John
Blair of that ilk
formerly Blair
Born about in Blair, Ayrshire, Scotland
Ancestors 
Son of John (Blair) Blair of that Ilk
and Beatrice Mortoun
Husband of
Helen (Montgomery) Montgomery Lady Blair
— married
before 15 Nov 1500 in Scotland
Descendants 
Father of
John (Blair) Blair of that Ilk and Margaret (Blair) Craufurd
Died
at about age 57
in Blair, Scotland
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| Preceded by John Blair |
[4th] Blair of that Ilk 1506 - 1533 |
Succeeded by John Blair |
Biography
John (Blair) Blair of that ilk is a member of Clan Blair.
John (Blair) Blair of that ilk was born in Scotland.
John was the son of John Blair[1] and Beatrice Mortoun.[2][3]
He is listed in a Letter of Reversion by Andrew Crawfurd of Balane to Hugh first Earl of Eglintoun.[4]
He married Helen/Elizabeth, daughter of Hugh Montgomery, 1st of Eglinton. [1][5][6][7] They had issue:
- John Blair, who succeeded to Blair.[1][7]
- Margaret Blair, who married john Crawfurd of Crawfurdland.[7][8]
John died about 1533.[1]
Research Notes
- SCM Stewart Clan Magazine, August 1934.
- "John Blair of that Ilk, son of David Blair, son of James Blair, son of James Blair, son of Roger Blair, son of David Blair, son of William Blair, son of William Blair. This first John Blair must be the one named in SP III p.438, where he is shown to have married (before 15 Nov. 1500) Helen Montgomery, daughter of Hugh Montgomery, 1st. Earl of Eglinton, by his wife Helen Campbell of Argyll. John had two daughters, Egidia and Elizabeth, and a son, John, his heir. [ LG p.505 says, "John Crauford, 12th of Craufurdland, m. Margaret, dau. of John Blair of that Ilk, by the Lady Elizabeth Montgomery, dau. of the 1st Earl of Eglintoun, and d. in 1583 . . . ." This should say Helen Montgomery, not Elizabeth. However, BP p.1784 says that a certain John Blair of that Ilk had a daughter named Margaret who married John Maxwell of Pollok, who died 1517. These must be referring to the same John Blair, but whether or not these two daughters named Margaret are in fact the same woman is not quite as certain."[9][10]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 MacGregor, Gordon, The Red Book of Scotland, Scotland, private, 2022, Ed. 3, Vol. I. 795
- ↑ Paterson, James, History of the Counties of Ayr and Wigton, Edinburgh: James Stillie, 1866, Vol. III Part I, Hathitrust, p. 160
- ↑ Paterson, James, "History of the County of Ayr: With a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire", Edinburgh: John Dick, 1852, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 358
- ↑ Fraser, William, "Memorials of the Montgomeries. Earls of Eglinton", Edinburgh: private, 1859, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 77
- ↑ Montgomerie, Earls of Eglinton Papers: GD3/1/1/2/1
- ↑ Fraser, William, "Memorials of the Montgomeries. Earls of Eglinton", Edinburgh: private, 1859, Vol. I, Archivev.org, p. 35
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 Paterson, James, History of the Counties of Ayr and Wigton, Edinburgh: James Stillie, 1866, Vol. III Part I, Hathitrust, p. 161
- ↑ Robertson, George, "A Genealogical Account of the Principal Families in Ayrshire, More Particulary in Cunninghame", Irvine: Cunninghame Press, 1823, Archive.org, pp. 82-3
- ↑ Douglas, Robert, The Baronage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Gentry of that Kingdom. Collected from the Public Records and Chartularies of this Country, the Records and Private Writings of Families and the Works of Our Best Historians, Edinburgh: 1798, Google Books, pp. 194-96
- ↑ Jared Olar, "Blair of that Ilk/Blair of Blair (2) -- Corrected", 6/13/96 Soc.Genealogy.Medieval Google Group, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/4jF0ZDcfgdU
See also:
- Wikidata: Item Q76296436
- Anderson, William, "Blair", The Scottish Nation; or. The surnames, families, literature, honours, and biographical history of the people of Scotland, Edinburgh: A. Fullerton & Co., 1867, Vol. I, Archive.org, pp. 318-321 also available at Electric Scotland: The Scottish Nation: Blair
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edited by Jared Olar
The sources of the Blairs of Middle Auchindraine succession were quoted and cited by James Paterson in his account of that family. Paterson's accounts of both the Blairs of that Ilk and the Blairs of Middle Auchindraine were slightly off, though, since he'd mistakenly skipped the John Blair who married Helen Ross. See the Wikitree profiles of the Blairs of Middle Auchindraine for the relevant sources that indicate when this John Blair must have died.
Turning to the cited page 35 in volume one of Fraser's "Memorials", this is what we read:
"11. Lady Helen, married John Blair of that Ilk. His father, John Blair of that Ilk, granted a reversion of the lands of Drummostyr and the Holmbyre, in the barony of Ardrossan, to Hew Lord Montgomerie, for payment of 500 merks as the tocher of Helen, daughter of Hew, on her marriage to John Blair, son and apparent heir of the granter, dated 15th November 1500."
