John (Braose) de Brewes (abt. 1197 - bef. 1232)

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Died before 16 Jul 1232 before about age 35 in Bramber, Sussex, England

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Biography

John de Brewes "(or Breuse, Brause, etc.), lord of Gower, Bramber, Findon, and Washington, Sussex, Buckingham and Bourton, Buckinghamshire, etc."^[1]

John was born about 1197^[2] to William de Briouse^[3] and Maud de Clare, daughter of Richard de Clare, Knt., Earl of Hertford, and his wife Amice of Gloucester.^[4]

John's father and grandmother (William's mother, Maud St Valéry) were imprisoned in the dungeons of Windsor Castle where they died in 1210, starved to death by order of King John.^[5] In January 1218, John was released from captivity with his three brothers,^[4] "due to the influence of their uncle, Gilbert de Clare".

In 1219, John married "Margaret of Wales", daughter of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales.^[2]

John and Margaret ferch Llywelyn had four sons:

• William de Brewes, Knt., 1st Lord Brewes,^[2] married (1) Aline de Multon, (2) Agnes de Moels, (3) Mary de Roos^[4]
• Richard de Brewes, Knt.,^[2] married Alice le Rus^[4]
• Llewelyn de Brewes^[2][6]
• John de Brewes,^[2][6] married Margery _____^[4]

John had an eventful life. Richardson describes it:

Sometime before the end of 1220, he was probably placed in possession of the lordship of Gower. He subsequently repaired the castle of Swansea, by leave and counsel of his father-in-law, Prince Llywelyn. About 1220 he recovered the estates of his grandfather, William de Brewes, Sr., from his uncles, Reynold and Giles, including the barony of Bramber, Sussex, half the barony of Totnes, Devon, and the manor of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, but the Welsh lands remained with his uncle Reynold. He fought in France in 1230. About the year 1230, he confirmed the gifts of his predecessors to Sele Priory, and made additional grants, including the bridges of Bramber, five salt pits and five houses in New Shoreham. He also made a small grant of land at Gelli-wann and Gelli-drum to the canons of Talley Abbey, Carmarthenshire.^[2]

John died shortly before 16 July 1232, having been thrown from his horse on his land in Bramber, Sussex, England.^[2] His widow Margaret married (2) Walter de Clifford, Knt., before 2 November 1234 and had a daughter, Maud.^[1]

Research Notes

The profiles for both of John's parents (William de Braose and Maud de Clare) include lengthy discussions of uncertainty, including Cawley's noting that while primary sources show William's wife was Matilda (Maud^[7]), only secondary sources suggest she was Richard de Clare's daughter.^[8] However, a discussion in soc.gen.medieval shares that "Dugdale's Baronage cites Pat Roll 17 John m 23 as giving this William de Braose as married to a younger daughter of Richard, Earl of Clare. This is Richard, earl of Hertford, b c1153. Her mother was Amicia, Countess of Gloucester."^[9]

Richardson's entry in his 2013 Royal Ancestry for Maud de Clare includes the following information, which would appear to be conclusive circumstantial evidence in support of Maud de Clare as William's wife/John's mother:

"His [William's] wife, Maud, escaped when her husband was captured. She was imprisoned in Corfu Castle, and was restored to her father 28 July 1213. In June 1215 custody of the town of Buckingham, Buckinghamshire was granted to Maud's father, Earl Richard de Clare. In 1217 she had letters of conduct to come to England. In 1219 Maud sued her brother-in-law, Reynold de Brewes, for dower in the manors of Shoreham, Bramber, Beeding, Styning, Findon, Knepp (in Shipley), Horsham, Warnham, and Washington, Sussex."^[10]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), volume I, pages 316-318 BREWES 3.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), volume I, pages 530-2 BREWES 7.
3. ↑ Charles Cawley. Entry for John de Briouse (accessed 18 December 2019).
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4} Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, I:313-325 BREWES.
5. ↑ Richardson, Royal Ancestry, I:527-535 BREWES.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} Cawley's entry for John lists only two children for him and his wife, "Margaret of Wales": William and Richard (born before 1232).
7. ↑ In this SGM discussion, Richardson states "Matilda is Latin for Maud and should be avoided."
8. ↑ See Matilda de Clare's entry in Cawley's database.
9. ↑ Doug Thompson. SGM post, "Clare & Braose," 8 February 1999 (accessed 18 December 2019).
10. ↑ Richardson, Royal Ancestry, I:527-528 BREWES 6.

Source list:

• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
• Cawley, Charles. Entry for John Briouse, "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.

See also:

• Rees, William. Braose, Dictionary of Welsh Biography.
• Weis, Frederick Lewis. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Lines: 29A-28, 246-30.
• Lewis, Marlyn. Entry for John de Brewes, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins".
• John de Braose. (2014, December 16). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 00:06, December 26, 2014, from John de Braose
• Ancestry.com. UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. (Accessed 25 December 2014) Original data: Find A Grave: Memorial #88902841.
• Curfman, Robert Joseph. "The Yale Dexcent from Braiose and Clare Through Pigott of Buckinghamshire." The American Genealogist 56: 3 (1980) Link at AmericanAncestors ($)

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

John de Braose is the grandson of Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare. He appears is badged trails to Richard de Clare from the following Gateway Ancestors:

• Brent Gateways (Giles, George and Robert Brent): developed in Dec 2019 and badged in May 2020. See the trail HERE.
• Christopher Calthorpe (MCA I:387-392 CALTHORPE): trail badged 18 March 2020 can be seen HERE.
• Elizabeth Covert: developed in 2018 and badged in March 2020. The trail is outlined HERE.
• Edmund Hawes: badged in May 2020. See the trails Magna Carta Trails|HERE.
• Mary Johanna Somerset: badged 22 Sep 2020. See trail HERE.

John (Braose) de Brewes appears in additional trails (not yet badged) to the following Gateways:

• Randolph Gateways (William and Henry) (MCA III:416-422 RANDOLPH): not yet been developed on WikiTree. This trail is detailed HERE.

NOTE: Richardson's FROME chapter in Magna Carta Ancestry (II:235-236) notes additional Gateway Ancestors in this line: Charles Calvert (descendant of Joan Frome), Thomas Owsley and Thomas Yale (descendants of Isabel Frome), and Elizabeth Bosvile (descendant of Lucy de Brewes and Robert Mautravers, also of Maud de Brewes and William de Bykebury - these trails don't exist as of 29 Jan. 2020: neither Maud's son William nor her sister Lucy has a profile.)

See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as "badged trail".