Leslie Lucius Vroman
24 Dec 1893
Farnam, Dawson, Nebraska, United States
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06 Oct 1936
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last edited 29 May 2024
Lucious Elmer Vroman
12 Jun 1862
Paw Paw, Lee, Illinois, United States
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01 Jan 1938
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last edited 29 May 2024
George Vroman
1860
New York, United States
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last edited 25 May 2024
Anna M. Vroman
1870
St. Lawrence, New York, United States
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1891
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managed by Matthew Moquin / last edited 25 May 2024
Solomon Vroman
1828
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1918
St. Lawrence, New York, United States /
managed by Matthew Moquin / last edited 25 May 2024
Johanna Vroman
abt 1849
IJsselstein, Utrecht, Nederland
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aft 1887
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managed by Jos de Kloe / last edited 24 May 2024
Keetje Vroman
11 Oct 1839
IJsselstein, Utrecht, Nederland
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03 May 1916
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last edited 24 May 2024
Samuel Salomon Vroman
abt 1807
Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland
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aft 1849
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managed by Jos de Kloe / last edited 24 May 2024
John Maurice Vroman
28 Jan 1923
North Branch, North Branch Township, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
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1963
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managed by Rick Ribble / last edited 24 May 2024
Linda Grace (Vroman) Nelson
17 Aug 1947
Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States
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19 Feb 2004
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managed by Rick Ribble / last edited 24 May 2024
Mary Ann (Vroman) Harney
18 Jun 1934
Lusk, Niobrara County, Wyoming, United States of America
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18 Jun 2008
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managed by Linda MacDonald / last edited 15 May 2024
Talesha Vroman
managed by Talesha Vroman / last edited 10 May 2024
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Gustavus S Vroman
1868
Illinois, United States
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03 Apr 1923
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last edited 9 May 2024
Catherine (Vroman) Chaffee
07 Mar 1865
Alto Township, Lee, Illinois, United States
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06 Oct 1939
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managed by Kathleen Brownston / last edited 9 May 2024
Mary (Vroman) Lewis
1841
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 9 May 2024
Arthur A. Vroman
abt May 1854
New York, United States
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aft 1900
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 8 May 2024
James Vroman
abt 1810
New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 7 May 2024
Abraham Vroman
abt 1858
New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 7 May 2024
Daniel Vroman
abt 1842
New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 5 May 2024
Thomas Vroman
abt 1820
New York, United States
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bef 1880
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 3 May 2024
Sarah (Vroman) Cain
1854
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 3 May 2024
Charles Vroman
abt 1857
Schoharie, New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 3 May 2024
Harison Vroman
1847
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 3 May 2024
Jacob V. Vroman
abt 1848
Schoharie, New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 3 May 2024
Gracie Vroman
May 1880
Schoharie, New York, United States
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 30 Apr 2024
Wallace Vroman
abt 1875
Schoharie, New York, United States
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aft 1950
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 30 Apr 2024
Angelina (Vroman) Thompson
abt 1820
Schoharie, New York, United States
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bef 1880
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managed by Jaki Erdoes / last edited 30 Apr 2024
David Vroman
-
24 Apr 1863
Milliken's Bend, Madison, Louisiana, United States /
last edited 29 Apr 2024
Catherine Vroman
18 Feb 1824
Fonda, Mohawk, Montgomery, New York, United States
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1844
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managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 29 Apr 2024
Jane E (Vroman) Brockway
07 May 1844
Erie, New York, United States
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20 Sep 1913
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 9 Apr 2024
Lewis Vroman
12 Oct 1807
Glenville, Schenectady, New York, USA
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16 Apr 1875
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 29 Mar 2024
Leta (Vroman) Mauger
23 Mar 1878
West Troy, Rensselaer, New York, United States
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11 May 1960
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managed by Karen Gunn / last edited 20 Mar 2024
Charles Vroman
20 Mar 1846
Aurora, Erie, New York, United States
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27 Nov 1923
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 17 Mar 2024
Emma Vroman
abt 1853
New York, United States
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abt 1920
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 16 Mar 2024
Augusta Vroman
abt 1842
New York, United States
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abt 1910
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 16 Mar 2024
Seth Vroman
abt 1840
New York, United States
