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Corbet was an important vassal of the first Early of Shrewsbury (Shropshire), Roger de Montgomery. He came to England with him and was established as a baron under him in his new county on the Welsh march. His main base was at Castle Caus. It appears that he had already died before Domesday Book in 1086, and that his barony had already been divided between his two known sons, Roger and Robert. Roger, almost certainly the eldest, was ancestor of the future holder's of the castle's barony.
The only original records which mention Corbet or Corbat (Latin Corbatus) are Domesday Book of 1086 and the Ecclesistical History of the chronicler Orderic Vitalis. In both sources Corbet is mentioned as the father of two of the leading serving the great Norman lord Roger de Montgomery, named Roger and Robert. Only in one of Orderic's comments, Corbet is described as alive - in 1071.[1]
Corbet nobiliis Normannus (which simply means "Corbet the noble Norman" in Latin) is a description first used much later in a modern Visitation of Shropshire. [2] Normannus is therefore not a name, and does not come from a medieval record.
The name is often associated with the French word for a crow, corbeau, as a diminutive. Some genealogists even "correct" the name to modern French![3] This is encouraged by the use of crows in the heraldry of families with this surname, centuries later. However such "canting arms" were often "tongue in cheek" and can not be seen as etymologically serious.
On the other hand, in the French of this period, corbet (various spellings) could mean something curved, In particular this word was often used for billhooks, types of baskets, and the action of bowing. To play at corbete could me "to vomit". The term "courbette" is still used in equestrianism.[4]
Modern scholars believe Corbet came from the area of Boitron (modern postcode 61500) and Essay near Sées, Orne, quite far inland, but near to Roger de Montgomery's centre of power.[5] This is the only proposal mentioned Keats-Rohan.[6] She cites the opinion of L. Musset.[7] As explained in a recent Oxford thesis by James Moore:[8]
He also remarks:
Sées. Avoise and Boitron were certainly in the Séois, but the Corbet family also had property at Crocy, within 17 kilometres of Bailleul and Sai in the Hiémois.
Nevertheless, since at least the 19th century, and for obvious reasons, Corbet is often proposed to have come from the area of Normandy called Pays de Caux on the Normandy coast. The obvious source of this belief is that Corbet's son Roger subsequently named his Shropshire castle Caus.
Five years after the battle, however, Corbet ("Corbatum") and his sons are named by Orderic Vitalis as vassals of Earl Roger de Montgomery in Shropshire -- "Guillelmum cognomento Pantulfum et Picodum atque Corbatum, filiosque eius Rogerium et Rodbertum" [9]
Orderic Vitalis records "Guillelmum cognomento Pantulfum et Picodum atque Corbatum, filiosque eius Rogerium et Rodbertum" as vassals of Roger de Montgommery in Shropshire, dated to [1071] from the context[2765]. [10]
Earl Roger "gave positions of authority in the county to William called Pantulf, Picot, Corbet and his sons Roger and Robert, and other brave and loyal men; and their judgement and courage helped to give him an assured place in the first rank of the nobility". [11]
South of Shrewsbury is the valley of Rea Brook, with yet more hills south of that. In this hill country, commanding routes to and from Wales, Corbet was allotted lands. North of the Severn, in flatter land, Warin or Renaud built a new fortress, L'Oeuvre, at Oswestry. South of the Corbet manors, in the Clun and Onnys valleys, Picot de Sai was established. By the time of the Domesday Survey in 1086 the Corbet estates were divided between Roger, the greater share, and his brother Robert. Their place in the list of the earl's tenants, immediately after the sheriff, "corresponds to the extent of their combined estate and their responsible position on an exposed part of the frontier towards Wales." [12]
The Corbet lands, adjacent to Wales, were of strategic importance. "At about the same time, according to Leland, "William the Conqueror toke counsel of Corbet and Mortimer for strenkethening of his Marches aboute the Quarters of Shropshire agayn the Watchmen." [13]
Roger Fitz Corbet was son of the Norman Corbet who came to Shropshire from the Pays de Caux in Normandy. [14]
"It is certain that Corbet came, with his second and fourth sons, Roger and Robert, to the invasion of England by Duke William of Normandy. Besides the two sons, who settled in Shropshire, the eldest and third sons, Hugh and Renaud, stayed behind. Hugh Corbet, like his father, a knight, is mentioned in some charters of the abbey of Bec, in Normandy." [15]
Hugh Corbet was a benefactor to the Abbey of Bec. [16] But what connection if any did Hugh have to Corbet?
