Joyce Allen

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My brother did the FamilyTree Y-dna 2007. Reason: Our father was an orphan. We were trying to locate who his parents were. It came out 67/65 HOLT. My father's mother we are certain was ALLEN from Wayne County TN USA. We never did locate his mother's family as to the exact person she was. There were three women in this family that could have given birth. We believe it was a child of Robert Allen and Sarah Bradley who married in 1855. Or it could have been Sarah, because Robert died in the Civil War in 1862 and Sarah kept having children and when Martha Ann was older she had children and never married. In that time unmarried woman gave the children the family name. I am doing this in a hurry and probably not giving good straight info. You can ask whatever you want because I would like to know the exact female who gave him birth. We are working with the HOLT family so far it has brought us to William Nathaniel HOLT. I am going to have to leave and finish this later. Did not know I had to write all of this. Sorry about this. Be Back Update 2014: I have located my dad's mother according to the information her aunt gave me before she died. Martha Ann Allen was my father's mother, her parents were: Robert Allen and Sarah Bradley Allen. Robert's first wife was Elizabeth Bradley born 1826. She and Robert had two sons: William Thomas Allen b 1849, Addison Perry Allen b 1851 Wayne County Tennessee. Elizabeth died shortly after Addison was born and Robert married her sister; Sarah Bradley. This may sound confusing because Robert and Sarah had 4 children: James Shelton Allen, Sarilda Allen, Betsy Ann Allen and Allen. Martha used her middle name "Ann" . She bound my dad out when he was around 5 years of age. He lived with Mrs Jennie Pennington in Maury County TN., he learned to work and helped her on the farm as her husband had left her and she had no help. She took my dad in and along with him he had a half-brother; Frank. This was after the Civil War and life was tough for a woman with 6 children to feed and care for. They lived in the most southern part of Tennessee along the Alabama border. The soldiers going North would stop and help themselves to whatever they could get their hands on to eat. Also, the soldiers going south would do the same thing. They would take their pigs, chickens, horses,cows as well as rape the women. Some of the people in that part of Tennessee were sympathic to the South and their neighbors had sympathy for the North and they would get into knock down drag out fights, argue and end up shooting and killing their neighbors. I have decided to work my Allen lineage on my Allen side. My father was Seth Robert Allen, his mother was Martha Ann Allen, her father was Robert Allen, his father was William "Hal" Howell Allen. Since I have had my Autosomal I have located many Allens from England and Ireland who have relocated to the USA prior to the Revolutionary War. So far the older ones it seems to be true that they were Quakers. It has been a shock to me because my Allens that came into Tennessee were not very religious so I was told . After "Robert" died Sarah hitched the wagon up and she left Sarilda with the Fowler family and took the other children with her into Maury County TN., where they would be safe away from those soldiers. How she lucked upon this I do not know but it seems that a Mr. Goodloe took a liking to her. and put her to work in his home, along with a two-story log house. The boys went to work on the farm as share-croppers. I suppose Mr. Goodloe thought of her as a mistress for she bore him several children. Since Sarah was actually a Bradley, there was no biological Allen in the children that she gave birth to after Robert died in 1862. She continue to give them the Allen name, and there is no telling how many Allens from that area are not Allens afterall. Another story about "Ann" Allen. She was the daughter of Robert Allen and Sarah Bradley, so my dad is her fathers' grandson. That makes Robert my great-grandfather. I had thought that after we did the Y-dna that I was not an Allen anymore, and did not know which end was up! I fooled around for years thinking about it and found that yep I am an Allen. Half of my Autosomal is my mothers' and other half is my dad's. That the way it looks to me.