Residence: There are 2 Milltowns in Offaly. With the english name Armstrong it is assumed that they would come from the more affluent, i.e. near Shinrone
Occupation
Occupation: Farmer
Note
Note: The Armstrong clan is very difficult to untangle. The following table shows how data from various sources is in conflict
Armstrong Facts and Fiction
Own Death Own Migration Own Marriage Cheryl Marshal Midlands Ancestry
Certificate Record Certificate Email Report
Phoebe(Phebe)
Name Phoebe Phebe Phoebe Phoebe Phebe
Date of Birth 1841 1840 24 March 1838
Date of baptism 5 April 1838
Place of birth Kings County, Ireland Milltown, Kings County
Father William Armstrong William William
Mother Hannah Lucas Elizabeth Not Rec
Migration when 1864 27 March 1864
Migration per Montrose
Married to James McMahon
Married at Sydney NSW Sydney
Date married 1866 20 Oct 1866
Date of death 10-Oct-18
Place of death 297 Forbes St Sydney
Offspring
Lucas
Name Lucas Lucas Lucas
Date of Birth 1837 27 Dec 1834
Place of birth Ireland
Date of baptism No Rec
Father William Armstrong William
Mother Lucy Ellis Eliza
Migration when 1852 June 1857
Migration per Algiers
Married to Mary Braggett Mary Braggett
Married at Cassilis NSW C of E Mudgee
Date married 1871 6 Jan 1865
Date of death 14-May-15
Place of death 188 Queen St Woollahra
Offspring William, Thomas
Senior Warren
Name Senior Warren Senior W
Date of Birth 1842 1846
Date of baptism
Place of birth Dublin Ireland Kings County
Father William Armstrong William
Mother Phoebe Lucas Phoebe Lucas
Migration when 1863 June 1862 1862
Migration per Lightning Lightning
Married to Dorah Doolan Dora Dolan
Married at Sydney
Date married 1868
Date of death 19-Sep-23
Place of death Bingara NSW
Offspring Lucas, Joseph, George George ,William, Lucas, Joseph
William
Name William
Date of Birth 2 Jan 1837
Date of baptism 29 Jan 1837
Place of birth
Father William
Mother Elizabeth
After long consideration I believe that the Armstrong clan goes like this.
William was married to Elizabeth(AKA Eliza) and they had 3 kids Lucas in 1834, William(AKA John) in 1837 and Phoebe(AKA Phebe) in 1838. These three were born in Shinrone Parish Kings County. For reasons unknown, William then had Senior Warren in 1842 in Dublin with Phoebe(Possibly AKA Hannah) Lucas. Elizabeth may have died between 1838 and 1842 or William may have left her and headed for the big smoke.
Email on Armstrong from Cheryl Marshal
From: Grahame Marshall [ajax10@@bigpond.com]
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 3:16 PM
To: jmcmahon@@actewagl.net.au
Subject: Armstrong Family
Hello John,
I saw your post on Phoebe Armstrong(1842 _ 1918) in Genealogy. My Greatgrandfather Senior Warren Armstrong was born in Kings County ( now Offaly ) Ireland in 1846. He came to Australia on the ship Lighting in the year 1862. His father's name was William & his mother's was Phoebe Lucas.
My greatgrandmother was Dora Dolan, she came out from Ireland on the ship called Montrose on the 27th March 1864. I think your greatgrandmother & my greatgrandfather could have been related. My grandfather was Greoge and his brothers were william, Lucas, Senior (died as a baby) and Joseph.
Hoping to hear from you.
Cheryl Marshall
Note: I am convinced that despite confusion creeping in from unreliable sources such as death certificates, there was only one pair of parents for the 5 Armstrong children and they were William Armstrong and Phoebe/Elizabeth Lucas. Even though Hannah and Senior Warren do not appear in the Midlands Ancestry report, they are siblings. I cannot yet explain why they were not in those records. There is evidence that Hannah and Senior claimed tro come from the Kilballyskeas area. It is possible that the family was out of that area when they were born.
Sources
↑ Ancestry.com Cheryl Marshal's Grieve family tree
↑ Baptismal Certificate Pembrokeshire Record Office, The Castle, Haverfordwest, Dyfed , Wales Record ID Number: 178
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