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My family tree is at <https://www.swetenham.org/>.
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Born and educated in England. Living in Luxembourg. Worked at the European Court and European Commission and now retired.
Researching the four branches of my family, of which the Swetenham and Fielding/Feilding branches are the most extensive. My working tree is on Ancestry and is quite large.
I have recently started to contribute to WikiTree and am gradually creating a network of profiles. I have taken part in the England Project’s Orphan Trail and I have completed both phases OT-1 and OT-2.
I am working on finding the links between gentry families in Cheshire and Staffordshire whose names appear in the Swetenham family tree or who are connected by blood or marriage.
I have been working for many years on the Swetenhams of India, descendants of three brothers and three sisters who went out to India around 1810-1820 and married and had children. The results of this can be found collected at The Swetenham family of Cloud End, published for the Mussoorie bicentennial celebrations held on 19 May 2023.
Rudyard Kipling opens his short story The Tomb of his Ancestors, published in The Day’s Work (1898), as follows:
Some people will tell you that if there were but a single loaf of bread in all India, it would be divided equally between the Plowdens, the Trevors, the Beadons, and the Rivett-Carnacs. That is only one way of saying that certain families serve India generation after generation, as dolphins follow in line across the open sea.
I decided to do some research to find whether the Swetenhams of India and the families related by marriage could put in a claim for a few crumbs from the loaf. Kipling’s loaf of bread - or a dolphin quest
Another page contains a table setting out the connections of the Governors General and Viceroys of India to Major Swetenham, Bengal Engineers, builder of Cloud End, Mussoorie.
Siegfried of Luxembourg; Founder of Luxembourg; 28th great grandfather The first path with no uncertain link is 8). 30 generations through Eleanor (Fleming) Lowther (abt.1583-1659) at gen. 12
Alfred the Great ; King of Wessex32nd great-grandfather The first path with no uncertain link is 36). 34 generations through Christopher Wandesford (aft.1547-1590) at gen. 13
Frederick Barbarossa; Holy Roman Emperor; 24th great grandfather. The first path with no uncertain link is 2). 26 generations through Margaret (Neville) Huddlestone at gen 16
25 barons are named as sureties in Magna Carta. 24 barons are shown in this list, of whom 18 are direct ancestors of Richard Swetenham (those flagged plus William Lanvallay and William Mowbray) and 5 more are sons of direct ancestors.
The line of descent is either through Wandesford or through Fielding.
On the other side of the table at Runnymede, the preamble to Magna Carta lists 16 "Illustrious Men", barons who were counsellors to King John, including King John's half brother William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury.
This second list shows 14 of these counsellors of King John, of whom 11 of are direct ancestors and 2 are sons of direct ancestors.
The Order of the Garter was founded by King Edward III in 1346. He was Richard Swetenham's 18th great grandfather. He appointed 25 knights to the Order at its foundation. See the list of those with WikiTree profiles. Of those 25, 19 are blood relations of whom 10 are direct ancestors and one possible direct ancestor, 5 are brothers of direct ancestors and 2 are the first cousins of direct ancestors of Richard Swetenham.
For the Swetenhams of Somerford Booths, see in particular:
Earwaker, J. P. 1880. Somerford Booths Township in East Cheshire: past and present. London: Printed for the author, vol. 2 pp. 644 - 649. Chapter Swetenham of Somerford Booths Pedigree (HathiTrust)
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Dear Susie, I am still active in my personal researches - my Ancestry tree now has 48,000 names on it. I fully intend to use this eraser h work to improve existing WikiTree profiles and add new ones. However, it is true that I have not really contributed to the work of the Cheshire and Merseyside Team which I signed up for after completing OT2. I would still be interested in a team activity related to Cheshire gentry.
Any profiles you improve or add to Chesire will contribute to the goals of the team and the Project - even a handful a year helps us! And totally ok for them to be your family. Look forward to seeing you about.
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Thank you. I apologise for not answering your first message. I am still an active member of the England Project, in that I am part-way through OT-2. My current Trailblazer is Julie Laxton.