As his source for this information, Fraser cites "Drummoster Writs at Eglintoun."
Thus, as Scots Peerage stated, John Blair and Helen Montgomerie were married in the late autumn of 1500, prior to 15 Nov. of that year. This provides the primary source from which the information regarding John Blair's marriage to Helen was derived. It also provides a primary source identifying John Blair as the son and heir apparent of John Blair of that Ilk.
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edited by Jared Olar
"XII. John Blair of that Ilk succeeded his father in the reign of James V. He had a Charter, 12th August, 1540, of the five merk land of Dalquhone in Ayrshire; and another, 12th March, 1544, of the nine merk land of Bogton, Holmhead, and two third-parts of the mill of Cathcart in the shire of Renfrew -- which lands continued in the family at least till 1679, when part of them was sold to Hamilton of Aikenhead, ancestor of James Hamilton of Holmhead. He died in the end of the reign of Queen Mary. He married Lady Elizabeth Montgomerie, daughter of Hugh, first Earl of Eglinton, by whom he had a son, John; and, a daughter, Margaret, married to John Craufurd of Craufurdland. He was succeeded by his son,
"XIII. John Blair of that Ilk, . . . ."
Paterson also shows in a footnote on this page:
"Ninian, son of John Blair of that Ilk (whether XI. or XII. we know not), and his spouse, viz., Isobel Kennedie, Lady of Cloncarde, had a charter granted to them by James, Commendator of Kelso and Melrose, dated 8th October, 1553, of all and haill the 5 1/2 merk land of Fischertoun, in the lordship of Monkton. -- Marg. Sig. in the W.S.'s Library."
Peter Murray of Markham, Ontario, provides the following corrected, de-tangled account of these two generations of this family, in his unpublished paper, "Blair Family -- Ancient Lairds of Blair, in Ayrshire, Scotland" (12 March 1999):
"JOHN BLAIR of that Ilk, succeeded his father in the reign of James V (1513+) and obtained charters to additional lands in Ayrshire dated 1540 and 1544. He resigned his lands to his son John in 1546. How long he lived after that is not known. In 1513 he inherited half of the property of Middle Auchindrane from his father killed at Flodden. He would appear to have surrendered or bequeathed this property to a nephew and namesake in 1548. In that year his share was reunited with the share of his brother James Blair who had died in 1547 and confirmed in possession of John Blair of Middle Auchindrane, who was probably a son of James. John Blair of that Ilk married, apparently at a young age, Elizabeth Montgomerie, daughter of Hugh, 1st Earl of Eglinton, by his wife Helen Campbell daughter of Colin, 1st Earl of Argyll. They had a son who is apparently in error omitted in most accounts of the family,
"JOHN BLAIR of that Ilk, obtained a charter to Blair and other lands on the resignation of his father in 1546. He succeeded his father and died ca.1567 not long before the death of his son and successor. He married in 1524, in the lifetime of his father (marriage dispensation), Helen Ross, daughter of John, 2nd Lord Ross of Halkhead. The accounts of Douglas, Robertson and Paterson omit him and his marriage, apparently in error, attributing his issue incorrectly to his father's marriage with Elizabeth Montgomerie. He left issue, presumably by Helen Ross:
"1a. John Blair of that Ilk, who follows below.
"2a. Alexander Blair of Windy-edge, stated by his grandson the celebrated Revd Robert Blair to be brother-germain of the laird of Blair. Which Laird of Blair was his brother is deduced from the dates of other family members. In addition to the family of Revd Robert Blair and his Blair descendants of Avontoun, this Alexander Blair is ancestor of the families of Blair of Giffordland and Blair of Burrowland. (see BLAIR OF GIFFORDLAND for the descent of our ancestor Sarah Blair, wife of Samuel Watkinson)
"3a. Ninian Blair, had with his spouse, Isobel Kennedy, Lady of Cloncarde, a charter to the land of Fishertoun in Monkton, dated 1553. The name Ninian appears also in the family of Helen Ross the apparent mother of this Ninian Blair, which may explain his name which is otherwise unknown in the Blair family.
"4a. Margaret Blair, stated explicitly by Paterson to be daughter of John Blair and Elizabeth Montgomerie but from the dates must have instead been son of John Blair and Helen Ross. She married John Craufurd of Craufurdland, parents of John Craufurd of Craufurdland and Thomas Craufurd of Giffordland. The latter was father-in-law of John Blair of Giffordland (see CRAUFURD OF GIFFORDLAND and BLAIR OF GIFFORDLAND for our line of descent.)"
edited by Jared Olar
On Sunday, 21 July 1510, John brought Sir Thomas Brown into the Dalry church near Blair House, leading to a conflict with the church and the Archbishop of Glasgow. Since Brown had been excommunicated he was not allowed to associate with parishioners much less be on church grounds. Refusing to leave, Brown was forcibly ejected and John Blair had to answer for his actions to the Archbishop on 31 July 1510.
Citation Tag: <ref>Bain, J., & Rogers, C. (2009b). Diocesan Registers of Glasgow (Vol. 1). Anguline Research Archives. MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. (https://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-50192/diocesan-registers-of-glasgow-volume-1) Accessed on 3 Nov 2020.</ref>
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