He clearly died beteen 1071, which is the only record of him living, and 1086, when his sons had taken over.
Credible authorities give Corbet le Normannus two or four sons. On the average, an equal number of daughters are born. If Corbet married in 1041, his children would have been born every two years; sons born every four, 1042, 1046, 1050, and 1054. If this estimation is used, Corbet's sons would have been aged 12 through 24 at the time of the Conquest in 1066, and probably only the older sons would have been present -- if any were present at all.
Because the sons were still living well into the 1100's, estimating their ages together tends to place them as children at the time of the Battle of Hastings, and to place their arrival in England later.
Two Sons Accounts: Orderic Vitalis
Orderic Vitalis names two sons. [17] All sources agree that Corbet the Norman had two sons, Roger and Robert. " Corbet & his wife had two children. [10] The Visitation of Shropshire identifies two sons of Corbet nobilis Normannus, Robertus and Roger. [2].
Four Sons Accounts
Hofeman names four sons: Hugh, Roger, Rogert and Renaud. [22] Corbet's Pedigree of the Barons of Caus shows Hugo le Corbeau or le Corbet (Chevalier) 1040-1076 [20] with four children: Hugo, Roger Fitz-Corbet, Renaud, and Robert Fitz-Corbet. Some sources say that he had four sons, in order, Hugh, Roger, Renaud and Robert. No sources mention any daughters.[16] Boyer shows four children, Hugo, Roger, Renaud and Robert. [18]
Daughter Petronella
Some popular genealogies also show a daughter, Petronell, born, say, 1055, wife of John Burnel. No trustworthy sources have been found for such a daughter, and she has been de-linked.
It is true that the Burnel family lived close by and gave their name to the manor of Acton Burnel. At Domsday in 1086, Acton was held by Roger FitzCorbet. A credble theory is that the land passed from one family to the other by marriage. The name Petronella subsequently appears in both Corbet and Burnel families. But the actual connection between the families remains elusive.
Corbet's name is never recorded as Hugh, and there is no record of him or his sons being at the battle of Hastings.[23] There are however old works which make these claims. Apparently these derive simply from a record of a Hugh Corbet in the Abbey of Bec in Normandy.
John Burke [21] names Le Carpentier, in his Histoire du Cambray, as his source. Le Carpentier wrote about Corbets from the Cambrai region, and only makes a passing reference to a member of the family named Robert who he says fought in Hastings. He starts the family with a "Corbet".[24]
A. E. Corbet, citing the Battle rolls as reported by Leland, Holinshed, and Stowe, also referred to him as Hugh Corbet. [25]
A. E. Corbet also states that all copies of the Battle Abbey Roll, from Leland, who made the first copy, onwards, include Hugo le Corbet among those who came with William the Conqueror, probably under the command of comte Roger de Montgomery [18]
In the 19th century, Blakeway already questioned the naming of the father as Hugh, c. 1040 in Normandy, and the use of Corbet as a surname at so early a date. Surviving documents refer to Corbet and to Roger and Robert as sons of Corbet. [15]
Curt Hofemann also asserted that whether or not any members of the Corbet family fought with William at Hastings cannot be determined with any certainty. [22]
David Douglas notes that none of the contemporary accounts of the battle make mention of any Corbets. Even so, the Corbets may have been at the battle, for while the battle involved thousands of men, fewer than thirty-five families can claim with certainty to have been "companions of the Conqueror" [23]
In legend a Norman ancestor was a standard-bearer to Rollo, a Viking and the first Duke of Normandy, whose emblem was the raven, or crow. Curt Hofemann reports that "The earliest reference to this legend that I have found is contained in Jean le Carpentier [26] The legend is repeated as fact in A. E. Corbet, [27] Regrettably, this legend cannot be proved. [28]
[Appears to be a full copy of the Antiquary's report on Pelham's reading? Proposal: delete.]