I am also a member of the Cheshire team. I have not so far contributed directly to Cheshire team activities, but building on the profiles I have worked on for OT-1 and OT-2, I am researching actively on links between Staffordshire gentry families (and as an extension, Cheshire families), and I am thinking of formalising this as a personal project. I have posted a message about this to the Staffordshire team. Some of this work already shows up in profiles which I have created or contributed to.
I have also been doing background research on the profiles created by the late Sir William Arbuthnot 2nd Bt. of Kittybrewster, many of which of course fall within the purview of the Scotland project, but some of which are English which I have come across as part of my work on OT-1 and OT-2.
Thanks Richard! Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I overlooked your message.
Everything you do that improve the profiles of people who lived in Cheshire, or England, contributes to the goals of the Cheshire Team and England Project. I have recently joined the Cheshire Team too and have being doing some research of some Cheshire East families, including some Swettenhams/Swetenhams, so our paths might cross somewhere along the line.
Thanks again for being part of the England Project!
I wrote to you recently as part of the England Project's six-monthly check-in with our project members. I haven't heard back from you. I hope you are well.
If you could please drop me a quick note to confirm whether you are still interested in the project and wish to remain an active member, that would be very helpful.
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I saw your comment on Elizabeth (Oldfield) Sweetenham (abt. 1520 - 1609) I'm sure that the profile manager will be looking at that. For profiles that old it is mandatory to supply hard evidence/sources. Spelling variations are very common to be found. If you happen to have the written document from that time, that would help the profile manager a lot.
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On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
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I wrote to you recently as part of the England Project's six-monthly check-in with our project members. I haven't heard back from you. I hope you are well.
If you could please drop me a quick note to confirm whether you are still interested in the project and wish to remain an active member, that would be very helpful.
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Great to hear from you - thanks for responding :)
Any profiles you improve or add to Chesire will contribute to the goals of the team and the Project - even a handful a year helps us! And totally ok for them to be your family. Look forward to seeing you about.
Best wishes,
Susie
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.
On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.
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Elizabeth, England Project Leader
Thank you. I apologise for not answering your first message. I am still an active member of the England Project, in that I am part-way through OT-2. My current Trailblazer is Julie Laxton.
I am also a member of the Cheshire team. I have not so far contributed directly to Cheshire team activities, but building on the profiles I have worked on for OT-1 and OT-2, I am researching actively on links between Staffordshire gentry families (and as an extension, Cheshire families), and I am thinking of formalising this as a personal project. I have posted a message about this to the Staffordshire team. Some of this work already shows up in profiles which I have created or contributed to.
I have also been doing background research on the profiles created by the late Sir William Arbuthnot 2nd Bt. of Kittybrewster, many of which of course fall within the purview of the Scotland project, but some of which are English which I have come across as part of my work on OT-1 and OT-2.
Best wishes
Richard Swetenham
Everything you do that improve the profiles of people who lived in Cheshire, or England, contributes to the goals of the Cheshire Team and England Project. I have recently joined the Cheshire Team too and have being doing some research of some Cheshire East families, including some Swettenhams/Swetenhams, so our paths might cross somewhere along the line.
Thanks again for being part of the England Project!
Ian
I wrote to you recently as part of the England Project's six-monthly check-in with our project members. I haven't heard back from you. I hope you are well.
If you could please drop me a quick note to confirm whether you are still interested in the project and wish to remain an active member, that would be very helpful.
If we do not hear from you within the next 2 weeks, we will assume you are no longer active in the England Project and remove you from our list of project members. You would be most welcome to re-apply to join the project at a later time by signing-up on the project’s G2G welcome post.
Many thanks!
Ian, England Project Leader
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!
The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.
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Many thanks!
Ian, England Project Leader
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I saw your comment on Elizabeth (Oldfield) Sweetenham (abt. 1520 - 1609) I'm sure that the profile manager will be looking at that. For profiles that old it is mandatory to supply hard evidence/sources. Spelling variations are very common to be found. If you happen to have the written document from that time, that would help the profile manager a lot.
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