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Maud FitzHarding (Berkeley) Gifford (1160 - 1190)

Maud FitzHarding "Matilda" Gifford formerly Berkeley aka FitzMaurice
Born in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1177 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 30 [location unknown]
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Profile last modified | Created 11 Mar 2011
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.

Biography

Maud Matilda FitzHarding Berkeley
The details recorded for this person follow Smyth, Lives of the Berkeleys.
However, most modern sources (especially see Cawley) consider Smyth to be in error on this point. The daughter of Maurice and Alice de Berkeley is better identified as Maud (Berkeley-363) (or Matilda), who married Elias Giffard (or Gifford) and had a son, Osbert.
The corollary is that there was no daughter of Maurice and Alice who married an Osbert Giffard.
Note also this person is replicated in De_Berkeley-181. Review of the validity of Gifford-187 may be warranted.
This profile was attached as a daughter of Maurice and Alice de Berkeley but has been split from them for the reasons above. It remains in case a future re-creation of this person is proposed. (See also related policy discussion here.)

Burial Place: Brentford Church, Middlesex

Sources

Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands, A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, Medieval Lands 3, ( 2006-2015), http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ .
John Smyth, The Berkeley Manuscripts: The lives of the Berkeleys, Lords of the honour, castle and manor of Berkeley in the county of Gloucester from 1066 to 1618, vol 1, (Gloucester: Printed by John Bellows, 1883), The Internet Archive .

Acknowledgements

  • This person was created through the import of Consolidated Coningsby.GED on 11 March 2011.




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De Berkeley-181 and Berkeley-136 do not represent the same person because: Different generation and place of birth
Berkeley-363 and Berkeley-136 appear to represent the same person because: based on the research done on Berkeley-136, it looks like these two profiles should be merged into the "known" person with research notes to cover the person that never existed.
posted by Robin Lee
I just completed the merge, and only now reading Robin Lee's comment, I'm worried I did it exactly wrong. :( I merged into the lower number, but did not include the connected parents, the death date or the biography from the later duplicate-- thinking them disproven. So sorry! R. Lee, please let me know if/how I can fix this!
posted by Stephanie Ward
Why & How ? The Biography names and profile description are, at best, difficult to reason ( or explain. Father Maurice FitzHarding vs Maurice de Berkeley.

Mother born c. 1130 vs about 1133. (is close OK ?). Husbands Name: Helias vs profile name Elias [ any explanation(s) ] thank you.

posted on Berkeley-363 (merged) by Gregory Wood
De Berkeley-181 and Berkeley-136 are not ready to be merged because: needs furter resaerch as to actual existence of this perrson
posted by Robin Wood C.Eng

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