Eudes I de Blois, p. 102.
  4. Wikipedia contributors, "List of viscounts of Thouars," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_viscounts_of_Thouars&oldid=886265343 (accessed 27 October 2019).
  5. Contributeurs de Wikipédia, "Liste des vicomtes et ducs de Thouars," Wikipédia, l'encyclopédie libre, https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liste_des_vicomtes_et_ducs_de_Thouars&oldid=162626308 (Page consultée le 27 October 2019).
  6. Cawley, Charles, and Foundation of Medieval Genealogy. "Poitou-Western: Chapter 2A. Vicomtes de Thouars" in Medieval Lands: A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families; http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/poitwest.htm#_Toc499880533 : accessed 27 October 2019.




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Thouars-11 and Blois-46 appear to represent the same person because: John please consider merging away this spurious Thouars-11 into Blois-46. I left some comments on the nuclear-family profiles explaining what I think has happened here.

Hints here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_viscounts_of_Thouars

...and see also Andrew Lancaster and/or Cawley.

Cheers

posted by Isaac Taylor
Is Agnes supposed to be the same person as Aenor the same person as Eleanor? Or have we conflated and confused this? Geoffrey has two wives linked currently neither with exactly the same name as provided by the primary sources at Cawley.

Geoffrey II m. Agnes de Blois. They lived in the first half of the 11th century.

Geoffrey IV m. Aenor (?Eleanor) de Lusignan. They lived in second half 12th century, i.e. more than a century later.

BUT all it would take is flimsy sourcing and ordinal confusion at any point over the last 900 years to call either (or both!) of those Geoffries wrongly Geoffrey III... and we'd inherit a conflation.

posted by Isaac Taylor
Not seeing Agnes Blois in the Thouar pedigree here http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc389218816
posted by Andrew Lancaster

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