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abt 1910
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 16 Mar 2024
Lucius Vroman
abt 1837
New York, United States
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abt 1900
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managed by Mel Green / last edited 16 Mar 2024
Orville Jay Vroman
09 Dec 1931
Schenevus, Otsego, New York, United States
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15 Oct 1991
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managed by Gary Davine / last edited 13 Mar 2024
Samuel Vroman
1800
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 11 Mar 2024
Thomas Vroman
1877
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 7 Mar 2024
Susie Vroman
1879
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 7 Mar 2024
Richard H. Vroman
1872
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 7 Mar 2024
Harry Vroman
1874
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 7 Mar 2024
Emma Vroman
1876
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 7 Mar 2024
Sarah E. Vroman
1865
New York, United States
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managed by Sally Stewart / last edited 6 Mar 2024
Martinus B. Vroman
22 Nov 1774
Canajoharie, Tryon, New York Colony
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19 Aug 1849
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managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 25 Feb 2024
Donna Vroman
managed by Donna Vroman / last edited 16 Feb 2024
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Clara M (Vroman) Stafford
26 Jul 1861
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20 Oct 1950
Oxford, Marquette County, Wisconsin, United States /
last edited 13 Feb 2024
Clifford J Vroman
15 Dec 1869
Wisconsin, United States
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25 Jun 1872
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last edited 13 Feb 2024
Jacob Ransom Vroman
14 Jul 1831
Schoharie County, New York, United States
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25 Jun 1921
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last edited 13 Feb 2024
Joseph Schuyler Vroman
23 Oct 1844
Schoharie, New York, United States
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abt 13 Oct 1926
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managed by John Ralls / last edited 4 Feb 2024
Leah (Vroman) Yerdon
13 Sep 1806
Minden, Montgomery County, New York
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05 Aug 1877
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managed by C Coleman / last edited 23 Jan 2024
John Meade (Vroman) Vrooman
May 1837
Ridgefield Township, Huron, Ohio, United States
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14 Jun 1920
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managed by Pam Vrooman / last edited 1 Jan 2024
Betty Vroman
managed by Betty Vroman / last edited 20 Dec 2023
William George Vroman
abt 1822
Berkshire, Delaware, Ohio, USA
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1891
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 26 Nov 2023
Benjamin Van Vechten Vroman
13 Aug 1805
Fonda, Mohawk, Montgomery, New York, United States
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23 Feb 1861
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managed by Pam Vrooman / last edited 3 Nov 2023
LeNore Pearl Vroman
31 Mar 1914
Cherryvale, Montgomery, Kansas, United States
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29 Aug 1995
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last edited 25 Sep 2023
Lueva (Vroman) Lane
08 Sep 1879
Watervliet, Albany, New York, United States
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05 Mar 1965
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managed by Karen Gunn / last edited 20 Sep 2023
Bertha (Vroman) Hayman
08 Feb 1884
West Troy, Rensselaer, New York, United States
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24 Aug 1959
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managed by Karen Gunn / last edited 18 Sep 2023
Lewis Vroman
May 1842
New York, United States
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17 Sep 1907
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managed by Karen Gunn / last edited 18 Sep 2023
Thomas Vroman
26 Jan 1879
Michigan, United States
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17 Sep 1913
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managed by Gillian Adam / last edited 10 Sep 2023
Frances Evelyn Vroman
24 Dec 1911
Jackson, Michigan, United States
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21 Jun 1999
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managed by Gillian Adam / last edited 10 Sep 2023
Samuel Vroman
abt 1837
Indiana, United States
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25 Oct 1891
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managed by K Raymoure / last edited 8 Sep 2023
W. W. Vroman
-
22 Apr 1862
Shiloh, Hardin, Tennessee, United States /
last edited 5 Sep 2023
Thomas Vroman
31 Jan 1852
Blenheim, Schoharie, New York, United States
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23 Sep 1938
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last edited 31 Aug 2023
Stephen Vroman
abt 1824
New York, United States
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26 May 1902
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last edited 31 Aug 2023
Katie (Vroman) Bogue
1853
Blenheim, Schoharie, New York, United States
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14 Aug 1882
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last edited 31 Aug 2023
Lyle Raymond Vroman
04 Oct 1908
Waseca, Waseca, Minnesota, United States
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02 Sep 1976
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last edited 21 Aug 2023
Rosanna O Vroman
abt 1847
Canada
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21 Nov 1901
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managed by Vickie Miranda / last edited 11 Aug 2023
Phillip Vroman
22 Aug 1823
South Worcester, Otsego, New York, United States
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28 Nov 1912