Morton Corbet belonged to a great Saxon landowner at the time of the Conquest. [16]
By the marriage of Sir Richard Corbet, of Wattlesborough, with Joanna Turet, the heiress of Bartholomew Turet, the great Saxon squire in question, it passed into the family of the Shropshire Corbets, and has remained in their possession ever since. [16]
The present Sir Vincent Corbet, Bart., of Acton Reynald, is the twenty-fourth in direct succession from Robert, the son of Hugh Corbet, who came over from Normandy with William the Conqueror.[16]
It is thought that possibly an ancestor may have been standard-bearer to Rollo, and have derived his name from the raven, Rollo's emblem, which he carried. [16]
Whether this were so or no, Corbet gave his name to the Pays de Caux, a tract of country between Rouen and Havre, which had Candebee for its capital. If one happens to go up the Seine from Havre to Rouen, one is struck with the picturesque appearance of Candebee. This was the home of the Shropshire Corbets, and they were great people in those days. [16]
"The Corbet" (his Christian name seems to have been Hugh) had four sons, Hugh, Roger, Renand, and Robert. Hugh and Renaud remained in France, while Roger and Robert went with their father to the battle of Hastings. [16]
Hugh was a knight and a benefactor to the Abbey of Bee. [16]
Renaud was kindled with the enthusiasm of the age, and went off to Palestine in 1096, with his two sons, Robert and Guy. [16]
Robert held fifteen manors in Shropshire, under Earl Roger de Montgomery, chiefly lying about the Stiperstones and the Longmynd. His line expired with his son, Robert Corbet, Lord of Alcester, who left no issue. [16]
Robert Corbet, at Domesday, held under the Earl twenty manors in this county, including chiefly the parishes of Alberbury, Pontesbury, Westbury, Cardeston, and Worthen, including Bausley and Loton, still held by the Leightons, his descendants. His son William is stated to have made Wattlesborough his residence, and no doubt dwelt in that ancient castle. [16]
William had three sons—Thomas Corbet of Wattlesborough (the pilgrim), Robert of Caus, and Philip. [16]
As a rule, the Shropshire Corbets at this time had their hands quite full in keeping the border in these troublous limes against the Welsh. [16]
Thomas, however, bitten with the enthusiasm of the age, and possibly with the love of travel also, left his lands in charge of his brother, Robert of Caus, and went off beyond the sea on pilgrimage to the Holy Land. No doubt he met his cousins there from St. Pol, and for some reason or other stayed away some four or five years. [16]
It is said that his brother, despairing of his return and of his having an heir, was celebrating his own wedding, when Thomas appeared with his palm, and revealed himself as the long-lost brother. Thomas, however, had not been to the Holy Land for nothing, and when the bridegroom would have surrendered the estates, he declined the offer, and desired only a small portion of the land, which he accordingly received. [16]
The descendants of Robert were barons of the realm, Lords Corbet of Caus. Thomas, the elder, contented himself with Wattlesborough. [16]
Thomas the pilgrim's son, Roger, was father of Sir Richard Corbet, who married Joanna Turet, the heiress of Moreton Corbet. The Wattlesborough Corbels seem shortly to have deserted that less genial spot, and to have made Moreton their chief residence. [16]
Robert Corbet, of Moreton Corbel, grandson of Sir Richard, was Sheriff In 1288, in the reign of Edward I. [16]
In 1419, in the reign of Henry V., Robert Corbet, of Moreton Corbet, fourth in descent from the said Robert, was Sheriff. He married Margaret, the daughter of Sir William Mallory. He was tenth in descent from Roger, son of Corbet, who came over with the Conqueror, and the present Sir Vincent is fourteenth in descent from him. [16]
In 1304, Robert Corbet II., born December 25, 1304, whose life was nearly co-extensive with the long reign of Edward III., purchased Shawbury from Giles de Erdington about 1359. Shawbury was the mother church of Moreton Corbet, and the chapel of Moreton was consecrated by Bishop Clinton, the founder of Buildwas Abbey, about 1140. Bishop Clinton, too, went off to the Crusades, and died fighting in the Holy Land. The Abbot and Convent of Haughmond appointed both to Shawbury and Moreton, which is uniformly styled a vicarage. [16]
In the Corbet aisle in Moreton Corbet Church there are two altar tombs, with recumbent figures, in good preservation. They commemorate (i) Sir Robert Corbet and Elizabeth his wife, and their eighteen children; some appear to have died in infancy, and some were blind. The other tomb commemorates Sir Richard Corbet, and Margaret his wife, formerly wife of Sir Thomas Wortley, of Wortley, in the county of York, and daughter of Sir John Saville, of Thornhill, in the county of York. The said Sir Richard died July 16th, 1566. Robert Corbet, son of Sir Andrew, must have been a remarkable man. He had been a great traveller in his early days, and he is said to have brought from Italy the designs for the splendid mansion the dilapidated remains of which are to be seen at Moreton Corbel. He did not live to finish the house, dying in 1783.[16]
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To play at corbete could me "to vomit".
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To play at corbete could be "to vomit".
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