Margaret Pultney (abt. 1455)

Descendants

Biography

Name and Birth

Margaret Pultney was born 1455. ^[1]

Marriage

She married Sir Thomas Payne, Knight ^[2] Thomas Payne was born about 1445 in Market Bosworth, Leicestershire, England. ^[1]

Sir Thomas Payne, knight, of Market Bosworth, born about 1400, appears in the Visitation of Suffolk as resident of Leicestershire, England, in Market Bosworth. He used the coat-of-arms mentioned above. He married Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Pultney, Knight, ancestor of William Pultney, Earl of Bath, Premier of England. Children: Robert, William and Edmund." ^[3]

Beginning with the history of the family as presented in the "Visitation," we have first in the list, the name of SIR THOMAS PAYNE, KNIGHT, of Market Bosworth, who married Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Pultney, Knight, the ancestor of William Pultney, Earl of Bath, the celebrated statesman, who acted so important a part, first as Minister of War, and afterwards as Premier of England in the early part of the last century. The dates of Sir Thomas' birth, or death, are neither of them given, but the dates at which his descendants came upon the stage of active life, show that he must have been born in the early part of the fifteenth century. He had three sons: Robert, William, Edmund. ^[2]

Issue

Sir Thomas Payne, Knight, of Market Bosworth, Leistershire, had three sons, Robert, William and Edmnd.

1. Robert. In the "Visitation of Huntingdonshire," an adjoining county, the genealogy of a "Robert Payne" is given, the particulars of which would seem to establish identity with Robert, the son of Thomas, except that his Coat of Arms was not identical. As different sons often did adopt different coats from their father, this fact alone does not disprove the identity. This family was generally settled at St. Neot's, a place but little remote from the place where Edmund's family resided, in and about St. Edmundsbury and Nowton in the County of Suffolk.
2. William. What became of the two elder sons of Sir Thomas is not recorded, which shows conclusively that neither of them removed to Suffolk County, and as no mention is made of them in the "Visitation of Leicestershire," it is equally clear that they did not remain there and have progeny.
3. Edmund. The dates of their births are neither of them given, but the record shows the younger of the three alive in the 32d year of Henry VIII., or A. D. 1540, at which time he had a grandson, then a rich and active man, as will be more apparent in what follows. This fact would seem to establish the birth of Sir Thomas, the great-grandfather of a wealthy business man, according to the usual average of life and birth, at, or nearly as early as, the year 1400.

Just here it may be appropriate to call attention to the peculiar naming of these three sons, as the names used often afford a most important clew to the family genealogy. The frequent recurrence of the names of William and Robert in the line, and the reason of it, have already been spoken of. The name of Edmund thus found in the first family of which we have mention, most naturally carries us back to Edmund, the son of Pagen, whom we have ventured to credit as the elder brother of Hugh, and also the ancestor of the family in question. The proof is not conclusive, but for those days it was a coincidence of no small force as evidence.

1. Edmund Payne born about 1475 in Bosworth, Leicestershire, England. ^[1]

Research Note

Thomas Payne and his wife Margaret Pultney were previously shown as parents to William Payne, born 1340. However, the purported parents were born later -- Thomas in 1435 and Margaret in 1445. This is of course impossible, so they have been de-linked as parent and child.Day-1904 12:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} LeAnn. Blodgett and Watson Families Old File Thomas Payne Updated Feb 121, 2017. Accessed Oct 18, 2018 jhd
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Albert Ware Paine. Paine Genealogy, 1881. Cited July 2019 by LeAnn. Blodgett and Watson Families Old File Thomas Payne Updated Feb 121, 2017. Accessed Oct 18, 2018 jhd
3. ↑

Acknowledgements

• WikiTree profile Pultney-3 created through the import of BDM7-7-11.ged on Jul 8, 2011 by Brian McCullough. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Brian and others.