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managed by Cathy Combs / last edited 16 Jul 2023
Geertruy Vroman
22 Dec 1751
Vroomans Land, Schoharie, New York
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1794
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managed by Tanya Herring / last edited 12 Jul 2023
Engeltje (Vroman) Veeder
bef 12 Jun 1709
Albany, Albany County, New York
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 5 Jul 2023
Katarina Janse Vroman
bef 01 Jun 1701
Schenectady, New York
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18 Apr 1755
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managed by Ellen Smith / last edited 11 Jun 2023
Rebecca (Vroman) Wallace
Dec 1819
Westerlo, Albany, New York, United States
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1909
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managed by Mark Griep / last edited 22 Apr 2023
Gertrude Mae Vroman
17 Mar 1877
Numa, Appanoose, Iowa, United States
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30 Apr 1964
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managed by Deborah Campbell / last edited 30 Mar 2023
Joseph Schuyler Vroman
04 Dec 1894
Middleburgh, Scoharie, New York, USA
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25 Sep 1936
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managed by John Ralls / last edited 9 Mar 2023
Harold Stanton Vroman
29 Aug 1893
Middleburgh, Schoharie County, New York, USA
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10 May 1912
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managed by John Ralls / last edited 8 Mar 2023
Barent Vroman
10 Sep 1892
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07 Oct 1892
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managed by John Ralls / last edited 8 Mar 2023
Mary Ellen (Vroman) Smuck
30 Jan 1839
Berkshire, Delaware County, Ohio, USA
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30 Jan 1904
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 1 Mar 2023
Buck Gustas Vroman
11 Nov 1915
Wyoming, United States
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11 Jun 1970
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managed by George Berthelson / last edited 22 Feb 2023
Magdalena Janse (Vroman) Vrooman
06 Jul 1704
Schenectady, Albany County, New York
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06 Apr 1732
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 29 Jan 2023
Cornelis Jansz Vroman
bef 29 Jan 1706
Schenectady, Albany County, Province of New York
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abt 1733
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 24 Jan 2023
Hendrick B. (Vroman) Vrooman
bef 16 May 1742
Caughnawaga, Tryon, New York
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aft 23 Apr 1814
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 10 Jan 2023
Emma (Vroman) Platt
22 Jun 1850
Ohio
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22 May 1893
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managed by Mary Gossage / last edited 5 Jan 2023
Adam (Vroman) Vrooman
bef 02 Apr 1716
Schenectady, Albany County, New York
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 18 Dec 2022
George James Vroman
1833
Albany, Albany County, New York, USA
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06 Apr 1892
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last edited 25 Oct 2022
Peter Vroman
abt 1823
New York, United States
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01 May 1873
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managed by Ellen Fowler / last edited 1 Oct 2022
Emily Corella (Vroman) Parker
27 Jul 1857
Fall Creek, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
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27 Aug 1930
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managed by Ellen Fowler / last edited 1 Oct 2022
Joseph A. Vroman
24 Feb 1902
Belgium
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28 Oct 1995
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managed by Joyce MacKay / last edited 21 Sep 2022
Nora Vroman
abt 1868
Connecticut, United States
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managed by K Raymoure / last edited 15 Sep 2022
Adam Vroman
15 Dec 1803
Coeymans, Albany, New York, United States
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16 Feb 1860
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managed by Kent Miller / last edited 13 Sep 2022
Pieter Meese Vroman
05 Jun 1720
Schoharie, Albany County, Province of New York
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bef 1768
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 2 Sep 2022
Frank J Vroman
04 Sep 1891
Schoolcraft, Kalamazoo, Michigan, United States
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22 Jan 1965
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managed by Scott Hutchins / last edited 3 Jul 2022
Helen Margaret (Vroman) Taylor
21 Jan 1918
Coldwater, Branch, Michigan, United States
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21 Aug 2003
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managed by Scott Hutchins / last edited 3 Jul 2022
Mary Elizabeth Vroman
15 May 1884
Jackson, Adams, Wisconsin, USA
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16 Jun 1978
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managed by Lloyd Lancaster / last edited 18 Jun 2022
Wilbur Vroman
03 Nov 1909
LaSalle, Illinois, United States
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last edited 14 May 2022
Henry William Vroman
04 Sep 1870
Champaign, Champaign, Illinois, United States
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22 Aug 1954
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last edited 14 May 2022
Horace Eugene Vroman
16 Nov 1833
Delaware, Ohio, United States
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19 Apr 1917
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last edited 14 May 2022
Myron Elmer Vroman
09 Feb 1930
Ravenna, Buffalo, Nebraska
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May 1975
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last edited 14 May 2022
Leslie Evert Vroman
15 May 1920
Guernsey, Platte, Wyoming
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14 Mar 1938
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last edited 14 May 2022
Vivian May Vroman
27 Jun 1918
Havelock, Lancaster, Nebraska
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30 Aug 1995
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last edited 14 May 2022
Cornelia Vroman
17 Dec 1797
Strijen, Zuid-Holland, Nederland
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last edited 23 Apr 2022
Vera Pearl Vroman
31 Mar 1898
Plattsmouth, Cass, Nebraska, United States
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24 Oct 1981
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managed by Shaun Kelley / last edited 19 Apr 2022
Robert Roy Vroman
11 Aug 1905
Stanton, Stanton, Nebraska, United States
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08 Jun 2005
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last edited 18 Apr 2022
Alice Jane Vroman
12 Oct 1902
Stanton, Stanton, Nebraska, United States
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04 Apr 1982
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last edited 18 Apr 2022
Eva Viola Vroman
04 Jul 1918
Holly, Prowers, Colorado, United States
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16 Feb 2016
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last edited 18 Apr 2022
Donald Burdette Vroman
21 Jan 1901
Rhoadesville, Orange, Virginia, United States
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28 Mar 1983
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last edited 18 Apr 2022
Hiram Burdette Vroman
03 Mar 1879
Stanton, Nebraska, United States
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27 Jun 1967
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last edited 18 Apr 2022
Mary A. (Vroman) Tuttle
28 Sep 1842
New York, United States
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30 Aug 1915
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managed by Matthew Moquin / last edited 3 Mar 2022
Cecile Vroman
22 Jan 1888
Schoharie, New York, United States
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02 Sep 1969
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managed by Janet Wright / last edited 2 Mar 2022
Olive Vroman
26 Jul 1860
Bradford, Pennsylvania, United States
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22 Feb 1863
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last edited 28 Jan 2022
Stacy Vroman
managed by Stacy Vroman / last edited 27 Jan 2022
Bartholomeus Hendricks Vroman
bef 04 Jun 1659
Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Nederland
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09 Feb 1690
/
managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 8 Jan 2022
Alvin Darold Vroman
29 Aug 1920
Albany, Whiteside, Illinois, United States
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02 Apr 2018
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managed by K Frazier / last edited 21 Nov 2021
Eugene Raymond Vroman
05 Dec 1899
Harmon, Lee, Illinois, United States
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19 Oct 1988
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managed by K Frazier / last edited 21 Nov 2021
Raymond Ward Vroman
10 Aug 1911
Rensselaer, New York, United States
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04 Nov 1993
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managed by Sue Townsend / last edited 22 Oct 2021
Russell W Vroman Jr
17 Dec 1938
Albany, Albany, New York, United States
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07 Sep 2015
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managed by Sue Townsend / last edited 22 Oct 2021
John William Vroman
05 Jan 1829
Sharon, Schoharie County, New York, United States
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25 Mar 1916
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last edited 23 Sep 2021
Henry Alvin Vroman
abt 1895
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abt 1989
Broome, New York, United States /
managed by Vroman Vroman / last edited 18 Aug 2021
Henry Alvin Vroman Jr
11 Jun 1933
Broome, New York, United States
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abt 02 Oct 2004
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managed by Vroman Vroman / last edited 18 Aug 2021
Harold Burch Vroman
18 Sep 1922
Sturgis, St. Joseph, Michigan, United States
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01 Apr 1990
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last edited 13 Aug 2021
Leonard Ernest Vroman
04 Apr 1928
Ravenna, Buffalo, Nebraska
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13 Dec 1989
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managed by Catherine Ryan / last edited 25 Jul 2021
Glen Edward Vroman
14 Apr 1921
Methow, Okanogan, Washington, United States
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27 May 1978
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
Daniel Morgan Vroman
30 May 1915
Washington, United States
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30 Mar 1926
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
Unknown Vroman
12 Jul 1899
Okanogan County, Washington, USA
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14 Sep 1899
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
Lela Vroman
31 Aug 1891
Chelan, Washington, USA
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17 Aug 1979
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
Daniel Adam Vroman
10 Dec 1851
Ohio, USA
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13 Oct 1920
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
Bert Jay Vroman
03 Nov 1884
Randolph, Cedar, Nebraska, United States
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21 Nov 1969
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 13 May 2021
William Jay Vroman
01 Nov 1913
Michigan, United States
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14 Jun 1987
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managed by Carol Burman / last edited 9 May 2021
Claude Edgar Vroman
20 May 1880
Millbrook, Michigan, USA
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18 Apr 1952
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managed by Michael Tryon / last edited 27 Mar 2021
Frank Vroman
20 Mar 1862
Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
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24 Feb 1928
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managed by David Poppie / last edited 16 Feb 2021
Carolyn (Vroman) Deatrick
09 Mar 1899
Fort Wayne, Allen, Indiana, United States
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12 Dec 1995
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managed by David Poppie / last edited 16 Feb 2021
Susan Vroman
managed by Susan Vroman / last edited 10 Dec 2020
William Vroman
14 Oct 1820
New York, United States
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28 Jun 1904
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managed by Cynthia Duhamel / last edited 7 Dec 2020
William Henry Vroman
29 Jul 1870
Oconomowoc, Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States
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12 Sep 1949
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last edited 12 Nov 2020
Otto Bluford Vroman
23 Jun 1888
Chillicothe, Livingston, Missouri, United States
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06 Mar 1973
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last edited 12 Nov 2020
Archie James Vroman
17 Nov 1885
Avalon, Livingston, Missouri, United States
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20 Jul 1975
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last edited 12 Nov 2020
James Myers Vroman
28 Jul 1848
Bradford, Pennsylvania, United States
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05 Mar 1924
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last edited 12 Nov 2020
Catharine Sarah Vroman
13 Mar 1810
Montgomery County, New York
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26 May 1877
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managed by Bob Symons / last edited 1 Oct 2020
Leah J. (Vroman) Gove
Jul 1868
Walworth, Walworth, Wisconsin
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aft 1940
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managed by David Jenkins / last edited 23 Aug 2020
Ana D. Vroman
1970s
managed by Ana Vroman / last edited 8 May 2020
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Jacob Vroman
1775
New York
/
managed by Loren Fay / last edited 24 Apr 2020
Hendrik Janse (Vroman) Vrooman
abt 09 Sep 1690
Schenectady, Albany County, New York
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managed by New Netherland Settlers WikiTree / last edited 8 Apr 2020
Mary Eve (Vroman) Rowley
28 Jun 1836
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30 Sep 1925
Gaines, Orleans, New York, United States /
managed by Judy Bramlage / last edited 13 Jan 2020
Helen Mae (Vroman) Prangen
abt 21 Mar 1919
Minnesota, United States
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23 Jan 1991
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managed by CJ Fulton / last edited 11 Oct 2019
Ray Vroman
01 Oct 1883
Byron, Olmsted, Minnesota, United States
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05 Apr 1954
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managed by CJ Fulton / last edited 10 Oct 2019
Maria (Vroman) Vrooman
19 Jun 1809
Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, United States
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22 Mar 1890
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managed by Scott Carles / last edited 28 Jul 2019
Jacob (Vroman) Vrooman
27 Nov 1808
Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, United States
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abt 29 Jun 1892
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managed by Scott Carles / last edited 28 Jul 2019
Elizabeth (Vroman) Smith
10 Aug 1802
New York, United States
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1891
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managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 6 Apr 2019
Mariah (Vroman) Fay
21 Aug 1807
New York, United States
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1875
/
managed by Loren Fay / last edited 22 Mar 2019
Crittenden Brennen Vroman
21 Jan 1849
Lee, Illinois, United States
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21 Jul 1939
/
managed by David Vroman / last edited 17 Jan 2019
Vern R. Vroman
1920s
managed by David Vroman / last edited 17 Jan 2019
John Roscoe Vroman
18 May 1883
Nebraska
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managed by David Vroman / last edited 17 Jan 2019
Volkert B Vroman
bef 25 May 1798
Albany, Albany, New York, United States
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01 Jun 1882
/
managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 14 Dec 2018
Harvey Vroman
24 Aug 1887
Randolph, Cedar County, Nebraska, USA
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12 Oct 1972
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 1 Dec 2018
Ilene Mae (Vroman) Rehousky
16 Jul 1924
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington, USA
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04 Aug 2006
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managed by Norm Lindquist / last edited 1 Dec 2018
Eliza Ann Vroman
23 Feb 1822
Fonda, NY
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04 Apr 1890
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managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 16 Nov 2018
Lydia Vroman
22 May 1832
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1917
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managed by Tracy Lawrence / last edited 16 Nov 2018
George Henry (Vroman) Vrooman
29 Feb 1860
Put-in-Bay, Ottawa, Ohio, United States
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13 Jan 1935
/
managed by Cathy Combs / last edited 12 Nov 2018
Charles Franklin Vroman
14 Nov 1935
Middleport, Meigs, Ohio, USA
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23 Aug 2005
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managed by Edward Haynes / last edited 12 Nov 2018
Robert C. Vroman
1880s - 1960s
managed by Cynthia Larson / last edited 9 Nov 2018